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Could anyone tell me first if Clint Smith is still
with
us and secondly where he can be reached.

Gord Jennings




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Story in today's Johnstown Tribune.....


http://www.tribune-democrat.com/articles/2004/12/03/sports/sports04.txt


A book has just been published having to do with the history of the
Clinton Comets of the old EHL but also has alot of old photos and stats
from the Eastern Hockey League.

Ordering information is included.


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I own and have read this book.

I wish I could say I can give it a glowing review.  Its best redeeming
quality is the pictures.  I got it on Ebay at half of the list price.  I
suggest you look there.

Keith Lenn

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> A book has just been published having to do with the history of the
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> from the Eastern Hockey League.
>
> Ordering information is included.
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Hi all,

I'm close to completing my WHA Indianapolis Racers
CD-ROM book, but have not yet found a 1976/77 team
portrait photo (or a 1977/78 color team portrait).
Does anyone here have any that I could scan or some
already scanned that I could use?

Any and all help is appreciated,

Timothy Gassen
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Have been spending the lockup updating my NHL uniform numbers. And a good thing,
too, as I've found mistakes.

Wonder if anyone has numerical rosters of the Kansas City Scouts teams and the
1981-82 Colorado Rockies.

Thanks,

Mark Estep

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As of November 8, 2004, Clint Smith is very much alive.  I had the pleasure of
meeting Mr. Smith at the HHOF induction ceremony on that date.  He was the
oldest attending member (91?) and is the second oldest living member of the
HHOF.  (I think Red Storey might be the oldest.)

I'm not sure how to reach him.  Perhaps in care of the Hall of Fame?

Al

P.S.  Thanks to the board for the information on the Canadiens v. Johnstown Jets
game.

>     Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 04:51:48 -0800 (PST)
>     From: Gordon Jennings <heljen@...>
> Subject: Clint Smith
>
> Could anyone tell me first if Clint Smith is still
> with
> us and secondly where he can be reached.
>
> Gord Jennings
>

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Hello Mark,

Here is what I Have:

1974-75 Scouts

1   Denis Herron
1   Michel Plasse
2   Jim McElmury
3   Dennis Patterson
4   Bart Crashley
4   Claude Houde
5   Brent Hughes
6   Larry Johnston
6   Larry Giroux
6   Chris Evans
6   Ken Murray
6   Hank Lehvonen
7   John Wright
8   Richard Lemieux
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Guy Charron
10  Ted Snell
11  Dave Hudson
12  Gary Coalter
13  Robin Burns
14  Lynn Powis
15  Glen Burdon
16  Mike Baumgartner
17  Simon Nolet
18  Gary Croteau
19  Doug Horbul
20  Butch Deadmarsh
21  Norm Dube
22  Hugh Harvey
23  Bryan Lefley
24  Ed Gilbert
25  Randy Rota
26  Jean-Guy Lagace
27  Roger Lemelin
28  Doug Buhr
30  Peter McDuffe
??  Mike Boland

1975-76 Scouts

1   Denis Herron
2   Jim McElmury
2   Ken Murray
3   Dennis Patterson
4   Steve Durbano
4   Claude Houde
5   Gary Bergman
6   Larry Johnston
7   Guy Charron
8   Chuck Arnason
8   Hugh Harvey
8   Richard Lemieux
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Guy Charron
10  Chuck Arnason
11  Dave Hudson
13  Robin Burns
14  Craig Patrick
15  Denis Dupere
16  Henry Boucha
16  Germain Gagnon
17  Simon Nolet
18  Gary Croteau
20  Don Cairns
21  Phil Roberto
21  Norm Dube
22  Fred "Buster" Harvey
24  Ed Gilbert
25  Randy Rota
26  Jean-Guy Lagace
27  Roger Lemelin
28  Terry McDonald
29  Bill Oleschuk
30  Bill McKenzie

1976-77 Colorado Rockies

1   Bill McKenzie
2   Bryan Lefley
3   Tom Edur
4   Larry Johnston
4   Steve Durbano
5   Tracy Pratt
6   Colin Campbell
7   Guy Delparte
8   Sean Shanahan
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Chuck Arnason
11  Dave Hudson
12  Nelson Pyatt
14  Ron Andruff
15  Denis Dupere
16  Danny Gruen
16  Henry Boucha
17  Simon Nolet
18  Gary Croteau
19  John VanBoxmeer
20  Larry Skinner
21  Paul Gardner
22  Barry Dean
23  Roger Lemelin
24  Jim McElmury
25  Randy Rota
26  Mike Kitchen
27  Ron Delorme
27  Phil Roberto
28  Don Cairns
31  Michel Plasse
33  Doug Favell

1977-78 Colorado Rockies

2   Bryan Lefley
3   Tom Edur
3   Mike Christie
3   Dennis O'Brien
4   John VanBoxmeer
5   Barry Beck
6   Mark Suzor
7   Randy Pierce
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Ralph Klassen
10  Chuck Arnason
10  Fred Ahern
11  Dave Hudson
12  Nelson Pyatt
14  Ron Andruff
15  Denis Dupere
16  Joe Contini
17  Lou Nistico
18  Gary Croteau
19  Bob Neely
19  Rick Jodzio
19  John McCahill
20  Larry Skinner
21  Paul Gardner
22  Andy Spruce
23  Roger Lemelin
24  Fred Ahern
24  Jim McElmury
24  Ralph Klassen
25  Dennis Owchar
26  Mike Kitchen
27  Ron Delorme
29  Bill McKenzie
30  Bill Oleschuk
31  Michel Plasse
33  Doug Favell

1978-79 Colorado Rockies

1   Doug Favell
2   Nick Beverly
2   Joe Watson
3   Mike Christie
4   John Van Boxmeer
5   Barry Beck
6   Michel LaChance
7   Randy Pierce
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Ralph Klassen
11  Bill Lochead
11  Don Saleski
12  Don Ashby
12  Nelson Pyatt
14  Mike Gillis
14  Ron Andruff
15  Jack Valiquette
16  Joe Contini
17  Rey Comeau
18  Gary Croteau
19  Don Awrey
19  Mike Dwyer
20  Larry Skinner
21  Paul Gardner
22  Andy Spruce
23  Merlin Malinowski
24  Clayton Pachal
24  Trevor Johansen
25  Dennis Owchar
26  Mike Kitchen
27  Ron Delorme
28  Paul messier
28  Kevin Krook
30  Bill Oleschuk
31  Michel Plasse

1979-80 Colorado Rockies

1   Hardy Astrom
2   Nick Beverly
3   Mike Christie
4   Mike McEwen
5   Kevin Morrison
5   Barry Beck
5   Dean Turner
6   Rob Ramage
7   Randy Pierce
8   Doug Berry
9   Lanny McDonald
9   Wilf Paiement
10  Mario Giallonardo
10  Peter Sturgeon
11  Don Saleski
11  Bobby Schmautz
12  Walt McKechnie
12  Don Ashby
12  Steve Peters
14  Rene Robert
15  Jack Valiquette
16  Pat Hickey
16  Merlin Malinowski
16  John Flesch
17  Barry Smith
18  Gary Croteau
19  Nelson Pyatt
19  Mike Dwyer
20  Mike Gillis
20  Larry Skinner
22  Joel Quenneville
23  Lucien Deblois
24  Trevor Johansen
25  Bobby Sheehan
25  Rey Comeau
25  Dennis Owchar
26  Mike Kitchen
27  Ron Delorme
28  Bob Attwell
29  Dave Watson
29  Bill McKenzie
30  Bill Oleschuk
31  Michel Plasse

1980-81 Colorado Rockies

1   Hardy Astrom
1   Glen "Chico" Resch
2   Jack Hughes
3   Craig Norwich
3   Mario Giallonardo
3   Mike Christie
4   Mike McEwen
4   Bill baker
5   Rob Ramage
6   Les Auge
6   Terry Harper
6   Dean Turner
7   Randy Pierce
8   Doug Berry
9   Lanny McDonald
10  Bobby Sheehan
10  Gary Dillon
10  Aaron Broten
11  Walt McKechnie
12  Ed Cooper
14  Rene Robert
14  Steve Tambellini
15  Jack Valliquette
16  Merlin Malinowski
17  Paul Gagne
18  Bob Miller
19  Peter Sturgeon
19  Joe Ward
20  Mike Gillis
21  Barry Smith
22  Joel Quenneville
23  Lucien Deblois
24  Trevor Johansen
25  Bob Crawford
26  Mike Kitchen
27  Ron Delorme
28  Bob Attwell
29  Yvon Vautour
29  Dave Watson
31  Al Smith
35  Jari Kaarela

1981-82 Colorado Rockies

1   Glen "Chico" Resch
2   Joe Cirella
2   John Hughes
3   Graeme Nicolson
4   Bob Lorimer
5   Rob Ramage
6   Joe Micheletti
6   Bill Baker
7   Stan Weir
7   Randy Pierce
8   Tapio Levo
9   Don Lever
9   Lanny McDonald
10  Dave Cameron
11  Bob MacMillan
11  Rich Chernomaz
12  Jukka Porvari
12  Ed Cooper
14  Steve Tambellini
15  Brent Ashton
16  Merlin Malinowski
17  Paul Gagne
18  Bob Miller
19  Yvon Vautour
20  Dwight Foster
21  Kevin Maxwell
21  Peter Gustavsson
22  Joel Quenneville
23  Christer Kellgren
23  Jim Dobson
24  Aaron Broten
25  Jeff Larmer
26  Mike Kitchen
27  John Wensink
29  Rick LaFerriere
30  Phil Myre
31  Veli-Pekka Ketola
31  Steve Janaszak


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> From: pjscrew@...
> Reply-To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:36:00 +0000
> To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [hockhist] scouts & rockies
>
>
> Have been spending the lockup updating my NHL uniform numbers. And a good
> thing, too, as I've found mistakes.
>
> Wonder if anyone has numerical rosters of the Kansas City Scouts teams and the
> 1981-82 Colorado Rockies.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark Estep
>

Question for rule book experts:

Tonight's AHl game St. John's Make-Believes vs. Binghamton Senators,
Binghamton's goalie Thompson got a minor penalty at 6:06, then another one at
7:57. So he got a penalty while his first one was still going. Weird... is this
how it is supposed to work?

Not to mention, the first penalty at 6:06 was for leaving the Crease, both
goalies got it. They were at the respective bluelines pasing the puck back and
forth while the refs figured out the penalty calls from an old time 5 ring
circus of brawls. Seems kind of stupid to me... us old goalies used to do that
to generate some movement, keep moving instead of standing still in our crease
for 10 minutes. Ref should have used his judegement on that one.

Big crowd, AHL record in Canada, 17,442.

Thanks in advance,
Dave in Whitby



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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:12:09 -0500, goaliedave <goaliedave@...> wrote:
>
> Question for rule book experts:
>
> Tonight's AHl game St. John's Make-Believes vs. Binghamton Senators,
Binghamton's goalie Thompson got a minor penalty at 6:06, then another one at
7:57. So he got a penalty while his first one was still going. Weird... is this
how it is supposed to work?

Goaltenders don't have to serve their own minor penalties, so they are
free to incur them any time they please. Players from other positions
obviously don't have this luxury.

I'm guessing this is what you were getting at!

--
Mike
Victoria, BC

Looking at these rosters I almost began thinking right away "Stanley Cup." Or
was it suicide........

Craig


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   From: jason kasiorek
   To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:59 PM
   Subject: Re: [hockhist] scouts & rockies


   Hello Mark,

   Here is what I Have:

   1974-75 Scouts

   1   Denis Herron
   1   Michel Plasse
   2   Jim McElmury
   3   Dennis Patterson
   4   Bart Crashley
   4   Claude Houde
   5   Brent Hughes
   6   Larry Johnston
   6   Larry Giroux
   6   Chris Evans
   6   Ken Murray
   6   Hank Lehvonen
   7   John Wright
   8   Richard Lemieux
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Guy Charron
   10  Ted Snell
   11  Dave Hudson
   12  Gary Coalter
   13  Robin Burns
   14  Lynn Powis
   15  Glen Burdon
   16  Mike Baumgartner
   17  Simon Nolet
   18  Gary Croteau
   19  Doug Horbul
   20  Butch Deadmarsh
   21  Norm Dube
   22  Hugh Harvey
   23  Bryan Lefley
   24  Ed Gilbert
   25  Randy Rota
   26  Jean-Guy Lagace
   27  Roger Lemelin
   28  Doug Buhr
   30  Peter McDuffe
   ??  Mike Boland

   1975-76 Scouts

   1   Denis Herron
   2   Jim McElmury
   2   Ken Murray
   3   Dennis Patterson
   4   Steve Durbano
   4   Claude Houde
   5   Gary Bergman
   6   Larry Johnston
   7   Guy Charron
   8   Chuck Arnason
   8   Hugh Harvey
   8   Richard Lemieux
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Guy Charron
   10  Chuck Arnason
   11  Dave Hudson
   13  Robin Burns
   14  Craig Patrick
   15  Denis Dupere
   16  Henry Boucha
   16  Germain Gagnon
   17  Simon Nolet
   18  Gary Croteau
   20  Don Cairns
   21  Phil Roberto
   21  Norm Dube
   22  Fred "Buster" Harvey
   24  Ed Gilbert
   25  Randy Rota
   26  Jean-Guy Lagace
   27  Roger Lemelin
   28  Terry McDonald
   29  Bill Oleschuk
   30  Bill McKenzie

   1976-77 Colorado Rockies

   1   Bill McKenzie
   2   Bryan Lefley
   3   Tom Edur
   4   Larry Johnston
   4   Steve Durbano
   5   Tracy Pratt
   6   Colin Campbell
   7   Guy Delparte
   8   Sean Shanahan
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Chuck Arnason
   11  Dave Hudson
   12  Nelson Pyatt
   14  Ron Andruff
   15  Denis Dupere
   16  Danny Gruen
   16  Henry Boucha
   17  Simon Nolet
   18  Gary Croteau
   19  John VanBoxmeer
   20  Larry Skinner
   21  Paul Gardner
   22  Barry Dean
   23  Roger Lemelin
   24  Jim McElmury
   25  Randy Rota
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  Ron Delorme
   27  Phil Roberto
   28  Don Cairns
   31  Michel Plasse
   33  Doug Favell

   1977-78 Colorado Rockies

   2   Bryan Lefley
   3   Tom Edur
   3   Mike Christie
   3   Dennis O'Brien
   4   John VanBoxmeer
   5   Barry Beck
   6   Mark Suzor
   7   Randy Pierce
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Ralph Klassen
   10  Chuck Arnason
   10  Fred Ahern
   11  Dave Hudson
   12  Nelson Pyatt
   14  Ron Andruff
   15  Denis Dupere
   16  Joe Contini
   17  Lou Nistico
   18  Gary Croteau
   19  Bob Neely
   19  Rick Jodzio
   19  John McCahill
   20  Larry Skinner
   21  Paul Gardner
   22  Andy Spruce
   23  Roger Lemelin
   24  Fred Ahern
   24  Jim McElmury
   24  Ralph Klassen
   25  Dennis Owchar
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  Ron Delorme
   29  Bill McKenzie
   30  Bill Oleschuk
   31  Michel Plasse
   33  Doug Favell

   1978-79 Colorado Rockies

   1   Doug Favell
   2   Nick Beverly
   2   Joe Watson
   3   Mike Christie
   4   John Van Boxmeer
   5   Barry Beck
   6   Michel LaChance
   7   Randy Pierce
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Ralph Klassen
   11  Bill Lochead
   11  Don Saleski
   12  Don Ashby
   12  Nelson Pyatt
   14  Mike Gillis
   14  Ron Andruff
   15  Jack Valiquette
   16  Joe Contini
   17  Rey Comeau
   18  Gary Croteau
   19  Don Awrey
   19  Mike Dwyer
   20  Larry Skinner
   21  Paul Gardner
   22  Andy Spruce
   23  Merlin Malinowski
   24  Clayton Pachal
   24  Trevor Johansen
   25  Dennis Owchar
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  Ron Delorme
   28  Paul messier
   28  Kevin Krook
   30  Bill Oleschuk
   31  Michel Plasse

   1979-80 Colorado Rockies

   1   Hardy Astrom
   2   Nick Beverly
   3   Mike Christie
   4   Mike McEwen
   5   Kevin Morrison
   5   Barry Beck
   5   Dean Turner
   6   Rob Ramage
   7   Randy Pierce
   8   Doug Berry
   9   Lanny McDonald
   9   Wilf Paiement
   10  Mario Giallonardo
   10  Peter Sturgeon
   11  Don Saleski
   11  Bobby Schmautz
   12  Walt McKechnie
   12  Don Ashby
   12  Steve Peters
   14  Rene Robert
   15  Jack Valiquette
   16  Pat Hickey
   16  Merlin Malinowski
   16  John Flesch
   17  Barry Smith
   18  Gary Croteau
   19  Nelson Pyatt
   19  Mike Dwyer
   20  Mike Gillis
   20  Larry Skinner
   22  Joel Quenneville
   23  Lucien Deblois
   24  Trevor Johansen
   25  Bobby Sheehan
   25  Rey Comeau
   25  Dennis Owchar
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  Ron Delorme
   28  Bob Attwell
   29  Dave Watson
   29  Bill McKenzie
   30  Bill Oleschuk
   31  Michel Plasse

   1980-81 Colorado Rockies

   1   Hardy Astrom
   1   Glen "Chico" Resch
   2   Jack Hughes
   3   Craig Norwich
   3   Mario Giallonardo
   3   Mike Christie
   4   Mike McEwen
   4   Bill baker
   5   Rob Ramage
   6   Les Auge
   6   Terry Harper
   6   Dean Turner
   7   Randy Pierce
   8   Doug Berry
   9   Lanny McDonald
   10  Bobby Sheehan
   10  Gary Dillon
   10  Aaron Broten
   11  Walt McKechnie
   12  Ed Cooper
   14  Rene Robert
   14  Steve Tambellini
   15  Jack Valliquette
   16  Merlin Malinowski
   17  Paul Gagne
   18  Bob Miller
   19  Peter Sturgeon
   19  Joe Ward
   20  Mike Gillis
   21  Barry Smith
   22  Joel Quenneville
   23  Lucien Deblois
   24  Trevor Johansen
   25  Bob Crawford
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  Ron Delorme
   28  Bob Attwell
   29  Yvon Vautour
   29  Dave Watson
   31  Al Smith
   35  Jari Kaarela

   1981-82 Colorado Rockies

   1   Glen "Chico" Resch
   2   Joe Cirella
   2   John Hughes
   3   Graeme Nicolson
   4   Bob Lorimer
   5   Rob Ramage
   6   Joe Micheletti
   6   Bill Baker
   7   Stan Weir
   7   Randy Pierce
   8   Tapio Levo
   9   Don Lever
   9   Lanny McDonald
   10  Dave Cameron
   11  Bob MacMillan
   11  Rich Chernomaz
   12  Jukka Porvari
   12  Ed Cooper
   14  Steve Tambellini
   15  Brent Ashton
   16  Merlin Malinowski
   17  Paul Gagne
   18  Bob Miller
   19  Yvon Vautour
   20  Dwight Foster
   21  Kevin Maxwell
   21  Peter Gustavsson
   22  Joel Quenneville
   23  Christer Kellgren
   23  Jim Dobson
   24  Aaron Broten
   25  Jeff Larmer
   26  Mike Kitchen
   27  John Wensink
   29  Rick LaFerriere
   30  Phil Myre
   31  Veli-Pekka Ketola
   31  Steve Janaszak


   --
   Jason Kasiorek
   Home of the Oilers
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   > From: pjscrew@...
   > Reply-To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
   > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:36:00 +0000
   > To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
   > Subject: [hockhist] scouts & rockies
   >
   >
   > Have been spending the lockup updating my NHL uniform numbers. And a good
   > thing, too, as I've found mistakes.
   >
   > Wonder if anyone has numerical rosters of the Kansas City Scouts teams and
the
   > 1981-82 Colorado Rockies.
   >
   > Thanks,
   >
   > Mark Estep
   >



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I was looking for something else, and found a pre-tournament roster for the
1972 International Series in an old issue of the hockey news. Since I have
seen a few things posted on it recently I decided to post this as well.

Team Canada

1   G   Ed Johnston
29  G   Ken Dryden
30  G   Michel Laroque (Notation, Won't play Against Russia)
35  G   Tony Esposito

2   D   Gary Bergman
3   D   Pat Stapleton
5   D   Brad park
16  D   Rod Seiling
17  D   Bill White
23  D   Serge Savard
25  D   Guy Lapointe
26  D   Don Awrey
37  D   Josh Guevremont
38  D   Brian Glennie
40  D   John Van Boxmeer (Notation, Won't play against Russia)

7   C   Phil Esposito
15  C   Red Berenson
18  C   Jean Ratelle
21  C   Stan Mikita
28  C   Bobby Clarke
33  C   Gilbert Perreault
34  C   Marcel Dionne

6   RW  Ron Ellis
8   RW  Rod Gilbert
9   RW  Bill Goldsworthy
12  RW  Yvan Cournoyer
24  RW  Mickey Redmond
32  RW  Dale Tallon
39  RW  Billy Harris (Notation, Won't play against Russia)

10  LW  Dennis Hull
11  LW  Vic Hadfield
14  LW  Wayne Cashman
19  LW  Paul Henderson
20  LW  Pete mahovlich
22  LW  Jean-Paul parise
27  LW  Frank mahovlich
36  LW  Richard Martin


Team Russia

(Team numbers Unavailable)

G   Vladislav Tretiak
G   Vladimir Shepovalov
G   Aleksandr Sidelnikov

D   Aleksandr Ragulin
D   Vladimir Lutchenko
D   Victor Kuzkin
D   Aleksandr Gusev
D   Gennady Tsigankov
D   Vitally Davidov
D   Yuri Liapkin

F   Viacheslav Starshinov
F   Anatoli Firsov
F   Aleksandr Maltsev
F   Valeri Kharmalov
F   Boris Mikhailov
F   Vladimir Petrov
F   Yuri Blinov
F   Evgevi Zimin
F   Vladimir Shardin
F   Alexandr Yaukshev
F   Evgeni Mishakov
F   Viacheslav Solodukhin
F   Viacheslaw Anisin
F   Aleksandr Bodunov
F   Yuri lebedev
F   Evgeni Poladiev
F   Vladimir Astafiev

Jason Kasiorek
Home of the Oilers
http://members.hockeyresearch.com/jkasiorek/

Hi all,
I had an x-mas outing with the office last night and learned that there
is a fellow you is the big man on the ice with the work league. Anyway,
he claims to have been drafted by the 67s and dislocated his shoulder
after 4 regular season games and that was a career for him.

A quick scan of hockeydb and the sihr db turned up no sign of him. Given
his age, I suspect that would have been around 1996. His name is Steven
Legros.

Any info appreciated.

James Milks
Noncubicle Corporation / LostHockey.com
http://www.noncubicle.com
http://www.losthockey.com

Mike
Victoria, BC wrote:
Goaltenders don't have to serve their own minor penalties, so they are
free to incur them any time they please. Players from other positions
obviously don't have this luxury.
I'm guessing this is what you were getting at!
--

Mike, thanks for the reply... that's part of my question... maybe I'mmaking
too much of it, but it seems a little silly, especially if you take it to
the extreme. Say near the end of the 3rd period a scirmish broke out and
there were enough minors so that (barring St. John's goals being scored)
Binghamton would be shorthanded the remaining whole game. Then, in theory,
the goalie Thompson could slash everyone who came near his crease, take a
penalty every 10 seconds, and nothing would happen to him or his team for
the remainder of the game. He could knock the net off the posts every 10
seconds, get a 2 minute delay of game penalty, and nothing would happen. I'm
guessing though that he'd have to stop when Binghamton got down to its final
3 skaters... what happens if there are only 3 sktaers left and a penalty is
assessed... do they have to put one in the box and go with 2 skaters?

Ah geez, I wish I'd had the chance to discuss this one with Roger Neilson,
he was the master of the absurd...

Dave in Whitby

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:57:42 -0500, goaliedave <goaliedave@...> wrote:
>
> Mike
> Victoria, BC wrote:
> Goaltenders don't have to serve their own minor penalties, so they are
> free to incur them any time they please. Players from other positions
> obviously don't have this luxury.
> I'm guessing this is what you were getting at!
> --
>
> Mike, thanks for the reply... that's part of my question... maybe I'mmaking
> too much of it, but it seems a little silly, especially if you take it to
> the extreme. Say near the end of the 3rd period a scirmish broke out and
> there were enough minors so that (barring St. John's goals being scored)
> Binghamton would be shorthanded the remaining whole game. Then, in theory,
> the goalie Thompson could slash everyone who came near his crease, take a
> penalty every 10 seconds, and nothing would happen to him or his team for
> the remainder of the game. He could knock the net off the posts every 10
> seconds, get a 2 minute delay of game penalty, and nothing would happen. I'm
> guessing though that he'd have to stop when Binghamton got down to its final
> 3 skaters... what happens if there are only 3 sktaers left and a penalty is
> assessed... do they have to put one in the box and go with 2 skaters?
>
> Ah geez, I wish I'd had the chance to discuss this one with Roger Neilson,
> he was the master of the absurd...

I think a sensible referee who was witnessing something as cynical as
you describe would just assess the goaltender a game or gross
misconduct and get them off the ice.

It is correct, though, that goaltenders do not have to serve major.
minor or misconduct penalties, only match, gross and game misconducts.

--
Mike

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Mike... yes, that's true... an unsportsmanlike penalty could be called to
get him out of the game. I guess it doesn't happen very often. Good way to
get rid of the other team's stars though. I might incorporate that stategy
into my peewee girls hockey team ;)

Dave in Whitby

Hi,

I just recently read a story about the 1975 Central Red Army Tour of
Ontario in 1974-75.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a place or
person where I could obtain copies of any or all of the tour games
(and any other Russian/Soviet tours of Ontario).

They played the Hamilton Fincups, London Knights, Sault Ste. Marie
Greyhounds, Toronto Malboros, OHA Sr. All-Stars, Ottawa 67's and the
Kitchener Rangers.

I would also be very interested in any game recaps, stories, info,
pictures, etc from that series.


Thanks for any help with this info in advance.

Not sure if this was already mentioned in the last few weeks as I lost
some mail.  but can anyone tell me what has happened to Just Hockey and
In The Crease?  Are they done?  If so, anyone know what happened?
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mangodance wrote on 12/5/2004, 10:25 PM:

  >
  > Not sure if this was already mentioned in the last few weeks as I lost
  > some mail.  but can anyone tell me what has happened to Just Hockey >

This was posted on several email lists.

Posted by Joe Levandosky in the www.intotheboards.net/forum:

OK....now I know that EVERYONE is confused so I will try to make this as
simple as possible.

As of yesterday (I think), the website In the Crease and the ITC Boards
have closed permanently. While I knew this was going to happen, I was
not prepared for the time-frame my ex-partner had for turning everything
off. He apparently decided to do it over the holiday weekend.

So....that being said, I am currently busy changing this forum system
over to what many of you were used to over at ITC. In addition, there
WILL be a new website to replace the old In the Crease, called
ITCXtreme. Unfortunately, it looks as though it will take me a few more
weeks to get everything together before the new website is ready.

The forums for all intents and purposes are functional. I will be making
a few changes to the team forums that used to be here....meaning I will
only be providing forums for teams where the fans are active. I no
longer see any point in having any inactive forums. I will also be
adding or removing other forums as the days go on.

I was probably as surprised as all of you were when Phil decided to pull
the plug, but hey, life goes on. I already have a new server being
configured and hopefully it will be ready by the end of next week.

Until then, feel free to point your friends to these forums.
(www.intotheboards.net/forums)

I will not change to the new domain until the server is ready.

I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion.

--
Kathy
I heard it through the Ape Vine
http://apevine.net

I know I haven't been able to get on In the Crease since December 2003.

Frank

--- mangodance <bmn@...> wrote:

> Not sure if this was already mentioned in the last few weeks as I lost
> some mail.  but can anyone tell me what has happened to Just Hockey and
> In The Crease?  Are they done?  If so, anyone know what happened?
> --
> <a href="http://mangodance.tripod.com/bgh/bghockey.htm">Bluegrass
> Hockey: Celebrating hockey in the Commonwealth</a>
>
> <a href="http://www.beckett.com/userpages/mangodance.html">Mangodance's
> Minor & European Hockey Trade Page: Traders WANTED!!!</a>
>
>
>

A couple of stories in the Johnstown Tribune this morning about the
Hockey Hall of Fame taking possession of the old EHL Atlantic City
Boardwalk Trophy.



http://www.tribune-democrat.com/articles/2004/12/07/sports/sports02.txt
Hockey surprize--Hall of Fame lets former Jet relive shining moment.


http://www.tribune-democrat.com/articles/2004/12/07/sports/sports03.txt
Trophy took long route to Toronto.


(free registration is need to view articles)




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Why is the Dawson City challenge for the Stanley Cup so much a part
of Stanley Cup lore?  What makes that challenge stand out?  Did it
change hockey?

Joseph

Because they travelled so far and Dawson was a tiny place?

James

-----Original Message-----
From: nieforth [mailto:nieforth@...]
Sent: December 8, 2004 8:06 PM
To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hockhist] Dawson City Questions




Why is the Dawson City challenge for the Stanley Cup so much a part
of Stanley Cup lore?  What makes that challenge stand out?  Did it
change hockey?

Joseph






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>
> Because they travelled so far and Dawson was a tiny place?
>
> James

I think it is almost as simple as that...I read somewhere, maybe in Hockey
Hall of Fame Legends, that the treks gave a type of unity to Canada, linking
a distant Dawson City team, or a team from Nova Scotia, to travel to play
for the Cup.  Reaching all across the nation...

Keith

I think it is also just the colorful concept...this team from the middle
of no where on the frontier actually getting to challenge for the Cup!
And the way they had to travel...practicing in refrigerator cars on
railroads etc...
Did it change hockey? No. I think the romanticism is in just the
opposite, the utter impossibility of such a series in any other era. It
was the games wild formative era. It was something we will never see the
likes of again, and I think that folks even sort of felt that way back
then...it has an almost surreal aspect to it.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Milks [mailto:jamesm@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:16 PM
To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [hockhist] Dawson City Questions


Because they travelled so far and Dawson was a tiny place?

James

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: December 8, 2004 8:06 PM
To: hockhist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hockhist] Dawson City Questions




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of Stanley Cup lore?  What makes that challenge stand out?  Did it
change hockey?

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1971-72 was the year the "GAG" line of Jeane Ratelle, Rod Gilbert, and Vic
Hadfield had such a fine season (as did the team itself.) However late in the
season Ratelle suffered a broken ankle and missed the last part of the regular
season and I believe most of the playoffs. Who replaced Ratelle as the center on
the GAG line while he was hurt?

Craig




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Craig:

Bobby Rousseau


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Speaking of dumb goalie penalties.  My son got called for Delay of
Game for holding a puck when a defender was 12 feet away on a penalty
kill in a PeeWee Tournament game!

Jim Dornberger


--- In hockhist@yahoogroups.com, Michael Poplawski
<michael.poplawski@g...> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 01:12:09 -0500, goaliedave <goaliedave@s...>
wrote:
> >
> > Question for rule book experts:
> >
> > Tonight's AHl game St. John's Make-Believes vs. Binghamton
Senators, Binghamton's goalie Thompson got a minor penalty at 6:06,
then another one at 7:57. So he got a penalty while his first one was
still going. Weird... is this how it is supposed to work?
>
> Goaltenders don't have to serve their own minor penalties, so they
are
> free to incur them any time they please. Players from other
positions
> obviously don't have this luxury.
>
> I'm guessing this is what you were getting at!
>
> --
> Mike
> Victoria, BC