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hardbat · A discussion forum for topics relating to classic-style hardbat table tennis

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  • Category: Table Tennis
  • Founded: Dec 30, 2000
  • Language: English
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This discussion group is intended for players, fans, and supporters of classic hardbat table tennis, as it was played throughout the world until the 1950's. The term "hardbat" refers to the type of paddle that is used. A "normal" modern sponge-rubber paddle consists of a wood or carbon paddle covered on either side by a thin layer of soft sponge and then a smooth, sticky rubber hitting surface. This sponge-rubber surface allows a skilled player to generate large amounts of spin and speed when hitting the ball. A hardbat paddle does not have a soft layer of sponge between the wood of the paddle and the rubber hitting surface. Further, the rubber hitting surface is pimpled and is not nearly as sticky. Players who use a hardbat can only generate a small amount of spin when hitting the ball. For most players, the speed at which the ball is hit is reduced slightly when compared to a sponge-rubber paddle.

When played with hardbats, the game of table tennis is significantly different than when played with the modern "sponge rubber." Since a hardbat can only generate a small amount on spin on the ball, much of the deception of the modern sponge-rubber game is removed, and the opponent's control of the return shot is enhanced. The advantage to the server is diminished considerably without the high amounts of spin. The classic hardbat game therefore tends to have longer rallys, is much more interesting to watch to the average spectator, and is also easier to begin learning since novice players cannot as easily be deceived by tricky spin serves and strange ball bounces off of the table (also due to excessive spin).

Supporters of classic hardbat table tennis generally think that the hardbat game is more fun!

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Re: surprises in Sacramento
I've had several students who use a two handed backhand -- all active tennis players. Hard to talk them out of it, but it of course limits their table tennis
Posted - Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:29 pm
David Kent
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Re: surprises in Sacramento
A two handed backhand. Wow... that's hard to imagine even. But after you mentioned the "teardrop" shaped bat, I got to thinking my antique Parker Bros. set
Posted - Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:13 pm
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Re: surprises in Sacramento
I remember that Kusangloob said 40 mm balls broke when played with sandpaper. One evening at the Cleveland club a couple of guys played some sandpaper matches
Posted - Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:05 pm
dnorman
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Re: surprises in Sacramento
By the way, at the end of the day, not a single 38mm ball was cracked. After four solid hours of play on six tables, even using hardbats, all six balls were
Posted - Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:01 am
Lobo
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surprises in Sacramento
The Sacramento hardbat fest was a big success, and had some surprises. We had 13 players from Sacramento and the Bay Area. Top seeds were Ted Chen (2065),
Posted - Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:09 pm
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