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Do you have any stats on Sorin Matei. I thought he jumped very high in his
mid 30's

Denis Doyle


----- Original Message -----
From: "weiareinboud" <atalanta@...>
To: <highjump@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: [HJ] Re: scissors


> --- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, Kyley Johnson <kyleyjohnson@...> wrote:
> >Jonas is still the world leader I believe?
>
> No, Stefan Holm jumped 2.37 last weekend. At age 32 he is the oldest ever
who reached
> 2.37 or higher.
>
>
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--- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, Kyley Johnson <kyleyjohnson@...> wrote:
>Jonas is still the world leader I believe?

No, Stefan Holm jumped 2.37 last weekend. At age 32 he is the oldest ever who
reached
2.37 or higher.

Looking back 2nd and 4th was pretty darn good in 2004, the team is even deeper
this year if you are looking at the pr's these guys have plus they are all young
too.  Jonas is still the world leader I believe? but Jesse and Andra I think
both have enough experience to be in medal contention.

Also there have been some pretty good U.S. high jumpers to hang it up in their
prime.  Nathan Leeper had won four straight us titles before hanging it up
prematurely (he came back briefly in 04 but for only a couple months) and you
have to wonder about Charles Clingler, that is the one guy I think could have
challenged for the world record down the road.  I watched him have some narrow
misses at 2.41 at the prefontaine in 02 but he needed to get a real job for his
family etc. There just aren't a lot of opportunities for u.s. high jumpers to to
make a living out of it.  Like many of the field events very few do it full
time.  There are about what 4 guys that high jump full time in the us?

There also many opportunities in the US for big meets. How many top caliber
meets are there for u.s. high jumpers? Pre Classic the last two years but they
have had high jump three or four times in the past 13 years.  There is Drake and
Penn but those are stellar college meets at best with a huge weather question
mark every year, nothing else in the Visa Championship series.  Indoor usa's but
most say that is the lowest energy meet they compete in all year compared to
european indoor meets or even other collegiate meets there are more fans at etc.

The top guys are young though and have loads of talent plus Jamie and Tora are
always pretty consistent.
________________________________
> To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
> From: denis@...
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:46:07 +0100
> Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors
>
>
> I am pretty much in agreement with Dwight
>
> After Atlanta Charles Austin wanted what he (or his manager) thought was an
appropriate fee for an Olympic Champion. Unfortunately the meet promoters
thought that was too much. Distance races can be set up for records week after
week. The high jump can't. I think that was the start of the demise on the men's
major circuit. One height looks like another from the bleachers so they need to
be saying record attempt most weeks.
>
>  Bear in mind even when it is the men's turn on the Golden League the promoter
doesn't have to put an event on
>
> The women's event always was a cheaper option as well and now with Vlasic....
>
> If you want in on the circuit either jump high or get an agent who is part of
the inner circle. Jesse has and so he gets the meets
>
> I don't particularly think the USA is in decline. They are pretty much as good
as they have been internationally
>
> I thought we had seen the last of Andra after 2003 but he is still hanging in
there. Jesse is progressing steadily. They are both young. Jamie popped a 2m30 a
couple of days ago. The USA boys need to get into Europe more and not just put
up good domestic marks
>
> Donald Thomas is a talent but can he stay healthy? As to Beijing. Its never
been more open.
>
> Denis Doyle
>
>
>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@...>
Date: Mon, July 14, 2008 5:03 am
To: highjump@yahoogroups.com

thank's dwight, i didn't know it was that long ago, wow i'm getting old.  Milt  Goode told me he's talked to you recently dwight about the lack of talent in the current american highjumpers any perspectives on our lack of  achievement internationaly? --- On Sun, 7/13/08, dwight@dwightstones.com <dwight@dwightstones.com> wrote: From: dwight@dwightstones.com <dwight@dwightstones.com> Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors To: highjump@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:20 PM Harrison was the triple jump champ in 1996.     Coach Stones http://www.dwightstones.com/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> Date: Sun, July 13, 2008 2:24 am To: mailto:highjump@yahoogroups.com Hey Dennis ran into John morriss friday in berkeley along with kenny Harrison the olympic triple jump champ in 04!  John looked slim and trim like he could still jump and kenny Harrison, i've seen him go 7'1'' in flats no less, dudes got mad hops!   hope your getting pumped uo for the games! --- On Sun, 3/9/08, kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors To: highjump@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 9, 2008, 5:00 PM well it was the olympic trials dennis,how could you not be pumped up.  Three week's prior to that i jumped at the tac me at mt.sac.  I got there late and didn't have a chance to warm up properly.  By the time i got to the infield the bar was at 7ft.  i politely asked could i have a jump and everyone turned around and looked at me,Ben field's say" little brother,the bar at 7ft"  So i run up with my sweats on and everything and just blasted it,that day, i knew i belonged!  By the way,talked to Coart owens yesterday. 7'2 at alameda 7'4" at arizona state,he told me to tell you hi! dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: You must have been pumped. People will never forget you either.  There must have been some serious pressure.  My hobby would have been complete just being there. ----- Original Message ---- From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 6:53:55 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors Thank's Dennis.  The thing about what we did was the memories, you cant ever forget some of these times.  One of my favorite was the "80 olympic trial's in eugene! 62 jumpers,starting height 7'13/4" jumping behind jacobs and in front of stones,oh my God.  I'm twenty year's old,these dudes are my idol's,and here we are in eugene where the crowd know's who you are,what you've jumped in 8th grade even.  so i absolutely crashed the first jump, then boomed the next one. jumping in between two of the best ever,and reprasenting, doesn't get any better than that! dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: Hi Dwight,      Dwight, you inspired me to continue jumping after high school after watching you break another record in 74. I quit my job in El Paso and went to Mesa CC (Arizona) to get in shape and and to see if I could catch up to you. Guess what? While at MCC I learned how to over do it with squats with Ron Semkiw and watched him throw the shot one day for a 70 1/4 record throw. I still had fun and loved the rush of clearing the bar at any height and enjoyed the all-comer meets around LA. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dwight@dwightstone s.com" <dwight@dwightstones .com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:45:42 PM Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors John Morris.  (2.32m PR) at the 1990 Nationals at Cerritos.     Coach Stones http://www.dwightstones.com/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors From: dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> Date: Wed, March 05, 2008 3:15 pm To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Thanks Kerry, All the other jumpers had a bad day and I took advantage. How come you didn't show up at all comer's meets at Berkeley? You might recognize a couple of guys in the one photo, Maurice Crumby and John ??do't remember his last name who jumped for Cal a few years. I guess my biggest claim to any fame at all was being briefly ranked 17th all time in 1970 with a 6'10" jump at 16 years old, it didn't take much.  We had to be crazy back then landing on pieces of foam in a net. I don't know how many times I went through and hit the ground.  Thanks for noticing Kerry, I really need an ego boost right about now. ----- Original Message ---- From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors hey dennis i was just looking up golden west champion's and i saw alot of familur names including your old man. wow,that big time homey,congrat' s! kerrymyers dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: Yes , I wouldn't have it any other way. I tried to scissor but like a cat I just seemed to flip over. It turned out to be the best way for me. ----- Original Message ---- From: denis doyle <denis@topcoach. freeserve. co.uk> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2008 5:36:27 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors Hi Dennis Interesting photos. The first appears to show you jumping off the inside leg. Is that what you did? Denis Doyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "azdendude" <mailto:azdendude%40yahoo.com> To: <mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: [HJ] Re: scissors > I have been told I had an unusual style. I went from a scissors > approach that developed into a flop while in the air. I had no proper > training, my style just evolved. I was an average 7 footer for years > and was happy with that. I think if I had gotten more speed than what > my 5 to 7 step approach gave me I would have gone higher. I posted a > few photos.I began jumping in 1969 with a 6'2" jump. In 1970 I jumped > 6'10" at age 16 (ranking 17th all time US)and breaking Rey Brown's > age group mark. I then found myself with a hobby and still a > different approach from what others tell me. I felt quite natural > with my style. > Dennis DeLoach > > > > > > --- In mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com, "weiareinboud" <atalanta@.. .> wrote: > > > > > I can't see how 5 > > > scissors jumps in a workout will harm someone's technique. > > > > I think it depends. Denis gives an example of someone able to make > a nice transition from > > scissors to flop and there are more jumpers ho will be able to > master both techniques. But I > > have some athletes who have bad habits during take-off (the > mentioned non-stretched hip > > for example) and when they do scissors I shout "scissors are > forbidden!". But they like the > > scissors... and yes that is part of the problem/cause. > > One good thing, as mentioned earlier, is the verticality of jumping > scissors. Nevertheless > > contact time is different from the flop, so even here caution is > necessary. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

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From: hhughessmh@...

To: highjump@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:40 AM

Subject: [HJ] KNEES

Hi to all the group.

 

Any help would be greatful, i currently coach a 13 year old girl whom has a pr of 1.61m, shes been jumping about one year but unfortunately when laying out over the bar her legs and straight there is no knee flexing, also she goes over the bar with no bacvk arch what so ever (i call that piking),she has a six strided run up, given all the above im amazed she clears 1.61, its not a physical thing as when doing drills she lifts her take off knee quite well and can do stationery crabs arch her back perfectly.

 

STEVE UK

Hi JR

The use of a box itself should have no bearing on the for plant being in
line or otherwise. Anticipating layout which can be one of the causes of
moving the foot round will have a detrimental effect  whether there is a box
there or not. That is just bad jumping.

I agree that accuracy off a full run can be an issue. 95% of my box use is
off  a short approach work using it to focus on activity in the last couple
of strides. I also recommend a box at least 1 metre square (bigger target)
to minimise any psychological concerns. With synthetic on they should be
heavy enough not to move. If they do it gives great feedback as it says
something about the quality of the plant :-). I put ground down nails in the
bottom of mine to act as spike to help minimise any movement

Try scissor work first of 2-3 strides to get the advantage of working a box.
Once they can stand up and not collapse then move on to flopping/add a curve
etc

Denis Doyle



----- Original Message -----
From: "peypip" <skihard@...>
To: <highjump@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:19 AM
Subject: [HJ] Re: Questions


> --- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "denis doyle" <denis@...> wrote:
> > I would be interested in hearing your rationale for that statement
> > Denis Doyle
>  > > can lead to bad habits such as rotating the jump foot to parallel
> or > > even away from the pit.
> =============================================
> Denis,
> This is based mostly on observation I have made while visiting other
> schools and watching their practices. Many of the jumpers would slow
> as the approached the box, come out of their curve and then rotate
> their foot so as to be sure they landed in the pit. Many young
> jumpers already have problems in this area and I'm afraid this might
> reinforce it.
> I guess my main concern with a box is it messes with the natural flow
> a jumper should have going from their approach to their jump. But I
> have never really used them that much so if most here seem to like
> them I am certainly willing to give them a try! If any here really
> think using them is important please explain a few of your drills to
> me.
> J.R.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@...>
Date: Sun, July 13, 2008 2:24 am
To: highjump@yahoogroups.com

Hey Dennis ran into John morriss friday in berkeley along with kenny Harrison the olympic triple jump champ in 04!  John looked slim and trim like he could still jump and kenny Harrison, i've seen him go 7'1'' in flats no less, dudes got mad hops!   hope your getting pumped uo for the games! --- On Sun, 3/9/08, kerry myers <jumperkerry@yahoo.com> wrote: From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors To: highjump@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 9, 2008, 5:00 PM well it was the olympic trials dennis,how could you not be pumped up.  Three week's prior to that i jumped at the tac me at mt.sac.  I got there late and didn't have a chance to warm up properly.  By the time i got to the infield the bar was at 7ft.  i politely asked could i have a jump and everyone turned around and looked at me,Ben field's say" little brother,the bar at 7ft"  So i run up with my sweats on and everything and just blasted it,that day, i knew i belonged!  By the way,talked to Coart owens yesterday. 7'2 at alameda 7'4" at arizona state,he told me to tell you hi! dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: You must have been pumped. People will never forget you either.  There must have been some serious pressure.  My hobby would have been complete just being there. ----- Original Message ---- From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 6:53:55 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors Thank's Dennis.  The thing about what we did was the memories, you cant ever forget some of these times.  One of my favorite was the "80 olympic trial's in eugene! 62 jumpers,starting height 7'13/4" jumping behind jacobs and in front of stones,oh my God.  I'm twenty year's old,these dudes are my idol's,and here we are in eugene where the crowd know's who you are,what you've jumped in 8th grade even.  so i absolutely crashed the first jump, then boomed the next one. jumping in between two of the best ever,and reprasenting, doesn't get any better than that! dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: Hi Dwight,      Dwight, you inspired me to continue jumping after high school after watching you break another record in 74. I quit my job in El Paso and went to Mesa CC (Arizona) to get in shape and and to see if I could catch up to you. Guess what? While at MCC I learned how to over do it with squats with Ron Semkiw and watched him throw the shot one day for a 70 1/4 record throw. I still had fun and loved the rush of clearing the bar at any height and enjoyed the all-comer meets around LA. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dwight@dwightstone s.com" <dwight@dwightstones .com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:45:42 PM Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors John Morris.  (2.32m PR) at the 1990 Nationals at Cerritos.     Coach Stones http://www.dwightstones.com/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors From: dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> Date: Wed, March 05, 2008 3:15 pm To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Thanks Kerry, All the other jumpers had a bad day and I took advantage. How come you didn't show up at all comer's meets at Berkeley? You might recognize a couple of guys in the one photo, Maurice Crumby and John ??do't remember his last name who jumped for Cal a few years. I guess my biggest claim to any fame at all was being briefly ranked 17th all time in 1970 with a 6'10" jump at 16 years old, it didn't take much.  We had to be crazy back then landing on pieces of foam in a net. I don't know how many times I went through and hit the ground.  Thanks for noticing Kerry, I really need an ego boost right about now. ----- Original Message ---- From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:25:06 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors hey dennis i was just looking up golden west champion's and i saw alot of familur names including your old man. wow,that big time homey,congrat' s! kerrymyers dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote: Yes , I wouldn't have it any other way. I tried to scissor but like a cat I just seemed to flip over. It turned out to be the best way for me. ----- Original Message ---- From: denis doyle <denis@topcoach. freeserve. co.uk> To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2008 5:36:27 AM Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors Hi Dennis Interesting photos. The first appears to show you jumping off the inside leg. Is that what you did? Denis Doyle ----- Original Message ----- From: "azdendude" <mailto:azdendude%40yahoo.com> To: <mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:07 PM Subject: [HJ] Re: scissors > I have been told I had an unusual style. I went from a scissors > approach that developed into a flop while in the air. I had no proper > training, my style just evolved. I was an average 7 footer for years > and was happy with that. I think if I had gotten more speed than what > my 5 to 7 step approach gave me I would have gone higher. I posted a > few photos.I began jumping in 1969 with a 6'2" jump. In 1970 I jumped > 6'10" at age 16 (ranking 17th all time US)and breaking Rey Brown's > age group mark. I then found myself with a hobby and still a > different approach from what others tell me. I felt quite natural > with my style. > Dennis DeLoach > > > > > > --- In mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com, "weiareinboud" <atalanta@.. .> wrote: > > > > > I can't see how 5 > > > scissors jumps in a workout will harm someone's technique. > > > > I think it depends. Denis gives an example of someone able to make > a nice transition from > > scissors to flop and there are more jumpers ho will be able to > master both techniques. But I > > have some athletes who have bad habits during take-off (the > mentioned non-stretched hip > > for example) and when they do scissors I shout "scissors are > forbidden!". But they like the > > scissors... and yes that is part of the problem/cause. > > One good thing, as mentioned earlier, is the verticality of jumping > scissors. Nevertheless > > contact time is different from the flop, so even here caution is > necessary. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

--- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "denis doyle" <denis@...> wrote:
> I would be interested in hearing your rationale for that statement
> Denis Doyle
  > > can lead to bad habits such as rotating the jump foot to parallel
or > > even away from the pit.
=============================================
Denis,
This is based mostly on observation I have made while visiting other
schools and watching their practices. Many of the jumpers would slow
as the approached the box, come out of their curve and then rotate
their foot so as to be sure they landed in the pit. Many young
jumpers already have problems in this area and I'm afraid this might
reinforce it.
I guess my main concern with a box is it messes with the natural flow
a jumper should have going from their approach to their jump. But I
have never really used them that much so if most here seem to like
them I am certainly willing to give them a try! If any here really
think using them is important please explain a few of your drills to
me.
J.R.

I would be interested in hearing your rationale for that statement

Denis Doyle

> can lead to bad habits such as rotating the jump foot to parallel or
> even away from the pit.
>

boxes can be good for a lot of reasons it helps give jumpers over the bar work,
plus they have more time in the air to experiment with things, such as driving
their head back to create a better arch etc.  It also gets them trained to
jumping at higher heights so they don't look so intimidating (even though it is
with assistance) you can take a lot of jumps because it is a lot lower impact. 
just make sure the box is secured with a 45lb weight or something so it doesn't
slide at takeoff.

grass jumping i wouldn't fully endorse.  I imagine you can't go at quite the
same heights, and although it is easier on the muscles it could be less stable
on the joints i.e. knee ankle etc. it's not as secure of a plant.  It depends
what age level though, if that is the only option it probably wouldn't hurt.
________________________________
> To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
> From: stephensjbs@...
> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:07:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [HJ] Questions
>
>
> Here's a couple of answers I bet no one is thinking of.....
>
>
>
> I coach elementery 5th grade through 8th grade, I use the box to answer the
simple question of 'will it hurt if I jump really high?' in addtion to working
with the athletes form. I see using the box as a major advantage especially with
younger athletes who can barely jump on to the landing pit mat.
>
>
>
> As for jumping on grass, never thought much of it. In my days of jumping at a
small school, we would jump from grass or dirt (in the days of cinder tracks) --
never saw any injuries.  I would watch out for morning dew, the grass would be
very sippery!
>
>
>
> JS
>
> --- On Fri, 7/11/08, peypip  wrote:
>
> From: peypip
> Subject: [HJ] Questions
> To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:08 PM
>
>
> First off, great job announcing the trials Dwight. I only wish they
> would have shown more high jump!
> With some time before the Olympics start I thought I'd stir up a
> little activity on this board with a couple questions I have been
> thinking about for a while.
>
> 1) Jump boxes and ramps
> I know a few coaches who swear by them and other who never use them.
> Does anyone here use them? If so, when and why? If not, why not.
> I do not as I feel that it messes with their rhythm over the bar and
> can lead to bad habits such as rotating the jump foot to parallel or
> even away from the pit.
>
> 2) Jumping on grass
> This is one I only just started thinking about. The pole vault coach
> at our school bought our old pit and set it up at his house (he has a
> lot of land). Our AD went ahead and gave him an old high jump pit as
> well. He is probably going to put in a run up for the pole vault but
> as of now everything is just on the grass. This summer I have met a
> few of my high jumpers out there to get some jumps in. They all seem
> to like jumping on the grass. They wear their spikes and have had no
> real trouble with slippage. This got me to wondering if maybe
> training for HJ on the grass may not be a bad idea. It seems like
> many jumpers complain about shin pain in their jumping leg by the end
> of the season. I am wondering if you spent time jumping off of the
> grass if it might help to put less stress on the leg.
>
>
>
>
>

First off, great job announcing the trials Dwight. I only wish they
would have shown more high jump!
With some time before the Olympics start I thought I'd stir up a
little activity on this board with a couple questions I have been
thinking about for a while.

1) Jump boxes and ramps
I know a few coaches who swear by them and other who never use them.
Does anyone here use them? If so, when and why? If not, why not.
I do not as I feel that it messes with their rhythm over the bar and
can lead to bad habits such as rotating the jump foot to parallel or
even away from the pit.

2) Jumping on grass
This is one I only just started thinking about. The pole vault coach
at our school bought our old pit and set it up at his house (he has a
lot of land). Our AD went ahead and gave him an old high jump pit as
well. He is probably going to put in a run up for the pole vault but
as of now everything is just on the grass. This summer I have met a
few of my high jumpers out there to get some jumps in. They all seem
to like jumping on the grass. They wear their spikes and have had no
real trouble with slippage. This got me to wondering if maybe
training for HJ on the grass may not be a bad idea. It seems like
many jumpers complain about shin pain in their jumping leg by the end
of the season. I am wondering if you spent time jumping off of the
grass if it might help to put less stress on the leg.

If you are interested go to this website for more info

http://scausatf.org/events/tfhp/index.htm

Its going to be taken place in Santa Monica, CA

Thanks Jan.. I will do the BCC things. Good Luck.

Jamie
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Jan Ligthart" <ligthartjgr@...>

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:57:51
To:<highjump@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HJ] New Web Site..


Jamie,
 
Please take some good advice on sending email to more than one address:
Put the list of addressees in the BCC-list.
This will make sure the list is not visible to the mail-program of the
addressees and (more important!) to a possible virus enabled to send spam to all
addresses found in either an address-list or all mail in a mailbox.
 
BTW: Good luck in achieving enough height to reach the Olympus !
See you in Beijing !
 
Jan Ligthart
HJ-coach Almere“81 Athletics Club, Netherlands




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Subject: [HJ] New Web Site..






To All My Friends and Family,
 
I was just sending this email to inform you about the new updated web site. I
hope all of you enjoy it and it helps to keep you up to date on my quest to
making another Olympic Team and winning a medal at the 2008 Olympic Games.
Please keep me in your prayers and I hope all is well.
 
 
Jamie Nieto
2004 Olympian (High Jump)
www.jamienieto. <http://www.jamienieto.com> com




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http://www.usatf.org/events/2008/OlympicTrials-TF/entry/qualifyingStandards.asp

i thought so as well, but the usatf site says June 15 is the cut off.
________________________________
> To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
> From: dwight@...
> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:23:41 -0700
> Subject: RE: [HJ] Elite Last Chance/tune up meet for the Olympic trials in
Eugene
>
>
> Kyley,
>
> Are you certain about the 15th being the last day to get Olympic Trials
qualifiers?  That seems a bit early for the cut-off.  Usually the cut-off is up
to the Monday of the week of the Trials which would make it June 23rd.
>
> Please let me know where you got this information.
>
>
> Coach Stones
> www.DwightStones.com

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [HJ] Elite Last Chance/tune up meet for the Olympic trials in
Eugene
From: k johnson <kyleyjohnson@...>
Date: Wed, June 04, 2008 4:13 pm
To: highjump <highjump@yahoogroups.com>

Hey all trying to gauge if there is any interest in any elite level jumpers competing at a meet in Eugene at the trials facility the weekend of June 15th. This is also the last day to up your mark for qualifying for the trials. They are considering having a high jump at this meet, but are waiting to gauge the interest level. If you are interested. Please email me as soon as possible and I will get the you meet director's email. There is not prize money, it is simply an opportunity to get in a competition at the trials venue before July.

thanks

Kyley

Hey all trying to gauge if there is any interest in any elite level jumpers
competing at a meet in Eugene at the trials facility the weekend of June 15th. 
This is also the last day to up your mark for qualifying for the trials.  They
are considering having a high jump at this meet, but are waiting to gauge the
interest level.  If you are interested.  Please email me as soon as possible and
I will get the you meet director's email.  There is not prize money, it is
simply an opportunity to get in a competition at the trials venue before July.

thanks

Kyley

Hi Steve

Dartfish - great piece of kit if you can afford it.

Cheaper functional alternatives to look at are Silicon Coach and Quintic

UCS pits are very good but pricey here in the UK. The 1300 one would also do
a pretty good job.

Denis

----- Original Message -----
From: "steveg_tuson" <lakertrack@...>
To: <highjump@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [HJ] High Jump Pit


>
> Thanks for the input Denis.  Here is what we are sort of leaning
> towards.
> http://www.ec-securehost.com/UCSInc/Landing_Areas_High_Jump.html#1325
> (that is if a few supporters/donors step up to fill a slight budget
> gap)
>
> Another equipment comment, we recently went in on a DartFish video
> system along with a couple of other teams.  Really a nice tool for
> watching and analyzing sports performances.
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "denis doyle" <denis@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > I have no comment on manufacturers as I dont live in the USA.
> >
> > However I suggest that you consider a 5mm x3m pit as an absolute
> mnimum.
> > 2.5m deep is too little.
> >
> > A 6m x3m will be better as it allows for big fast male jumpers or
> jumpers
> > taking off towars the middle of the pit. The cutouts allow for the
> bar to be
> > placed close to the pit withot the pit touching the uprights where a
> > vibration may ase the bar to fall.
> >
> > Should be 70cms high (current regs) but 60 or 65cms on pallets will
> work
> > well
> >
> > You have two internal options - solid foam or castellated (where
> there are
> > 6"x6" tubular spaces running though the foam) Ask the manufacturers
> what
> > their build design is. Castellated is soft from day one but wears
> out
> > quicker.
> >
> > You may be able to invert the foam to lengthen usage life. But
> check where
> > the tubes start you need at least 12" solid foam ABOVE the tubes.
> Inverting
> > amy only give you 6". Some pits have a 1" layer of chipfoam in the
> bottom.
> > Inverted as the pit wears out will help extend its life
> >
> > Rain cover to keep the foam dry and a 2" minimum depth of foam on
> the top
> > wearsheet.
> >
> > Don't let kids lie around on the pit. That helps trash it very
> quickly
> >
> > regards
> > Denis Doyle
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "steveg_tuson" <lakertrack@...>
> > To: <highjump@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:00 PM
> > Subject: [HJ] High Jump Pit
> >
> >
> > > Any opinions on purchasing a new high jump pit?
> > >
> > > Looks like UCS, Gill, and Port-a-Pit are the primary players
> these days.
> > >
> > > We currently have a rectangular 8 x 16 pit that is hammered.
> Looking
> > > to upgrade to a wider 18' - 20' pit with a cut out.  Basically an
> entry
> > > level college set up.  We have two high schools that share the
> facility
> > > along with a junior high program and a couple of youth teams.  We
> also
> > > host a series of all-comer meets during the summer.
> > >
> > > So what recommendations?  UCS and Gill seem to have the best
> > > warranties.  Not really sure about going with a private label
> > > independent manufacture.
> > >
> > > Help??  (better yet, any super special Uncle Bob buddy deals??)
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the input Denis.  Here is what we are sort of leaning
towards.
http://www.ec-securehost.com/UCSInc/Landing_Areas_High_Jump.html#1325
(that is if a few supporters/donors step up to fill a slight budget
gap)

Another equipment comment, we recently went in on a DartFish video
system along with a couple of other teams.  Really a nice tool for
watching and analyzing sports performances.

Steve


--- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "denis doyle" <denis@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Steve
>
> I have no comment on manufacturers as I dont live in the USA.
>
> However I suggest that you consider a 5mm x3m pit as an absolute
mnimum.
> 2.5m deep is too little.
>
> A 6m x3m will be better as it allows for big fast male jumpers or
jumpers
> taking off towars the middle of the pit. The cutouts allow for the
bar to be
> placed close to the pit withot the pit touching the uprights where a
> vibration may ase the bar to fall.
>
> Should be 70cms high (current regs) but 60 or 65cms on pallets will
work
> well
>
> You have two internal options - solid foam or castellated (where
there are
> 6"x6" tubular spaces running though the foam) Ask the manufacturers
what
> their build design is. Castellated is soft from day one but wears
out
> quicker.
>
> You may be able to invert the foam to lengthen usage life. But
check where
> the tubes start you need at least 12" solid foam ABOVE the tubes.
Inverting
> amy only give you 6". Some pits have a 1" layer of chipfoam in the
bottom.
> Inverted as the pit wears out will help extend its life
>
> Rain cover to keep the foam dry and a 2" minimum depth of foam on
the top
> wearsheet.
>
> Don't let kids lie around on the pit. That helps trash it very
quickly
>
> regards
> Denis Doyle
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steveg_tuson" <lakertrack@...>
> To: <highjump@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:00 PM
> Subject: [HJ] High Jump Pit
>
>
> > Any opinions on purchasing a new high jump pit?
> >
> > Looks like UCS, Gill, and Port-a-Pit are the primary players
these days.
> >
> > We currently have a rectangular 8 x 16 pit that is hammered.
Looking
> > to upgrade to a wider 18' - 20' pit with a cut out.  Basically an
entry
> > level college set up.  We have two high schools that share the
facility
> > along with a junior high program and a couple of youth teams.  We
also
> > host a series of all-comer meets during the summer.
> >
> > So what recommendations?  UCS and Gill seem to have the best
> > warranties.  Not really sure about going with a private label
> > independent manufacture.
> >
> > Help??  (better yet, any super special Uncle Bob buddy deals??)
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>