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Re: [guntotingliberals] News Article-Criminalizing toy firearms in Dallas, TX

I'm not sure I understand how someone can tell how much something weighs
just by looking at it. My nephew can hold his dad's 1911 just fine, and
he's only ten years old.

In daylight, if a cop isn't "surprised" by the kid in question, then
maybe. At night, in a low light situation.....cop turns the corner and
there's a kid holding what looks to be a semi-auto pistol pointed at the
cop's head....

Observant or not, I'm not sure how I'd react in that situation. I've
attached a picture of a toy gun available online for $9.95. In full
daylight, sure its a toy. At night.....

Point is, little kids are getting shot, and people want to do something
about it. I may not agree with the way they're going about it, but I
understand why they're doing it. The world is different these days.
When I was young, there weren't many kids (if any) who would shoot
cops. Now there are plenty of 'em.

So, what do we do? What this country needs to do is start moving BACK
to the personal responsibility paradigm, and away from these ill fated
attempts to ensure our personal safety by removing our freedoms through
legislation. Its just the way people are used to dealing with things
these days. Its dangerous? Pass a law. Outlaw smoking, outlaw riding
a motorcycle without a helmet, outlaw gun ownership....make everything
that could possibly threaten anyone illegal and eventually we'll all be
perfectly safe :)

Misguided, but not terribly surprising, as most people take their
freedom for granted these days. They think that because they live in
America, their freedom is guaranteed. Unfortunately, most of them have
forgotten what freedom is, and what freedom means.

Okay, stepping down from the soap box....

Brandon

Eric Sowers wrote:

>My initial reaction is that when government officials ban toy guns,
>they don't have enough to do. There's a huge difference between a
>plastic toy and a non-firing replica, primarily in the weight.
>Picture a seven-year-old with a light plastic 1911 or SAA in his hand
>pointing it around, compared to the 2.5 lb. genuine article, and if a
>cop can't tell the difference at a glance he's not a very observant cop.
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>Besides that, how do they intend to enforce it? "Lady, we have a
>search warrant because we have a reliable report from the neighbors
>that your eight-year-old has a cap pistol." And the shame of
>conviction. What about the ubiquitous Daisy? What IS a prohibited
>toy gun, anyway? Just how MUCH like the genuine article does it have
>to be to land the kid in juvenile court, the parents in the hoosegow,
>etc.? For example, if it looks like a cross between a 1911 and, say,
>a Glock, but even at a glance is obviously neither one, is it also
>prohibited? What does it need to be a banned toy gun? Is it
>sufficient if it has a barrel and a handle? So on and so forth.
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>Funny thing is, prior to 1986 you could order a surplus Government
>Model through the mail and all you had to do was check the block that
>said "I am over 21 years old." The murder rate was lower, per
>capita, than it is now.
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>On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Brandon.Chase@... wrote:
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>>That's a tough one. I had a toy Colt SAA when I was a kid as well, but
>>those were different days. Back then if a kid had what looked like a
>>gun, it was almost certainly a toy. These days....
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>>Seems like I'm always hearing stories about kids bringing guns to
>>school, shooting other kids, etc.....so that does raise the
>>question of
>>what a cop should do if confronted with a kid holding what looks
>>like a gun.
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>>In a perfect world, people would take responsibility for teaching
>>their
>>kids about firearms (and what can happen if you point a fake one at a
>>cop), but this ain't a perfect world, and there's a whole lotta stupid
>>people (and kids) out there.
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>>Hard to say. I'm still not decided.
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>>Brandon
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Damn. This caught me by surprise. I grew up with a bunch of toy firearms and related items...a bunch of Colt SAA, a Thompson submachine gun, a 1911, a US Army...
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That's a tough one. I had a toy Colt SAA when I was a kid as well, but those were different days. Back then if a kid had what looked like a gun, it was almost...
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My initial reaction is that when government officials ban toy guns, they don't have enough to do. There's a huge difference between a plastic toy and a...
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I'm not sure I understand how someone can tell how much something weighs just by looking at it. My nephew can hold his dad's 1911 just fine, and he's only ten...
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