> I guess you want to get into a debate on what seat and seat height
> means. My bent does not meet the definition of a toy regardless. My
> bent has a seat that is basically part of a chair. Suppose the chair
> bottom is well below 25" but the chair back is above 25", it can be
> reasonably argued both ways as to the bent being a toy or a vehicle.
>
> Maybe we can get back on topic of how to put an end to Adchoppers.
>>

> I guess you want to get into a debate on what seat and seat height
> means. My bent does not meet the definition of a toy regardless. My
> bent has a seat that is basically part of a chair. Suppose the chair
> bottom is well below 25" but the chair back is above 25", it can be
> reasonably argued both ways as to the bent being a toy or a vehicle.
>
> Maybe we can get back on topic of how to put an end to Adchoppers.
>

Well, the bike law debate may seem arcane but there are consequences
to poorly worded laws. You are not allowed to operate a toy bicycle
on the roadway, so if a car creams you and your bent a clever lawyer
for the driver of the car could use that to say you were at fault and,
frankly, I doubt if the judge would be impressed by you seat back
argument. I'm not raising these issues just to be funny. If I had a
bent I would certainly want to see this law changed.

There was a mainland case where a bicycle was hit while on the
shoulder in a state that had a law similar to our old law in Hawaii
and the driver's lawyer argued that the bicycle was at fault because
he was on the shoulder. People mistakingly think we don't need to fix
the law if HPD isn't ticketing for it, but the question of liability
in an accident is an important issue.

The question of whether or not you can be ticketed for parking a
bicycle to a bicycle rack for more than 24 hours is of interest to the
readers of this list I would think. I've been trying to get our
idiotic bicycle parking law changed for some time and have been
unsuccessful mostly because a certain bike/ped coordinator opposes the
change (correct me if I am wrong if you are reading this).

There are a whole bunch of stupid laws like this - in Hawaii it is not
legal to signal a right turn with your right hand even though nine out
of ten drivers don't have a clue what you are doing when you use the
legally approved hand turn signal. No big deal you say - think of the
clever lawyer again.

Well, maybe I'll update the web site - mostly I should put in the
parking stuff and add in the helmet law - there haven't really been
any other changes of significance since I put it up.