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Re: A Dr Evil rubber observation


> Fark it, I say... and break out the new red / black hardbat. Dr. Evil on a
5-ply 729 Black Whirlwind blade. Knowing that the red side is higher COF, I
originally played that on my backhand... to no avail....
>
> Switched it around (red on the forehand) and handily defeated him 21 - 11.
>
> Anti-Spin? Yeah, I definitely think there may be something to that. My game
against him went from an intense struggle to read and counter spin.... to a much
more effective attacking game that I'm used to playing.

What kind or rubber was on his racket?

Anyway, as to the anti-spin bit, I just don't know. When I use Dr Evil, it
seems to put exactly the spin on the ball that I'd expect. If a sponge player
loops a ball and I block it, it tends to come out dead. But frankly, that's
what happens with Butterfly Orthodox, the Hardbat Classic racket and with
Leyland rubber.

We have a player at the club who was playing with anti-spin on both sides of his
racket. He blocks close to the table and counter attacks with relatively flat
shots. I watched his style of play and suggested that he try hardbat - which he
did. He was immediately at home with hardbat and Dr Evil.

He also played and trained for the Hardbat Classic and had no problem adapting
to the use of that racket which uses a pretty spinny rubber. Every topspin ball
that he blocks back to me comes back dead with no spin using that spinny
Killerspin rubber.

Since I've never used anti-spin rubber, I don't know if Dr Evil behaves like
anti-spin or not. When playing sponge players, I find that the relatively low
spin of any hardbat tends to confuse them. It doesn't matter if I'm using
Leyland, Dr Evil, Butterfly Orthodox, or the Killerspin racket. The spinnier
the rubber, the lower the level of confusion, but they still have trouble
reading the ball - pretty much in proportion to their playing level. The better
and more experienced the player, the greater the confusion. Two years ago when
I played with short pips (802-40)and sponge on my backhand for a bit, I ran into
similar reactions. My conclusion is that lots of players only know how to read
and deal with the behavior of spinny sponge rubber.

> Interesting how not having to dedicate so much energy and concentration into
the reading of spin... can allow for better focus on other parts of the game.

I agree. I think that is one of the things that attracts me to hardbat.

> When the time comes to play him "officially" for the tournament, most
assuredly, I know what weapon to choose.

My bet is that you will get a similar result using any hardbat.

Jay Turberville
www.jayandwanda.com





Wed Jul 1, 2009 1:50 pm

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I went back to playing with my Dr Evil on my Donic All-Play blade this evening. It was nice getting back to the feel of this racket. While waiting to play, I...
Jay Turberville
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Jun 30, 2009
6:48 am

Interesting observation, sir. As to the modifications you propose... it would be moving toward a "Butterfly Orthodox" type of material... yes.. .with...
Larry Bone
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Jun 30, 2009
1:06 pm

... Well, the idea is to make Dr Evil more Leyland like, not more like Butterfly Orthodox. Though I do see your point. The Leyland that I have has textured...
Jay Turberville
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Jun 30, 2009
3:31 pm

... I've not (yet) had the pleasure of hitting with Leyland so perhaps my frame of reference is off a bit. ... OK... the Butterfly Orthodox that I have on my...
Larry Bone
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Jun 30, 2009
4:40 pm

So yesterday I was playing the fellow at work that gives me the most difficulty as far as spin, et. We've a tournament in the works and I've been playing the...
Larry Bone
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Jul 1, 2009
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... What kind or rubber was on his racket? Anyway, as to the anti-spin bit, I just don't know. When I use Dr Evil, it seems to put exactly the spin on the...
Jay Turberville
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Jul 1, 2009
1:51 pm

Well, I went down to JoAnn's and bought some Linen. Last night I used TearMender to bond it to the back of some Dr. Evil. The process is simply. I apply a...
Jay Turberville
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Jul 1, 2009
1:29 pm

BTW, I used TearMender because it is essentially water based latex. It dries fairly slowly (making it pretty easy to work with) leaving behind a somewhat...
Jay Turberville
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Jul 1, 2009
7:26 pm

Well, I played with my modified Dr Evil last night. To re-cap, I used TearMender to add a linen backing to a sheet of Dr Evil rubber. The sheet went from...
Jay Turberville
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Jul 2, 2009
8:24 pm

Nicely done on all counts Jay. The pics of the affixment show a level of attention to detail and craftsmanship that appeals to me immensely. The results......
Larry Bone
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Jul 3, 2009
2:04 am

... Well, there really isn't much craftsmansip involved. Rollering the sandwich against glass gives a nice smooth result. ... I'm conflicted. The...
Jay Turberville
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Jul 3, 2009
7:34 pm

... Sure! Send 'em on down the line. I'll drag the sled over 'em! Still... sounds like experimenting was fun... Cheers! Larry "Boneman" Bone Dingmans Ferry,...
Larry Bone
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Jul 3, 2009
10:53 pm

... OK. I think I'll send you one of everything I have. Can you test if the rubber is still attached to a racket? I don't want to remove the Leyland rubber....
Jay Turberville
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Jul 4, 2009
3:37 am

... Absolutely! ... And risk damaging it???? NO WAY!!!! I shall treat it as if it were a Museum Piece! ... Yes... more consistent "incoming" shots for sure. ...
Larry Bone
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Jul 4, 2009
12:53 pm

Larry and Jay: If it might be of interest (and assuming you haven't already seen it), there is a magnified scan of Original Leyland on the Yahoo HatdBat site ...
John Grinnell
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Jul 2, 2009
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... Thanks. That looks like what I have on my Tim Wright blade. I added some close-ups of Dr Evil and PeaceKeeper OX to the file sections for comparison...
Jay Turberville
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