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[HJ] Re: Help?

For starters not entirely too bad for a new jumper :). she appears
to be fairly fluid in the run up. I like the touch with the hurdle
to reinforce not cutting off the j (slashing the curve). Another
thing my coach tried with me was to actually run the curve with me
and force me to run on the outside of him. I actually high jumped
6'4" in high school by running a straight down the middle approach I
invented and then my college coach had to break me of it to run a j
approach.

Ok in The 1st jump - your daughter did not block to transition - I
think that is one big thing to start with, that is to focus on the
last three with the block and knee drive, to facilitate vertical
transfer and the loading effect. Most young jumpers will start out
not transferring the horizontal motion much and seem to initiate a
type of flat parabolic curve.

I wish I had a touch screen to draw what I mean - I will work on
that, but the point is try having her run comfortably thru the
curve, fast aggressive last three with a strong block then load with
a pop up without the bar, or with the bar trying not to jump over,
just getting hips as high over in a straight up vertical. Let me
know if I need to describe better??

Once she can transition her forward speed to a strong vertical pop
up - then move to putting the bar up - 1-2 inches below the highest
that she was able to pop up [try recording this using standard as a
ruler??). Also The jumper should not travel too far down the bar,
and initiate an almost straight up and down parabolic curve over the
bar.

2nd video was a much better jump, but a little hop type step before
jumping??, but a little more pronounced in the transition of
horizontal to vertical transfer.

I am a proponent of the strong lean away at the takeoff step, this I
am confident promotes exceptional rotation over the bar.

I think one thing to do is really try out lots of different heights
for comfort, other than the 1-2" below the pop up, I can't define a
specific height, this will be a trial and error phase.

But do the fun stuff, and try to keep an eagle eye on form [fluid,
yet controlled speed to vertical transfer].

I will be curious to see what others have to add - perhaps a more
structured training approach - I would like to hear from Glen Stone
and Dennis Doyle perhaps.

Hope this helps.

Tony



--- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Anderson" <racefan@m...>
wrote:
> Tony-
> I have both files uploaded now to the group site, they are both
under Files and Anderson. Let me know what you think/suggest. I want
to make her practices fun, how do we determine what height to work
out and let her work on technique with? Find a max and go a certain
percentage below that, or what do we do?
> Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Coates
> To: highjump@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 1:03 PM
> Subject: [HJ] Re: Help?
>
>
> Phil,
>
> I have tried e-mailing offlist - but pm3angels bounces back, my
> personal e-mail is acoates@o... or acoates@c... at
> work.
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>
>
> Tony C
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>
> --- In highjump@yahoogroups.com, "datascope1" <racefan@m...>
wrote:
> > Denis and/or Tony-
> > I m sorry for the post to the entire group, but please send me
a
> > private e-mail message at pm3angels@a... I would like to send
you
> > two video clips of my daughter jumping, maybe you could give
some
> > helpful insight on technique issues? We would greatly
appreciate
> it.
> > She is nearing the USATF Bantam National Record this early in
the
> > season, and she could use any tidbit of info you could provide
to
> get
> > it. Thanks.
> > Phil Anderson
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Wed May 7, 2003 5:50 am

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Which would you prefer I send the video to? I can send to either, I am assuming you would take a look at them. I have two, one at a 4' 5" (which I think is...
Phil Anderson
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May 6, 2003
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Tony- I have both files uploaded now to the group site, they are both under Files and Anderson. Let me know what you think/suggest. I want to make her...
Phil Anderson
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May 6, 2003
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For starters not entirely too bad for a new jumper :). she appears to be fairly fluid in the run up. I like the touch with the hurdle to reinforce not cutting...
Tony Coates
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May 7, 2003
5:50 am

Tony- It does help a great deal, this forum is a great place for young jumpers to gain the coaching and experience of some very good jumpers. I want it to be...
Phil Anderson
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May 7, 2003
11:34 am

Phil & Others, BTW - in regards to your 6'10" PR, which I have mentioned was mine also back in 1985 & 86. When did you jump 6'10" - where do you suppose you...
Tony Coates
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May 7, 2003
8:56 pm

can i just add 2 comments to her jump? 1, her knee lift is high enough but not rotated enough such that she is jumping into the pit sideways rather than back...
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May 7, 2003
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Thanks, your feedback is appreciated! Phil ... From: Goh Wee Ping To: highjump@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: [HJ] Re: Help? ...
Phil Anderson
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May 7, 2003
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That PR was in my Sophomore year of high school at LDF High in LeGrand, Iowa. It was the Saturday after the State track meet where I only wnet 6' 6" and...
Phil Anderson
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May 7, 2003
9:48 pm

Tony- Do you remember an obscure name from 1985-86 in Iowa. A guy named Brian Tietjens who went over 7' 3" in Iowa that year. He was from Dexter-Manley High...
Phil Anderson
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May 7, 2003
9:53 pm

Yep I remember Tietjens - never had the pleasure of competing out in the Iowa area, and I have been beaten by the best ;) Brian Whitehead, Jerome Carter,...
Tony Coates
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May 8, 2003
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The military is like the wrecking yard for track careers?! If I remember correctly, I think Brian Tietjens broke his take off foot or something and never...
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