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Re: [hockhist] Re: Recognition for hockey's female pioneers long overdue

However, your example of Quebec's politics is a
> regional one, at best. Here, in the People's Republic of California,
> women and men are allowed to take paid leave when a newborn arrives.
> Six weeks, on disability-scale payments, male or female.

Um, wow Morey, I have little idea how to respond here. I rarely accuse
people of being Amero-centric but open your eyes. In the entirety of the
European Union, in many other parts of Europe, in Canada, Japan, South
Korea, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and in many, many other
places, women get more parental leave than men. Yours in the regional
example here my friend. My God bless Quebec comment came from the fact
that women get more leave here than in most other places, not that
disparities in parental leaves are exclusive to my part of the world.
They are certainly not.

In fact, most of the western world has recognised that it is not a
slippery slope to PC-land to recognise some differences in people. Why is
this so tough to do with hockey?

John

Dr John Serrati
Assistant Prof. of Classics and History
John Abbott College
21,275 Lakeshore Road
St-Anne-de-Bellevue, Quebec
H9X 3L9

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Got to step in here because I sort of agree with Bill. Women's hockey, even in Canada, is not on the type of platform that deserves a Hall of Fame. Maybe...
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However, your example of Quebec's politics is a ... Um, wow Morey, I have little idea how to respond here. I rarely accuse people of being Amero-centric but...
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Jan 2, 2008
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... Why is ... It's not a slippery slope to PC Land to recognize differences in people. Just give us something worth recognizing. Women's hockey isn't there...
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Actually, I neglected to mention that yours is a line of argument that I think has merit. I do not agree with it mind you - I think the worth of a player,...
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Thank you for the apology, but it is not needed. I tend to be Amero- Centric when it comes to social policy, largely because I see the waste and...
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... Morey, just to set the record straight I want to make it clear that I never was arguing that we ought have to have women in the HHofF just because...
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Ahhh John but I never said no women in the Hall IF they had their own section for their unique game.I only said none in the GENERAL HALL unless their game...
William Underwood
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John, your assertion about calling it a Male Hall of Fame just because the standards are too high for women evokes a simple reaction from me..if we allow women...
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I think that, in principle at least, we are all fairly in agreement. No one wants to see a Mark Howe bumped and people seem satisfied with giving women a...
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Jan 4, 2008
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Actually John I am in agreement. I have no problems with a women's section and we needn't give anyone else one. As I said before THEY play a different ...
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Jan 4, 2008
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Hi all, catching up after being on vacation. Happily the thread had varied and opposed comments. The main thing I am puzzled about though is when people say...
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