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Mark Bell of Adchoppers Declares War on Critical Mass!!!   Message List  
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Re: Mark Bell of Adchoppers Declares War on Critical Mass!!!

Vandalism is the wrong way to solve the problem of Mark Bell's
adchoppers.
Unless HPD has evidence that the same tool or person was involved
with several of the adchoppers, then I tend to believe it was done by
a combination of kids, homeless, carelessness and incompetent
thieves. We all know what would happen to our bikes if we left them
locked to the same rack for over a month. HPD should understand that
as well. The only surprise is that all of the adchoppers have not
been stolen yet.

HPD could solve the problem of the adchoppers as well. They are
defined as vehicles under the law, vehicles parked at the same spot
of City property over 24 hours can be ticketed and abandoned notices
posted. If not removed by the owner, then the city can remove them.
HPD has ticketed bicycles locked to a sign post in front of my office
building because they were positioned such that it made it hard for
the mailman to open a mail box, so they can also ticket the
adchoppers if they chose to.

If cyclist want to put an end to adchoppers the proper and most
effective way, then copy the ad info on each of the adchoppers. Post
it here, other forums and pass it on to all your friends. Then all
of us can start calling the businesses using adchoppers, telling them
how offensive and rude we find the practice and that we will refuse
to use their business and will ask all our friends and family to do
the same.




Sat Feb 3, 2007 8:26 am

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Hiya fellow Bicyclists! I received a call today from a detective at the HPD. He called my house and asked for Karl... He actually asked for Karl Friedrich...
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pfalters
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Jan 30, 2007
2:51 am

Vandalism is the wrong way to solve the problem of Mark Bell's adchoppers. Unless HPD has evidence that the same tool or person was involved with several of...
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cbbicycle
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Feb 3, 2007
8:26 am

... Actually - it is illegal in the C&C to lock your bicycle to a signpost period, whether or not is is blocking something and whether or not it has been there...
John W
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Feb 6, 2007
4:41 am

... My error for including the words "City property" but,your implication that the only laws which might apply in this situation are Revised Ordinances of...
Bike Oahu
cbbicycle
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Feb 9, 2007
4:21 am

Actually, you are still confused on these issues. The City and County has jurisdiction for parking regulations on "State" highways within the C&C, see for...
John W
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Feb 9, 2007
10:59 am

... Actually, I am not confused at all. ... highway. Or maybe it is on a(n) street, arterial street, private road, driveway, safety zone or through highway. ...
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Feb 9, 2007
7:41 pm

... Well, the bike law debate may seem arcane but there are consequences to poorly worded laws. You are not allowed to operate a toy bicycle on the roadway,...
John W
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Feb 9, 2007
9:31 pm

... to poorly worded laws. I never stated nor do I consider bike law debates arcane, especially when the debate is with someone who knows the law, as you do. ...
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Feb 11, 2007
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