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Mark Bell of Adchoppers Declares War on Critical Mass!!!   Message List  
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Re: Mark Bell of Adchoppers Declares War on Critical Mass!!!

--- In hawaiibicyclists@yahoogroups.com, "Bike Oahu" <bikeoahu@...> wrote:
>
> HPD has ticketed bicycles locked to a sign post in front of my office
> building because they were positioned such that it made it hard for
> the mailman to open a mail box, so they can also ticket the
> adchoppers if they chose to.
>
Actually - it is illegal in the C&C to lock your bicycle to a signpost
period, whether or not is is blocking something and whether or not it
has been there for 24 hours or longer:

* Sec. 15-18.6 Parking.*

No person shall park a bicycle upon a street other than upon the
roadway against the curb, or upon the sidewalk in a rack to support
the bicycle, or against a building; and in such manner as to afford
the least obstruction to pedestrian traffic.


Further, the 24 hour parking limit applies only to parking "... upon
any streets within the [C&C]," so parking a bicycle off the street
does not violate the law (15-16-8). So, you are completely, entirely,
emphatically wrong in your assertion that the police can ticket this
guy for violating any existing C&C ordinance. You really ought to
actually read the Revised Ordinances of Honolulu (see
http://www.co.honolulu.hi.us/menu/government/gov_resources/refs/index.htm
)
before you pontificate on what they say!

Aloha, - John










Tue Feb 6, 2007 4:39 am

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Hiya fellow Bicyclists! I received a call today from a detective at the HPD. He called my house and asked for Karl... He actually asked for Karl Friedrich...
Karl Friedrich Hieron...
pfalters
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Jan 30, 2007
2:51 am

Vandalism is the wrong way to solve the problem of Mark Bell's adchoppers. Unless HPD has evidence that the same tool or person was involved with several of...
Bike Oahu
cbbicycle
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Feb 3, 2007
8:26 am

... Actually - it is illegal in the C&C to lock your bicycle to a signpost period, whether or not is is blocking something and whether or not it has been there...
John W
akohekohe
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Feb 6, 2007
4:41 am

... My error for including the words "City property" but,your implication that the only laws which might apply in this situation are Revised Ordinances of...
Bike Oahu
cbbicycle
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Feb 9, 2007
4:21 am

Actually, you are still confused on these issues. The City and County has jurisdiction for parking regulations on "State" highways within the C&C, see for...
John W
akohekohe
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Feb 9, 2007
10:59 am

... Actually, I am not confused at all. ... highway. Or maybe it is on a(n) street, arterial street, private road, driveway, safety zone or through highway. ...
Bike Oahu
cbbicycle
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Feb 9, 2007
7:41 pm

... Well, the bike law debate may seem arcane but there are consequences to poorly worded laws. You are not allowed to operate a toy bicycle on the roadway,...
John W
akohekohe
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Feb 9, 2007
9:31 pm

... to poorly worded laws. I never stated nor do I consider bike law debates arcane, especially when the debate is with someone who knows the law, as you do. ...
Bike Oahu
cbbicycle
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Feb 11, 2007
8:26 pm
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