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Re: [hockhist] Re: Plante & Parent 1971

I don't think it was a controversial move at all. The Globe and Mail
didn't mention the change at all.

No knock on Dorey. Here's the defence the Leafs started 1970-71 with:

Dorey, 23 years old, 107 NHL games.
Glennie, 24 years old, 52 games.
Ley, 22 years old, 86 games.
McKenny, 24 years old, 93 games.
Pelyk, 23 years old, 125 games.

There was also Brad Selwood, 22, who had yet to play in the NHL.

That's a decided experience gap. The lone veteran, Horton, had been
traded.

One of the things the Leafs sought from Plante when they acquired him
was to instruct the defence. It's no secret that he had strong ideas
about how he wanted his defencemen to play -- his style was rooted in
his own frustration with a weak defence corps's inability to get the
puck out of the defensive zone. The Star did make a comment about the
Leafs defence trying to "stickhandle" too much in game four, rather
than headmanning the puck.

I don't think it's any surprise that, after acquiring Plante and Baun
(who'd played more than 800 games), the Leafs went from ninth in
goals against to sixth in 1970-71 and '71-72 -- with totals
comparable to Boston and Montreal in those two seasons. These two
players made that young defence corps look good.

I don't note any explicit complaint about Dorey, but there were
comments that Baun was the only Leaf defenceman hitting anyone in the
series. Since Dorey's game was largely physical, perhaps he was being
damned indirectly.


On 8-Aug-08, at 5:14 AM, nybos1974 wrote:

> Thanks Lloyd, that explains a lot. The New York papers didn't delve
> into this much and it was hard to know if it was a controversial
> decision or not at the time. It may have been more controversial in
> Toronto, obviously.
>
> As for the defencemen, I thought Jim Dorey was playing well then and
> hadn't heard any complaints about him.

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Can anyone tell me why Jacques Plante got the start in game 6 of the playoffs in 1971 against the Rangers instead of Bernie Parent? Plante started the first...
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In the Toronto Star on April 14, Jim Proudfoot wrote that the Rangers had been targeting Bob Baun, who had missed the last six games of the 1970-71 season due...
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Thanks Lloyd, that explains a lot. The New York papers didn't delve into this much and it was hard to know if it was a controversial decision or not at the...
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I don't think it was a controversial move at all. The Globe and Mail didn't mention the change at all. No knock on Dorey. Here's the defence the Leafs started...
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It sure was controversial to the Leaf players. When we were filming our Leaf Classic Games shows, we aired a number of games from the 1970-71 season and 3 ...
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In the Toronto Star on April 14, Jim Proudfoot wrote that the Rangers had been targeting Bob Baun, who had missed the last six games of the 1970-71 season due...
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Lloyd, Your post made me recall another story that shows one way Plante found to create confidence for his young D. I think it was Mike Pelyk that told the...
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Thanks for the insight, Paul. I've also found the players many times will have a different take on things than what is in the print media. Jay In a message...
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Thanks, Lloyd. It's an interesting point about Dorey, especially since he did have such a physical game. Jay In a message dated 8/8/2008 11:57:54 AM Eastern...
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For what it's worth, Plante posted the highest single season sv% ever that season. The Leafs were allowing a lot of shots with that young defense, but either...
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