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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Scheef [mailto:jscheef@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 3:26 PM
To: ctnordicskiers@yahoogroups.com; hcc-ski@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [hcc-ski] Re: [CT Nordic Skiers] Highland Center in Crawford Notch

Ralph,

There probably is but I'm not up on where the trails might be. Any ski
guidebook covering the White Mountains will have trails within a few minutes
drive of Crawford Notch. Modern skiing in this country started in the Whites
in the 20's. The very first professional ski school in North America was in
Franconia (Inn at Strawberry Hill, I believe). Canon was a ski area befor the
CCC cut trails on Wildcat, Cranmore and Tecumseh (Waterville Valley)
Backcountry skiing is available - it just might not be out the door of the
Highland Center.

If you want to backcountry ski out the door of an AMC facility, I would
suggest the Joe Dodge Lodge at Pinkham Notch. There are trails that go south
to Jackson along the Ellis (sp?) River, the Old Jackson Road goes north, the
Wildcat Valley Trail (off the back of Wildcat going down to Jackson - 3000
vertical feet), plus the Sherborn Trail coming down out of Tuckermann Ravine.
Tuckermann and the eastern side of Mt. Washington is possibly the ultimate
backcountry experience, all out the door of Pinkham Notch (or very close).
Everyone should ski Tuck at least once. :-)

Many people also ski into the huts that are open year around - Zealand Falls
and Carter Notch. Both buts are open on a caretaker basis during the winter.

Sorry - I get carried away with ski history sometimes.

Jim


--- Ralph <rscott271@...> wrote:
> I was wondering if there was Cardigan Lodge type XC at Highland? 
> Backcountry, but frequently skied - not just constantly break your
> own trail stuff.
>
> --- In ctnordicskiers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Scheef <jscheef@y...>
> wrote:
> > Ralph and all,
> >
> > Hey, it's the White Mountains and you're in Crawford Notch! There
> is back
> > country skiing to the extent that the hiking trails are skiable.
> Personally,
> > I'll stick to snowshoes on the hiking trails, but your mileage may
> vary.
> > Since the train does not run in the winter, the railroad bed would
> be gentle
> > back country skiing going south thru the notch and down the 1-3%
> grade or
> > north to Bretton Woods. There are two trestles going south that
> could prove a
> > challenge. Frankenstein trestle is quite spectacular and is a
> popular
> > ice/rock climbing site. Snow and ice falling from the cliffs above
> could be a
> > hazard.
> >
> > There is a caveat on the skiing out the door to Bretton Woods and
> that is
> > that Highland Center is at the very top of the notch so skiing from
> Highland
> > to Bretton Woods would be generally down and probably quite fun,
> but the
> > return trip might not be for everyone.
> >
> > A private room as a single would be a bit steep by AMC standards
> but probably
> > not by hotel standards. Remember that the rates include two full
> meals and
> > the food was pretty good.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > --- Ralph Scott <rscott271@h...> wrote:
> > > Is there good backcountry skiing out the door from Highland
> Lodge?  Nice to
> > >
> > > hear there is ski in/out to Bretton Woods, so everyone can come
> and go as
> > > they please.  I'm a light sleeper and prefer a private room.  I
> got the
> > > feeling that would run me well over $100 a night a Highland,
> seemed a
> > > little
> > > steep for an AMC facility.  They had an AMC leadership training
> program up
> > > there in the fall and between the program fee and lodging the
> price was
> > > very
> > > high.  It seems a lot of these groups are going upscale.  My
> local Audubon
> > > group is having black tie events a Cartier!   Wanaloncet Cabin is
> gone and
> > > never replaced to my knowledge, as they said it would be.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jim Scheef <jscheef@y...>
> > > >Reply-To: ctnordicskiers@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: ctnordicskiers@yahoogroups.com, hcc-ski@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [CT Nordic Skiers] Highland Center in Crawford Notch
> > > >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 08:42:08 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > >We spent most of last week at AMC's new Highland Center in
> Crawford Notch
> > > >and
> > > >skied both alpine and Nordic at Bretton Woods. We even did a
> little snow
> > > >shoeing. There is nothing that a little snow wouldn't cure at
> Bretton
> > > >Woods.
> > > >We skied early in the week and they have an excellent base with
> great
> > > >grooming. Our first run was down the trail off the back side of
> the
> > > Bretton
> > > >Woods alpine area. Your XC trail pass is good for one ride up
> the lift.
> > > The
> > > >trails had not been groomed in a least three days, so the snow
> was fast
> > > but
> > > >quite skiable. Of course we met the groomer at the bottom. We
> then crossed
> > > >the street and spent the afternoon on the regular Nordic trails
> which were
> > > >excellent. The weather was fantastic and we sat for half an hour
> enjoying
> > > >the
> > > >view of Mt Washington from the deck outside the yurt on
> Corronary Hill.
> > > The
> > > >ride down the Corronary Hills trail was delightful if not
> terribly
> > > >exciting.
> > > >
> > > >The Alpine skiing at Bretton Woods was also delightful if not
> terribly
> > > >exciting. Bretton Woods has added a new "peak" and bills
> themselves as the
> > > >"largest ski area in NH". What they do have is some wonderful
> glades for
> > > >skiers of all abilities.
> > > >
> > > >The AMC Highland Center is my new favorite NH destination. We
> are already
> > > >planning an AMC/HCC trip up there for next February. Take
> Pinkham Notch
> > > and
> > > >stir in a heathy dose of the Trapp Family Lodge and you have the
> Highland
> > > >Center. We stayed in a room with a private bath and a DSL
> Internet
> > > >connection! (It never occurred to me to bring an ethernet card.)
> The
> > > >typical
> > > >room is more like Pinkham with four or six bunks and the bath
> down the
> > > >hall.
> > > >You can get wine or beer with dinner - how civilized! Bretton
> Woods has
> > > >extended the trail system up the Notch to the Highland Center so
> the
> > > skiing
> > > >is essentially out the door.
> > > >
> > > >We also snowshoed and XC skied in or near Waterville Valley.
> They have
> > > much
> > > >less snow than up in Crawford Notch.
> > > >
> > > >Jim
> > > >
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