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RE: [HJ] Re: scissors

It would be easier to lament the U.S. high jumper performance internationally if there hadn't been a 2nd and 4th place finish in Athens.  Everyone stunk the place up in 2005 in Helsinki so that's no gauge and Osaka was a one-time chance for Donald Thomas.  I don't believe we'll be hearing from him again.
 
So, where does that leave us?  Andra Manson won an indoor Worlds bronze last March and Jesse Williams should have enough international experience by now that he can be a contender in China.  I expect an American on the podium and then all will appear right with the world of high jump once more.
 
Here's the long range problem as I see it.  Do you see very many of the European circuit meets with the men's high jump as one of the consistent events contested?  Why do you think that is?  Changing that is crucial if the event is going to have any chance of elevating anywhere close to its former prominence.  If the jumpers don't have major meets, in front of large crowds, to perform in, the event will continue to stagnate and it won't get covered except as a "winning jump only."
 
I can't sell an event where they are so far from the world record and there are no real personalities to speak of.  Fix either or both of those things and we'll see the men's high jump on television more often in the future.
 
 
Coach Stones
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@...>
Date: Mon, July 14, 2008 5:03 am
To: highjump@yahoogroups.com

thank's dwight, i didn't know it was that long ago, wow i'm getting old.  Milt  Goode told me he's talked to you recently dwight about the lack of talent in the current american highjumpers any perspectives on our lack of  achievement internationaly?

--- On Sun, 7/13/08, dwight@dwightstones.com <dwight@dwightstones.com> wrote:
From: dwight@dwightstones.com <dwight@dwightstones.com>
Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors
To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 8:20 PM

Harrison was the triple jump champ in 1996.
 
 
Coach Stones
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, July 13, 2008 2:24 am
To: mailto:highjump@yahoogroups.com

Hey Dennis
ran into John morriss friday in berkeley along with kenny Harrison the olympic triple jump champ in 04!  John looked slim and trim like he could still jump and kenny Harrison, i've seen him go 7'1'' in flats no less, dudes got mad hops!   hope your getting pumped uo for the games!

--- On Sun, 3/9/08, kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors
To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 9, 2008, 5:00 PM

well it was the olympic trials dennis,how could you not be pumped up.  Three week's prior to that i jumped at the tac me at mt.sac.  I got there late and didn't have a chance to warm up properly.  By the time i got to the infield the bar was at 7ft.  i politely asked could i have a jump and everyone turned around and looked at me,Ben field's say" little brother,the bar at 7ft"  So i run up with my sweats on and everything and just blasted it,that day, i knew i belonged!  By the way,talked to Coart owens yesterday. 7'2 at alameda 7'4" at arizona state,he told me to tell you hi!

dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote:
You must have been pumped. People will never forget you either.  There must have been some serious pressure.  My hobby would have been complete just being there.
----- Original Message ----
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com>
To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 6:53:55 AM
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors

Thank's Dennis.  The thing about what we did was the memories, you cant ever forget some of these times.  One of my favorite was the "80 olympic trial's in eugene! 62 jumpers,starting height 7'13/4" jumping behind jacobs and in front of stones,oh my God.  I'm twenty year's old,these dudes are my idol's,and here we are in eugene where the crowd know's who you are,what you've jumped in 8th grade even.  so i absolutely crashed the first jump, then boomed the next one. jumping in between two of the best ever,and reprasenting, doesn't get any better than that!

dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote:
Hi Dwight,
     Dwight, you inspired me to continue jumping after high school after watching you break another record in 74. I quit my job in El Paso and went to Mesa CC (Arizona) to get in shape and and to see if I could catch up to you. Guess what? While at MCC I learned how to over do it with squats with Ron Semkiw and watched him throw the shot one day for a 70 1/4 record throw. I still had fun and loved the rush of clearing the bar at any height and enjoyed the all-comer meets around LA.


----- Original Message ----
From: "dwight@dwightstone s.com" <dwight@dwightstones .com>
To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 6:45:42 PM
Subject: RE: [HJ] Re: scissors

John Morris.  (2.32m PR) at the 1990 Nationals at Cerritos.
 
 
Coach Stones
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors
From: dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com>
Date: Wed, March 05, 2008 3:15 pm
To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com

Thanks Kerry,
All the other jumpers had a bad day and I took advantage. How come you didn't show up at all comer's meets at Berkeley? You might recognize a couple of guys in the one photo, Maurice Crumby and John ??do't remember his last name who jumped for Cal a few years. I guess my biggest claim to any fame at all was being briefly ranked 17th all time in 1970 with a 6'10" jump at 16 years old, it didn't take much.  We had to be crazy back then landing on pieces of foam in a net. I don't know how many times I went through and hit the ground. 
Thanks for noticing Kerry, I really need an ego boost right about now.
----- Original Message ----
From: kerry myers <jumperkerry@ yahoo.com>
To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2008 5:25:06 AM
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors

hey dennis
i was just looking up golden west champion's and i saw alot of familur names including your old man. wow,that big time homey,congrat' s! kerrymyers

dennis deloach <azdendude@yahoo. com> wrote:
Yes , I wouldn't have it any other way. I tried to scissor but like a cat I just seemed to flip over. It turned out to be the best way for me.

----- Original Message ----
From: denis doyle <denis@topcoach. freeserve. co.uk>
To: highjump@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2008 5:36:27 AM
Subject: Re: [HJ] Re: scissors

Hi Dennis

Interesting photos. The first appears to show you jumping off the inside
leg.

Is that what you did?

Denis Doyle

----- Original Message -----
From: "azdendude" <mailto:azdendude%40yahoo.com>
To: <mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: [HJ] Re: scissors

> I have been told I had an unusual style. I went from a scissors
> approach that developed into a flop while in the air. I had no proper
> training, my style just evolved. I was an average 7 footer for years
> and was happy with that. I think if I had gotten more speed than what
> my 5 to 7 step approach gave me I would have gone higher. I posted a
> few photos.I began jumping in 1969 with a 6'2" jump. In 1970 I jumped
> 6'10" at age 16 (ranking 17th all time US)and breaking Rey Brown's
> age group mark. I then found myself with a hobby and still a
> different approach from what others tell me. I felt quite natural
> with my style.
> Dennis DeLoach
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> --- In mailto:highjump%40yahoogroups.com, "weiareinboud" <atalanta@.. .> wrote:
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> > > I can't see how 5
> > > scissors jumps in a workout will harm someone's technique.
> >
> > I think it depends. Denis gives an example of someone able to make
> a nice transition from
> > scissors to flop and there are more jumpers ho will be able to
> master both techniques. But I
> > have some athletes who have bad habits during take-off (the
> mentioned non-stretched hip
> > for example) and when they do scissors I shout "scissors are
> forbidden!". But they like the
> > scissors... and yes that is part of the problem/cause.
> > One good thing, as mentioned earlier, is the verticality of jumping
> scissors. Nevertheless
> > contact time is different from the flop, so even here caution is
> necessary.
> >
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