1990 Freedom Ryder

Great starter bike in good condition.  First generation Freedom
Ryder with bucket seat and dampener to adjust play in steering.
Eighteen gears with an easy-to-use shifter and central hand brake.
Can be put on a standard bike trainer for indoor use, unlike the new
Freedom Ryder handcycles.

Weight – Approx. 34 lbs
Quick release rear wheels
Wheel base adjustable up to 6 inches
White


This bike selling on Ebay, auction ending Sept. 11.
Go to Ebay and search for "handcycle".

Thanks,

Susan

Handcyclist:

Hi, I'm moving to the Birmingham area (specifically Homewood/Vestavia Hills
area) to do a strength and conditioning internship at Lakeshore Foundation's
Paralympic Training Center.  I'm looking for any handcyclist in the area?  I
scoped out a nice bike path in Homewood that goes by Samford University with
alot of chicks.....lol!  Also, I will be heading up a handcycling program at the
Lakeshore Foundation.....we have a bunch of upright handcycles available at the
center, so, if anyone is interested please feel free to e-mail me!  Hopefully, I
can get a group of guys together to do some longer training rides but right now
my main focus is getting some younger kids on the bikes in the HUGE fieldhouse
at the center, it has a 200 meter MONDO surface indoor track!  It's an excellent
facility to just get some kids on bikes and let them pedal around amongst the
safety of the indoors!

Yours in Sport,
Warren


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here is the link for some of the 9 minute video I have from the Wheeled
Marathon in Rodderdam. You will have a blast at this event. I can't wait to see
a
race like this   with this many people in the USA.

http://homepage.mac.com/armstrongsports/reality/iMovieTheater16.html

Thanks to Craig Blanchette for bringing over his digital cameras and getting
people to shoot this video, for the radios we used to compete and work
together as a team, and friendship we created from the ashes of adversaries.
I'll
never forget seeing the twin towers fall that afternoon in the train station in
Zurich, the horror we felt as Americans and the comfort we found in each other
as an American Team.

Michel


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Greg,
What a really great idea!!! You are so right about the
century ride. I did one 3 years ago in Rhode Island
and it's a ride I'll remember for a life time. I was
fortunate enough to ride it with two other
handcyclists.
I haven't actually compiled my mileage but the first
handcycle I owned had 5,000 miles on it when I got the
new Pro and it has 9,000 miles on it now. So I guess
I'm celebrating at least 14,000 miles.That covers
about 6 years and two of those years I had 4 cardiac
procedures and a double bypass  so my annual mileage
has been effected by that. I am also very fortunate
because I live in Southern California and ride year
round.
I haven't been shooting for any particular annual
mileage but I do 75 - 100 miles a week. And I'm 60
years old.

--- goneridn <ride24@...> wrote:

> Hi all..Hope that everyone is still riding as the
> summer winds
> down...
>
> How about setting a goal at tackling a century this
> fall.  All this
> talk of racing and I wonder if everyone forgets one
> of the great
> joys of cycling, A Century...100 miles in a single
> day...Just for
> teh rfun of it...No racing, just covering the miles
> and sharing an
> advneture with fellow cyclist.  There are plenty
> around the country
> this fall...You have time to get ready so Go for
> it...
>
> I have been compliling all my ride data and have
> calculated my
> lifetime mileage...I am still putting together a few
> months of data,
> but have realized that I crossed the 20,000 mile
> mark...I was
> excited.  Not bad for riding around town...lol..I
> seem to ride
> between 2,000-3,000 miles per year on an average.
>
> So, I was curious at what others are doing out
> there.  What kind of
> annual mileage are you doing?  What about lifetime?
>
> Ride On...Greg
>
>




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I'm definitely a newbie here and my mileage is still unknown;) I
started riding a bike a month ago.
As able bodied cyslist I was making some 5-6.000km. per season on
the roads of Bulgaria - The country I live in.

Cheers,
Vladski


--- In handcycling@yahoogroups.com, "goneridn" <ride24@b...> wrote:
> Hi all..Hope that everyone is still riding as the summer winds
> down...
>
> How about setting a goal at tackling a century this fall.  All
this
> talk of racing and I wonder if everyone forgets one of the great
> joys of cycling, A Century...100 miles in a single day...Just for
> teh rfun of it...No racing, just covering the miles and sharing an
> advneture with fellow cyclist.  There are plenty around the
country
> this fall...You have time to get ready so Go for it...
>
> I have been compliling all my ride data and have calculated my
> lifetime mileage...I am still putting together a few months of
data,
> but have realized that I crossed the 20,000 mile mark...I was
> excited.  Not bad for riding around town...lol..I seem to ride
> between 2,000-3,000 miles per year on an average.
>
> So, I was curious at what others are doing out there.  What kind
of
> annual mileage are you doing?  What about lifetime?
>
> Ride On...Greg

Hi all..Hope that everyone is still riding as the summer winds
down...

How about setting a goal at tackling a century this fall.  All this
talk of racing and I wonder if everyone forgets one of the great
joys of cycling, A Century...100 miles in a single day...Just for
teh rfun of it...No racing, just covering the miles and sharing an
advneture with fellow cyclist.  There are plenty around the country
this fall...You have time to get ready so Go for it...

I have been compliling all my ride data and have calculated my
lifetime mileage...I am still putting together a few months of data,
but have realized that I crossed the 20,000 mile mark...I was
excited.  Not bad for riding around town...lol..I seem to ride
between 2,000-3,000 miles per year on an average.

So, I was curious at what others are doing out there.  What kind of
annual mileage are you doing?  What about lifetime?

Ride On...Greg

The Wichita KS Marathon is October 17th. There will be
a single Hand Cycle Class. The race will start in
Derby(suburb of Wichita) after passing through Derby
we will ride through several miles of beautiful
country side before entering McConnell Air Force Base.
We will ride through much of the base including
Memorial Lane and under a B47 and KC135. Exiting the
base riders will continue down senic streets and into
the heart of Wichita. The last few miles are through
the downtown area and into "Old Town" for a
spectacular finnish at the lights and fountains of Old
Town Plaza.

The HC division will have a cash pay out for 1st, 2nd
and 3rd place providing we have enough entrants. Cash
prizes for the HC Class spnsored by WSI.

If you can make this race please come out and support
handcycling. We need to build the sport in this area.

This is a recent development and the HC division is
not on the standard entry. I have been asked to
collect entrys and submit them as a group. Also I will
need your estamated finnish time asap as our start
times must be staged so that entry to the AFB is
accessable. We have only a small window of time and
the base will not open early for any participant.

If interested Contact:
James Watson
620-222-4592
Wheel_e1961@...




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Vlady,

Cadence has always been a big question mark with me?  Some people like to spin
and push smaller gear combinations and some, like me, feel more comfortable
pushing big gears with a slower cadence.  The "rule of thought" is to use a
cadence of 60-80 rpm for handcyclist.  Obviously, if you are using lower gears
with a higher cadence you are not quite expending as much energy as you would
pusing higher gears.  I think this whole concept really goes back to Carmicheal
Training Systems and the way he trains Lance Armstrong....Lance uses a very high
cadence and people seem to try this, I guess, b/c he does.....and wins!  On the
otherhand if your watching other cyclists such as Jan Ulrich he uses a
relatively low cadence and pushes big gears and wins, also....(just not the
Tour).  Question is which is better?  I dont know, I think it's a preference
thing and whatever is your strength....if you are a power guy your going to tend
to have a lower cadence pushing bigger gears.....endurance guys
  may have higher cadence.  I think you do need to set a medium even if you are a
power guy.....train 1 day with your normal cadence and go hard, all out...the
next training session ride with a higher cadence but not so fast, this does 2
things:  1) spinning at a higher cadence but slower speeds will help clear the
lactic acid out of your muscles from your previous more intense training session
2) your muscle memory will adapt to training at this higher cadence and will
over time carry over into your more intense training sessions and you will
notice your cadence increasing all the time, no matter what training session
your in!

If your training 12-13 km 3 times a week with a 10 km flat and 2-3 km hill.....I
suggest, for instance....1 day to be hard just all out at your normal cadence,
kinda like a time trial....Then your next training session should be high
cadence slower speed for recovery....Your 3rd training session will be
intervals.....10km flat @ your normal speed and when you get to the hill go all
out up the hill for 2-4 repetitions.  Use your time coasting back down the hill
for recovery and then repeat the climb at all out intervals 2-3 more times. 
Then preferrably, you would want to add another day where you just spin at a
high cadence for 20-25 km for active recovery and to adapt your body for
utilizing it's fat stores to burn for energy plus remember this helps in
increasing your overall cadence thru muscle memory and flushing the lactic acid
from your previous training session.

I hope this helps!

Warren

Âëàäèìèð Ãþðîâ <vl_gyurov@...> wrote:
OK Guys,

I'd like to ask you somethign as I see you're really experts in
handcycling.
I got my bike recently(a month ago). It's a Quickie Spirit 470.
I was a cyclist before my accident.
I'm a T3-T4 para with no movement and sensation from the waste down.

So I started riding my bike 2-3 times a week in the evening riding
it mainly on flat roads and with climbing one hill at the end of my
riding in the one direction (I ride flat some 10km and than 2-3km
hill and than back home).
But I noticed that I feel much much better pushing the bike on
higher gear 48teeth front gear and 11 teeth rare one...well it's
27th speed. My bike has 3x9 speeds SRAM 9.0

So I feel much better when pushing at higher gear but with lower rpm
than pushing on lower gear with higher rpm. My hands start aching at
those high rpm.

I can push at 60-70rpm for at least 40km without problem with an
average speed 12-16km/h depending on the road.

So what's your opinion about that?
I'm also playing wheelchair tennis so I've the endurance from there
and I also do push ups at home and other exercises.

And also I'll be very happy if you give me an advice on how to
arrange my trainings so I could start eventually compete next year.

I'm 185cm tall and I'm 73-75kg weight and this weight is steady no
getting heavier or much lighter.

Thank You very much in advance,
Regards,
Vlady


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OK Guys,

I'd like to ask you somethign as I see you're really experts in
handcycling.
I got my bike recently(a month ago). It's a Quickie Spirit 470.
I was a cyclist before my accident.
I'm a T3-T4 para with no movement and sensation from the waste down.

So I started riding my bike 2-3 times a week in the evening riding
it mainly on flat roads and with climbing one hill at the end of my
riding in the one direction (I ride flat some 10km and than 2-3km
hill and than back home).
But I noticed that I feel much much better pushing the bike on
higher gear 48teeth front gear and 11 teeth rare one...well it's
27th speed. My bike has 3x9 speeds SRAM 9.0

So I feel much better when pushing at higher gear but with lower rpm
than pushing on lower gear with higher rpm. My hands start aching at
those high rpm.

I can push at 60-70rpm for at least 40km without problem with an
average speed 12-16km/h depending on the road.

So what's your opinion about that?
I'm also playing wheelchair tennis so I've the endurance from there
and I also do push ups at home and other exercises.

And also I'll be very happy if you give me an advice on how to
arrange my trainings so I could start eventually compete next year.

I'm 185cm tall and I'm 73-75kg weight and this weight is steady no
getting heavier or much lighter.

Thank You very much in advance,
Regards,
Vlady

Good post Warren,
  Good to see some have a method to the madness. This
is pretty much what I recommend to new riders also.
I used to train @ 80-90% all the time. Gung Ho  meat
head thinking. Worked in the gym....mostly.
I'm not a beginner any more and have gotten better at
training and following a plan. But........
Quickest way to prepare for a race? Well quick is not
generally the best,.. but in 2000 I decided to do a
marathon when 15 miles was the longest and the norm
was 7- 10 miles and I decided one week out to do the
race. The race was 26.2 miles on a Sunday and it was
the Saturday a week before. My best avg speed was 9mph
for 10 miles. After talking to an older rider ex-racer
I set on this plan.
Sun 10 miles, Mon 15 miles, Tuesday 20 miles,
Wednesday 25 miles, Thursday as far as I could (32
miles- bonked), Friday 8 miles easy, Saturday no ride,
Sunday 7am warm up for 3miles, 8am race 26.2 miles avg
speed 11.1 mph. I improved 2 mph at over 10 miles
farther.
Not the best plan. Warrens is better if you plan
ahead. But if you are in a pinch....it worked for me.
I will mention I was in pretty good shape from lifting
weights and had ridden a handcycle several months so I
had a lesser chance for injury.

Now I pretty much I follow the Same plan Warren wrote
about only with minor differences based on preference
and convenience. However I do pretty well on the diet
and nutrition end most of the time.
If you want the fat to go and muscle to stay and
recovery to be quick. Eat 1 to 1.5 grams of Protein
for each # of body weight limit simple carbs to pre,
during,and post intense training sessions and steer
clear of refined/processed foods. (this would be on
interval days, hill training days, etc.. Eat plenty of
fibrous and low glycemic carbs(complex)like broccoli,
peppers, zucchini, cucumber, yam, etc.. Be sure to
keep saturated fats low and steer clear of trans-fatty
acids (Called "hydrogenated vegetable oil" in most
"butter" spreads,name brand peanut butters like Jiff,
potato/corn chips, Ramen Noodles and many other
processed foods). Consume good fats like olive,
conola, flax, saflower, sunflower, peanut, etc.
As far as calories that is tough. The best way is to
track your eating habits to see where you are now. If
you are eating clean and are not gaining or losing
weight you are at a "maintenance" level of caloric
intake. If you want to gain or lose then eat 200-400
more calories per day. If you lose more than 2-3 lbs
per week then you will sacrifice muscle as well as
fat. If you gain more than 2-3 lbs per week then you
will gain some fat. These assumptions are made with
the thinking you are training. Any change in
energy(calorie) out put will change your calorie
intake needs. You need to know your body, eat clean as
you can, and exersize with a plan/goal in mind. If you
eat well 90% of the time then the few times you
don't(ie: getting an ice cream with the kids, a
beer/drink with the friend, or the super bowl junk
food fest) you will not get far off track as long as
it doesn't get to be often. Good rule of thumb is 1
out out 10 days you can eat silly if needed but don't
plan it that way.
That is a simplified way to look at nutrition. There
are many schools of thought on diet/nutrition and we
are breaking new ground all the time in our
understanding.
On a side note: I eat like a horse a several days
before an event. Not really crappy but more carbs than
usual and about 500 calories more food in general.
Not sure about the science behind my thinking but it
works for me.


James Watson BS
Business Management
Southwestern College
Exersize Theologist
Nutrition Experimentalist
Home School of Research and Experimentation


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reflects my "official" experties and special
qualifications. ;-)
--- Warren Strickland <warrenstrickland@...>
wrote:

> Handcyclists,
>
> I have noticed a few of the members of the group ask
> about beginning programs for handcycling so you can
> get into racing or in shape.
>
> First, you have to realize you have to have a base.
> That cardio base depends on your lifestyle,
> nutrition, and how much cardio you already do or
> maybe not do.  If your racing, in my opinion you
> need a base of about 250-500 miles of slow riding to
> allow you body to adapt the cardiovascular system to
> burning fat which is your primary source of energy
> for endurance events.  (endurance events being
> anything of 60 minutes or more)  I know 250-500
> miles is a large range but that depends on what type
> of background you have....are you genetically
> altered to be an endurance athlete or a strength
> athlete.  If your more of an endurance type person
> than maybe you only need 250-350 base miles to
> sufficiently acclimate your Beta-Oxidative Energy
> System (Beta-Oxidation is fat metabolism which is
> the primary system of endurance athletes).  On the
> otherhand, if your more of a meat head like myself,
> your body is better adapted for the Phosphagen
> System which is the system responsible for short
> bursts
>  of energy such as sprinting or 1 rep max bench, so,
> we have to put in more base miles to try and alter
> our metabolism to burn fat over the long haul such
> as in handcycling.  This is just a simplistic
> approach to the definition of these two systems but
> you need to understand what system you have to be
> able to get yourself into a program correctly....On
> to the program...
>
> 1st--put in your base miles.  This may take a couple
> of weeks.  It will probably take 2-6 weeks depending
> on what type of metabolism you have.  If you have a
> good base 2 weeks is sufficient for this phase.
> During this phase all you want to do is go out and
> spend 45-60 minutes on the bike a day....Ride slow,
> take the breathing test, you should be able to carry
> on a conversation during all of these rides.  One
> ride a week should be long, dont worry about the
> speed or mileage just spend one day out on the bike
> for 2-2:30 hours, nonstop!  Remeber, dont get your
> HR up to much, not over 60% of your MHR (max heart
> rate).  All you want to do is tap into your fat
> stores and condition the body to use fat for energy!
>  Try to ride 5-6 days a week.....at least, 3 days
> with one long day on weekend.
>
> 2nd--Once you have gotten in your 250-500 base
> miles, your cardiovascular system should be ready
> for more intense training for racing in an event
> probably for most of you a marathon.  The beginner
> should not just try to go out and go hard every day,
> even the elite can't.....Your body has to have rest.
>  Start off Monday with a brisk 5-10 mile ride for
> beginners. (brisk--it's a little harder to carry on
> conversation but you can)  Tuesday-go another 5-10
> miles or 60 minutes and add 3-5 ...30-60 sec
> intervals to where you sprint for the whole
> interval, remember do 3-5 30-60 sec
> sprints.....Wednesday--do your 10-15 miles or 60
> mins but do it at a slower higher rpm pace, so your
> body can recover from the 2 previous
> days.......Thursday...ride 10-15 miles or 60 mins,
> try 3-5 hard effort sprints up hills or some sort of
> incline (maybe use your trainer and set it on hard
> gear to simulate hills)...Friday--easy, slow pace,
> high rpm recovery ride just like
> Wednesday...Saturday....long, slow,
>  preferrably high rpm ride of 120-150
> mins....Sunday...Rest day!
>
> Do this for 4-6 weeks!  After you have reached the
> 6th week depending on how you feel increase all
> rides or mileage by 5-10%!
>
> This is just very basic but it gives you an idea of
> what you need to do to get ready for completeing a
> marathon comfortably with a decent time!  If you
> want to race at a higher level obviously you need to
> add some time and mileage and possibly some weight
> training and most of all proper nutrition!  Along
> with putting in the time on the bike, nutrition is
> probably the 2nd most important
> thing...........Nutrition has always been a problem
> that has nagged me in my racing........Although, my
> diet is better than it has been in the past, it's in
> my opinion, the thing that seperates me from the
> elite riders!
>
> These are just some ideas.  Most of all you have to
> listen to your body.
>
> Warren A. Strickland, Jr.  M.S.
> Exercise Physiologist
> University of Louisiana at Monroe
>
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> ps: both of your replies were exactly the same as the knowledgable
> folks at ALL the bike shops I've ever been too, they all agree with
> you two, but I only wish I could duplicate what y'all have done!
>
> Thanks again...handcycling forever:-)

Well, it's sure not like you haven't tried.  Almost sounds like
someone's put some BAD hoodoo on you.  You ever piss off any
Frenchmen?:-) At least Schraders will work for you.  I don't care
for 'em, but I care for tires that won't roll a lot less.  Ya gotta
do what keeps you rolling.

Michael

Handcyclists,

I have noticed a few of the members of the group ask about beginning programs
for handcycling so you can get into racing or in shape.

First, you have to realize you have to have a base.  That cardio base depends on
your lifestyle, nutrition, and how much cardio you already do or maybe not do. 
If your racing, in my opinion you need a base of about 250-500 miles of slow
riding to allow you body to adapt the cardiovascular system to burning fat which
is your primary source of energy for endurance events.  (endurance events being
anything of 60 minutes or more)  I know 250-500 miles is a large range but that
depends on what type of background you have....are you genetically altered to be
an endurance athlete or a strength athlete.  If your more of an endurance type
person than maybe you only need 250-350 base miles to sufficiently acclimate
your Beta-Oxidative Energy System (Beta-Oxidation is fat metabolism which is the
primary system of endurance athletes).  On the otherhand, if your more of a meat
head like myself, your body is better adapted for the Phosphagen System which is
the system responsible for short bursts
  of energy such as sprinting or 1 rep max bench, so, we have to put in more base
miles to try and alter our metabolism to burn fat over the long haul such as in
handcycling.  This is just a simplistic approach to the definition of these two
systems but you need to understand what system you have to be able to get
yourself into a program correctly....On to the program...

1st--put in your base miles.  This may take a couple of weeks.  It will probably
take 2-6 weeks depending on what type of metabolism you have.  If you have a
good base 2 weeks is sufficient for this phase.  During this phase all you want
to do is go out and spend 45-60 minutes on the bike a day....Ride slow, take the
breathing test, you should be able to carry on a conversation during all of
these rides.  One ride a week should be long, dont worry about the speed or
mileage just spend one day out on the bike for 2-2:30 hours, nonstop!  Remeber,
dont get your HR up to much, not over 60% of your MHR (max heart rate).  All you
want to do is tap into your fat stores and condition the body to use fat for
energy!  Try to ride 5-6 days a week.....at least, 3 days with one long day on
weekend.

2nd--Once you have gotten in your 250-500 base miles, your cardiovascular system
should be ready for more intense training for racing in an event probably for
most of you a marathon.  The beginner should not just try to go out and go hard
every day, even the elite can't.....Your body has to have rest.  Start off
Monday with a brisk 5-10 mile ride for beginners. (brisk--it's a little harder
to carry on conversation but you can)  Tuesday-go another 5-10 miles or 60
minutes and add 3-5 ...30-60 sec intervals to where you sprint for the whole
interval, remember do 3-5 30-60 sec sprints.....Wednesday--do your 10-15 miles
or 60 mins but do it at a slower higher rpm pace, so your body can recover from
the 2 previous days.......Thursday...ride 10-15 miles or 60 mins, try 3-5 hard
effort sprints up hills or some sort of incline (maybe use your trainer and set
it on hard gear to simulate hills)...Friday--easy, slow pace, high rpm recovery
ride just like Wednesday...Saturday....long, slow,
  preferrably high rpm ride of 120-150 mins....Sunday...Rest day!

Do this for 4-6 weeks!  After you have reached the 6th week depending on how you
feel increase all rides or mileage by 5-10%!

This is just very basic but it gives you an idea of what you need to do to get
ready for completeing a marathon comfortably with a decent time!  If you want to
race at a higher level obviously you need to add some time and mileage and
possibly some weight training and most of all proper nutrition!  Along with
putting in the time on the bike, nutrition is probably the 2nd most important
thing...........Nutrition has always been a problem that has nagged me in my
racing........Although, my diet is better than it has been in the past, it's in
my opinion, the thing that seperates me from the elite riders!

These are just some ideas.  Most of all you have to listen to your body.

Warren A. Strickland, Jr.  M.S.
Exercise Physiologist
University of Louisiana at Monroe


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Maybe it's not the valves.  Maybe it's the pump you're
using.  I've used both Prestas and Schrader's and
can't say that I can tell the difference in either.
Depending upon the temperature extremes, you will have
to pump up your tires more or less times, since they
do lose air.

HOWEVER, the pump you are using should be able to
handle way beyond 60 psi.  I've got a portable
compressor purchased at Home Depot made by Campbell
Hausfeld.  I have owned 2 of these in 10 years, paying
about $45 for each.  You can use the charge pack or
the car lighter.  They can handle 230 psi easily and
you won't have them dying out on you.  That is unless
you don't recharge it.  I highly recommend the
investment.  They are worth their weight in gold.

Just my 2 cents.

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air'd up with Schrader[normal]air pumps.

They all leak!  I don't have much of a problem at the gas station
where they have a big compressor to pump the air, but I have 3 GREAT
air pumps, 2 battery pack and 1 cigarette lighter powered and NONE
of them can put in over 60psi without going DEAD!

So,I go to the bike shop, buy NEW Presta connectors, screw them on,
only to be greatly dissappointed once again!

This has been going on for over a decade now, so it'll be Schraders
til I can figure out how to pump the required 115psi+ into my
wheelchairs/handcycles....

ps: both of your replies were exactly the same as the knowledgable
folks at ALL the bike shops I've ever been too, they all agree with
you two, but I only wish I could duplicate what y'all have done!

Thanks again...handcycling forever:-)

> Been using Presta valves for at least six years over
> 13,000 miles without a problem. Sorry for your
> troubles, but you use what works for you.
> Dale

Same here, Dale.  Prestas for ALL my tubes, wheelchairs AND
handcycle.  Same when I was still able to ride a road bike.  All my
bikes had Prestas.  Twenty years of Prestas for four bikes (LOTS of
tubes & tires), no problems ever because of the valves.

Presta advantages:  (1) lighter, (2) empty and fill faster, so
facilitate tire changes faster whether you're running clinchers or
sewups, (3) capable of handling higher tire pressures, (4) When was
the last time you lost a valve core out of a Presta?

Schrader advantages:

Gary: I'll grant you that Prestas can be a little tricky, but if you
ever get past your hassles with them, you'll never go back to
Schraders.

Just my opinion.  I use an electric pump that plugs into the lighter
on my car.  I got it at Big Lots for ten bucks.  With a $2 adapter
that you can get at any pro bike shop it works fine for filling my
tires.  Takes about 45 seconds to fill them to 110 psi.

In general, even if your tubes are "healthy" they'll lose up to 10
psi a week regardless of what valves you use.  It's the butyl rubber
the tube's made of, not the valve.

Michael

Gary,
Been using Presta valves for at least six years over
13,000 miles without a problem. Sorry for your
troubles, but you use what works for you.
Dale
--- Gary <cwthe3rd@...> wrote:

> Never had a Presta that didn't leak!
>
> Never had a Shrader that I couldn't use one of those
> portable
> battery air units to work just great!
>
> Never had a Presta that I could EVER get the
> required amount of air
> in without the battery pack going DEAD long before
> that happened!
>
> ALWAYS had to go to the gas station to get air for
> ANY tire with a
> Presta valve in it!
>
> ps: I don't like Presta valves!!!
>
>




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Never had a Presta that didn't leak!

Never had a Shrader that I couldn't use one of those portable
battery air units to work just great!

Never had a Presta that I could EVER get the required amount of air
in without the battery pack going DEAD long before that happened!

ALWAYS had to go to the gas station to get air for ANY tire with a
Presta valve in it!

ps: I don't like Presta valves!!!

Hi All,
   Here are the final results for Sadlers Ultra Chalenge:

First Place Mens C Handcycle Divison, Alejandro Albor
Second Place Mens C Handcycle Division, Seth Arseneu
Third Place Mens C Handcycle Division, Elmar Sternath
Fourth Place Mens C Handcycle Divison, Mario Farfan

First Place Mens B Handcycle Division, Matt Updike
Second Place Mens B Handcycle Division, Peer Bartels
Third Place Mens B Handcycle Division, David Abrutat
Fourth Place Mens B Handcycle Divison, Scott Davidson

First Place Mens Wheelchair Division, Tony Iniguez
Second Place Mens Wheelchair Division, James Lilly
Third Place Mens Wheelchair Devision, Yevgeniy Tetyukhin

First Place Womens Handcycle Division, Monica Bascio
Second Place Womens Handcycle Division, Colette Bourgonje
Third Place Womens Handcycle Division, Linda Hamilton

Carrie

Ron,

Thanks for the update and I will mark the Seattle Marathon down on my
calender...I will be there!

Later,
Warren

Ron <r.bajadali@...> wrote:
We will be using the Seattle Marathon for our event with a cash
prize. The Sea Marathon is on Nov. 27, 2004. I know!! My knee tells
me it will be a great day for a race. We're having a cash prize for
local members and out of town riders. We don't have an amount now but
know it will have to worth comiing to Seattle.

Warren, there were several posts on the cancellation and update of
our events. I know it's hard to follow something published as it gets
lost in the heap of others. So, I created a Club News Updates section
to our web site's Welcome Page. We also have our Rides and Events
Page that we try to keep current. Here is the UR: www.nwhcclub.com.

I talked to Ian last week when we were trying to have the Nationals
in Seattle. There was a backup location that I'm sure we'll be
hearing about shortly.

Thanks,

Ron


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<warrenstrickland@y...> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I don't know what's up......I know the championships were suppose
to be held in Elgin but that deal fell through, so, I havent heard
anything else.  I dont know exactly who is keeping up with things.
Ian is up in Alaska at the SMSUC......The next race with prize money
I know for certain will be the Detroit Marathon in October.  This
race is not on the USHF calender, I dont think, but b/c they are
offering prize money.....I'm going to support the race and go do it,
hopefully, if there is a good contingent as it has been the last
couple of years they will continue offering prize money!  The only
other race btw now and then is the race that they are holding up in
the Northwest for the Northwest Handcycling Club......I was told
there was going to be a race that conincided with Mike Utley's
Dam2Dam ride but I think that has fell through with the NWHC.....so,
I don't know exactly when their race is going to be!   Ron Bajadali,
if you could chime in on what's up with your race up there, I
>  would appreciate it b/c I would like to make it up there!  As far
as any other news, there hasn't really been any this year other than
the guys that made the Paralympic team and the SMSUC that is
currently underway!  That's all I've heard......
>
> It kinda sucks b/c everything has really been unorganized this
year!!  At this pace, the racing will never come close to what it has
in Europe!
>
> I was planning on trying to do the Rotterdam on Wheels marathon in
Sept. overseas but I don't know if I'm going to do it or not.
>
> Later,
> Warren
>
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We will be using the Seattle Marathon for our event with a cash
prize. The Sea Marathon is on Nov. 27, 2004. I know!! My knee tells
me it will be a great day for a race. We're having a cash prize for
local members and out of town riders. We don't have an amount now but
know it will have to worth comiing to Seattle.

Warren, there were several posts on the cancellation and update of
our events. I know it's hard to follow something published as it gets
lost in the heap of others. So, I created a Club News Updates section
to our web site's Welcome Page. We also have our Rides and Events
Page that we try to keep current. Here is the UR: www.nwhcclub.com.

I talked to Ian last week when we were trying to have the Nationals
in Seattle. There was a backup location that I'm sure we'll be
hearing about shortly.

Thanks,

Ron


--- In handcycling@yahoogroups.com, Warren Strickland
<warrenstrickland@y...> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I don't know what's up......I know the championships were suppose
to be held in Elgin but that deal fell through, so, I havent heard
anything else.  I dont know exactly who is keeping up with things.
Ian is up in Alaska at the SMSUC......The next race with prize money
I know for certain will be the Detroit Marathon in October.  This
race is not on the USHF calender, I dont think, but b/c they are
offering prize money.....I'm going to support the race and go do it,
hopefully, if there is a good contingent as it has been the last
couple of years they will continue offering prize money!  The only
other race btw now and then is the race that they are holding up in
the Northwest for the Northwest Handcycling Club......I was told
there was going to be a race that conincided with Mike Utley's
Dam2Dam ride but I think that has fell through with the NWHC.....so,
I don't know exactly when their race is going to be!   Ron Bajadali,
if you could chime in on what's up with your race up there, I
>  would appreciate it b/c I would like to make it up there!  As far
as any other news, there hasn't really been any this year other than
the guys that made the Paralympic team and the SMSUC that is
currently underway!  That's all I've heard......
>
> It kinda sucks b/c everything has really been unorganized this
year!!  At this pace, the racing will never come close to what it has
in Europe!
>
> I was planning on trying to do the Rotterdam on Wheels marathon in
Sept. overseas but I don't know if I'm going to do it or not.
>
> Later,
> Warren
>
>
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Scott,

I don't know what's up......I know the championships were suppose to be held in
Elgin but that deal fell through, so, I havent heard anything else.  I dont know
exactly who is keeping up with things.  Ian is up in Alaska at the
SMSUC......The next race with prize money I know for certain will be the Detroit
Marathon in October.  This race is not on the USHF calender, I dont think, but
b/c they are offering prize money.....I'm going to support the race and go do
it, hopefully, if there is a good contingent as it has been the last couple of
years they will continue offering prize money!  The only other race btw now and
then is the race that they are holding up in the Northwest for the Northwest
Handcycling Club......I was told there was going to be a race that conincided
with Mike Utley's Dam2Dam ride but I think that has fell through with the
NWHC.....so, I don't know exactly when their race is going to be!   Ron
Bajadali, if you could chime in on what's up with your race up there, I
  would appreciate it b/c I would like to make it up there!  As far as any other
news, there hasn't really been any this year other than the guys that made the
Paralympic team and the SMSUC that is currently underway!  That's all I've
heard......

It kinda sucks b/c everything has really been unorganized this year!!  At this
pace, the racing will never come close to what it has in Europe!

I was planning on trying to do the Rotterdam on Wheels marathon in Sept.
overseas but I don't know if I'm going to do it or not.

Later,
Warren


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Hello racers!   Is this sport dead or what????  We had more races 2 years
ago.  Well at least I only spent 200 $  on my ticket to the championship in
Elgin IL. <SMILE>


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Here is a link to the SMSUC results through stage 2:
http://www.ktuu.com/special/ultra_challenge/index.asp

Look's like Alejandro will run away with the HCC division barring no injury or
mishaps.  2nd and 3rd place will be a battle btw Arseneau and a guy from
Netherlands.....HCB, hopefully, will be Updike but the guy from overseas times
are not to far off but Matt should be able to hold him off......Monica Bascio,
of course, is running away with the female division.....Iniguez is in control of
the wheelchair division!

You guys keep up with this race, it's a really awesome event....I wished I would
of been able to go back this year....!  Hopefully, next year!

Carpe Diem,
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Anyone know or have any information about when and where the Nationals are?  I
heard that they would be in Elgin and then someone said "no" then "yes", so, I
dont know!!!

Thanks,
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Hi I am new to the group. I had a chance to try a Quickie Mach 2, 3
Speed.  It was a friend of a friend kind of deal.  I had it for about
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