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RE: [inline-instruction] "Green" helmets?

All helmets and protective equipment are useless and a complete waste of
time.

- IF you never have accidents.



Wearing - or not wearing anything (except perhaps a blindfold!) will not
alter statistics on the NUMBER of accidents.

But it MIGHT reduce the severity of injury in any given accident.



There is only one way to get REAL figures on reduction of injuries.



Get a person to crash without gear.

Get the SAME person to crash in EXACTLY the same way with gear.

Spot the difference.



Everything else is just survey's, probability and analysing it with
statistics. - However given that getting a crash exactly the same is pretty
impossible - we'll carry on with statistics that can be bent and interpreted
every which way .... So we are likely to be reading about this for some time
to come!



As for "greenness"... no idea!

But it's been fun reading the thread! :-)



Tim Wheals.



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Mike if you don't think cycling isn't dangerous without a helmet, see link below. http://www.cdc.gov/od/perfplan/2000/2000xbicycle.htm Walter Johnson Mike van...
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Aug 29, 2006
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Hi Walter, I find it very interesting that the USA has both the highest rate of helmet wearing, and the highest rate of head injury, whilst the Netherlands has...
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Hi Mike, I knew you would get some interesting feed back from the USA about helmets. One thing about the Internet is, something's that might work in one...
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Hi Helen, I don't think that cycling can be considered dangerous, even in the USA. Although more risky than in the UK and the Netherlands, that risk is still ...
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While I certainly can't quantify this, my recollection from visits to the Netherlands is that a great amount of the cycling there is low speed, utility...
Patrick Seltsam
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Whether in the US or some other country, certain things remain constant: 1. In the absence of a requirement, wearing a helmet is a personal choice. 2. That...
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Unfortunately whole population data just doesn't show helmets having any positive effects on serious head injuries in cycling. So relying on a helmet to...
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Patrick, if I recall correctly, there isn't a single helmet manufacturer who designs or certifies their bicycle helmets as suitable for protection against...
Mike van Erp
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My recollection on the disclaimer on helmets is that they are not suitable for use while operating a motor vehicle. I don't ever recall any helmet...
Patrick Seltsam
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All helmets and protective equipment are useless and a complete waste of time. - IF you never have accidents. Wearing - or not wearing anything (except perhaps...
Timsk8
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That is of course, assuming that helmets actually do any protecting. "Might reduce the severity" isn't good enough when the efficacy of helmets is so much in...
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Hi Patrick, I do like your point about where to draw the line, and I respect your position. I certainly agree with you on being anti-compulsion, I think ...
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