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Re: planning for next year.

Doesn't the engine swap have to be of the same make of the engine or
car for SM? BTW: if you decide to get rid of the Fiero and part it out,
I might want the Koni's you have in the back and the new Kunmho's if
you are parting with them :).

--- In indyscca@yahoogroups.com, Harleman Joel <jbhar_us@...> wrote:
>
> I'm seriously thinking about moving to HS with a 2008
> Mini Cooper or putting a 4.9 pushrod Caddy V8 in the
> Fiero and running SM2. I know HS would have more
> people to run against, but with the better power I
> could possably win or trophy at Nationals next year.
> :-)
>
> Joel Harleman
> 1987 Fiero GT
> 13 CSP





Sun Dec 2, 2007 1:38 am

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with all the discussions about changing classes with some tire factors......* Once things are settled, it would be helpful to have drivers DECLARE their class...
Larry R. Metz
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Dec 1, 2007
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the PROSTATE FLYER will be running in CSX ,,, the TCSX car , BE SMART CHECK YOUR PSA , will be brought out if needed "Larry R. Metz" <lrmetz@...>...
larry harts
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Dec 1, 2007
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I'm seriously thinking about moving to HS with a 2008 Mini Cooper or putting a 4.9 pushrod Caddy V8 in the Fiero and running SM2. I know HS would have more ...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
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Doesn't the engine swap have to be of the same make of the engine or car for SM? BTW: if you decide to get rid of the Fiero and part it out, I might want the...
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Dec 2, 2007
1:38 am

The swap has to be an engine from the GM so I have a lot of them to choose from if I understood the rules. I take it that you didn't get your Fiero sold? Joel ...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
1:49 am

It looks like I'll be keeping it to run for the next couple years. Paris wouldn't let me sell it, and she wants to run next year in it so I had to keep it. ......
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Dec 2, 2007
2:30 am

... I don't think that would work for SM2, 16.1.D.1 says... "1. Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged the same as the original...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 2, 2007
5:54 am

Well then I can use ANY Chevy motor because the 2.8 V6 block is a Chevy part. Joel ... Joel Harleman 87 Fiero GT 13 CSP The older I get . . . the faster I used...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
11:39 am

But, it must be "same as the original standard or optional engine for that model". My interpretation is this limits you to only modifications that 'could' have...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 2, 2007
4:25 pm

Not being a pain, but why does it say that an Eagle Talon can use ANY Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine as it's example then?? Joel ... Joel Harleman 87 Fiero GT ...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
4:29 pm

Oh, I don't know then (I didn't read that far :p ). That seems to contradict itself from my reading. Clearly you need a second opinion as I have no clue -...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 2, 2007
4:43 pm

I've always interpreted it the way Jason does. My understanding was that I could put any Subaru Impreza engine into any other Impreza. The word "model" is...
dlbrier
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Dec 2, 2007
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Jason, Here is the ENTIRE rule. 16.1.D.1 "Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged the same as the original standard or optional engine...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
4:19 pm

I have no problem with combining the lower Mod Classes. Warren ... From: Harleman Joel <jbhar_us@...> To: indyscca@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007...
levair@...
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Dec 2, 2007
2:50 am

Sort of responding to several posts here. The engine in a SM or SM2 car does not have to be the same configuration as the original block, so SM/SM2 is way...
Scott Dales
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Dec 2, 2007
5:43 pm

I do understand that ANY Chevy motor would be legal in SM2, but the example used says that since an Eagle Talon came with either a Chrysler or Mitsubishi...
Harleman Joel
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Dec 2, 2007
10:06 pm

I think the important part of the Talon example is that the Talon came with both engines - so that opened the door to both brands. The Talon example only...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 3, 2007
1:06 am

This is where the SM/SM2 rules get fuzzy. There is a list somewhere of the commonly accepted legal swaps. Last time I looked, Buick/Pontiac/Chevy/Cadillac and...
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Dec 3, 2007
9:40 pm

OK, more search results... This one is the exact same scenario - everyone posting in the thread thinks it is legal, but one team that has already done this...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 3, 2007
10:23 pm

The best way to get clarification would be to send an email to the SM advisory board. GM (and Chrysler) gets sort of fuzzy. Scott 90SM ... From: Jason Proksch...
Scott Dales
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Dec 3, 2007
5:16 am

I did a search at sccaforums and found someone from Indy had asked essentially the same question a few years back in regards to SM engine classing. ...
Jason Proksch
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Dec 3, 2007
5:18 pm

I had to laugh out loud when I read this statement: ... The way it read just sounded too funny. Howard is an SCCA employee. His current title is VP,...
burgerc@...
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Dec 4, 2007
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I am not sure who this Clemens Burger guy is, but I saw his car and it had a big wing on it so I figure he is pretty fast... :p As to SM cars not reaching...
Jason Proksch
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