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Re: [guntotingliberals] Re: Software over hardware

Thanks. R.M.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Roy <r@...> wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with the exact details, but pretty much every
> revolver but an exact replica of something old will have some sort of
> try-not-to-fire-if-dropped mechanism.
>
> Some (S&Ws?) use a 'rebounding hammer' setup where the hammer backs off
> from the firing pin once you let go of the trigger..
>
>
> Eric Sowers wrote:
> > I believe that all modern revolvers, even the new Colt Peacemakers,
> > come with a transfer bar or some similar system.
> >
> > I've not shot the GP100 but have shot the 686 a lot and it's my
> > favorite handgun, replacing the Colt 1911A1 in that regard.
> >
> >
> > On May 25, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Roger Metzger wrote:
> >
> >
> >> According to Ruger, their "transfer bar" system is designed to prevent
> >> accidental firing from (1) a blow to the back of the hammer spur (if
> >> the gun
> >> is dropped, for example), (2) accidently dropping the hammer on a
> >> chambered
> >> round (if you are preparing to shoot single-action and your thumb
> >> slips off
> >> the hammer spur, for example or if the hammer spur is accidently
> >> snagged on
> >> something). Can someone please tell me whether the Smith & Wesson 686
> >> and/or other S &W revolvers have a similar safety system? If so,
> >> does it
> >> work essentially the same way as the Ruger system? Have you shot the
> >> GP100
> >> and the 686 so you can give me your impression of the advantages of
> >> each?
> >>
> >> I have owned two CO2 handguns, a PPK replica and a Colt double-
> >> action .357
> >> replica. Both had screw-type tighteners for installing the CO2
> >> cartridges,
> >> but both of the tighteners tended to push the cartridge to one side
> >> enough
> >> to make it difficlut, and eventually impossible, to keep the grip side
> >> panels on the guns. Several years ago, when we were still living in
> >> Utah, I
> >> saw a CO2 handgun with a system that looked like it would prevent this
> >> problem. As I recall, the gun was designed so the pearcing of the CO2
> >> Cartridge occured BEFORE the cartridge was inserrted into the gun.
> >> Does
> >> anyone know which brand or brands of CO2 guns are designed to
> >> prevent the
> >> problem I had with mine? Stores in this part of Michigan don't seem to
> >> stockl CO2 handguns anymore and I haven't been able to find the
> >> information
> >> on the online gunstore sites.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Roger Metzger
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Xela
<julcaesar@...<julcaesar%40excite.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Should go without saying :)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all for their input.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Xela
> >>>
> >>> --- In
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>
> >>>
> >> %40yahoogroups.com>,
> >>
> >>> Roger Metzger <r.metzger44@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks for the tip. I think I'll try that today. R.M.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:52 PM, <Brandon.Chase@...> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I actually had a problem with all my shots grouping from 7-8
> >>>>>
> >> o'clock
> >>
> >>>>> when I first got my glock 19. I cured it with lots of dry fire
> >>>>> practice, but in particular I focused on the "tennis ball
> >>>>>
> >> squeeze" and
> >>
> >>>>> starting my trigger pull from the back of my shooting hand. It
> >>>>>
> >> feels
> >>
> >>>>> strange at first, but I think it helps you squeeze the trigger
> >>>>>
> >> straight
> >>
> >>>>> back instead of jerking it, as I haven't had any problems with
> >>>>>
> >> jerking
> >>
> >>>>> shots since.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 04/22/09 12:03, Xela wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> RE: Dryfire
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could you expand on your exercises? How long do you do it per
> >>>>>>
> >>> session?
> >>>
> >>>>>> How many times a week/month/day? Breathing? Revolver/Auto?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If auto, DA or SA?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've been trying to beat a bad case of the "jerking
> >>>>>>
> >> trigger". Been
> >>
> >>>>>> shooting at 7-8 o'clock at 7 yards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm kinda anal and use snapcaps.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes, always check to make sure it's unloaded :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Xela
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In
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liberals
>
> >>>>>>
> >> %40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >>> <guntotingliberals%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>
> >>>>>>
<mailto:guntotingliberals%40yahoogroups.com<guntotingliberals%2540yahoogroups.co\
m><guntotingliberals
>
> >>>>>>
> >> %2540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >>> <guntotingliberals%2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> "chemsoldier2001"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> <el_jefe99@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe it is because my gun collection has been at the size
> >>>>>>>
> >> it needs
> >>
> >>>>>> to be (though I would always like more), maybe it is because
> >>>>>>
> >> I am in
> >>
> >>>>>> the military, but I have been on a training kick for the
> >>>>>>
> >> last few
> >>
> >>>>>> years. When I first got into guns it was all about the metal
> >>>>>>
> >> (and
> >>
> >>> wood
> >>>
> >>>>>> and polymer) I read lots of reviews and shot lots of
> >>>>>>
> >> different guns
> >>
> >>>>>> and was looking for those 1-4% increases in performance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now I am more into the software side. I train, I compete
> >>>>>>>
> >> (when work
> >>
> >>>>>> allows) and try to attend formalized trianing when
> >>>>>>
> >> circumstances (and
> >>
> >>>>>> money) allow.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Two easy things I would like the advocate to everyone is:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1. Dry fire- Once you know the basics and you have been
> >>>>>>>
> >> shown how
> >>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>>>>> do it right, you can improve dramatically with dry fire
> >>>>>>
> >> practice in
> >>
> >>>>>> your own home. With the exception of rimfires all modern
> >>>>>>
> >> quality
> >>
> >>>>>> handguns can be dry fired thousands and thousands of time
> >>>>>>
> >> with no
> >>
> >>>>>> issues. However if you are anal you can get snap caps. You
> >>>>>>
> >> would be
> >>
> >>>>>> amazed how much you can improve without spending a dime or
> >>>>>>
> >> driving
> >>
> >>>>>> anywhere. Make sure the bloody gun is unloaded!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2. Airsoft- They are not cheap toys anymore. High end
> >>>>>>>
> >> airsoft guns
> >>
> >>>>>> are the same size, controls, some have the same triggers as
> >>>>>>
> >> real
> >>
> >>> guns.
> >>>
> >>>>>> The compact glock airsoft I own is the same size, weight and
> >>>>>>
> >> controls
> >>
> >>>>>> of my carry gun. It fits in the same holsters. I use it in
> >>>>>>
> >> my garage
> >>
> >>>>>> when I want to accuracy check without a range trip. The
> >>>>>>
> >> pellets and
> >>
> >>>>>> gas cost peanuts. A great way to practice perishable skills
> >>>>>>
> >> before
> >>
> >>> you
> >>>
> >>>>>> expend costly ammo at the range. I use it to work on my one
> >>>>>>
> >> handed
> >>
> >>> and
> >>>
> >>>>>> weak handed shooting before I go to the range. Saves me much
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> embarassment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyone else with ideas or techniques to keep to the skills
> >>>>>>>
> >> sharp?
> >>
> >>>>>>
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Maybe it is because my gun collection has been at the size it needs to be (though I would always like more), maybe it is because I am in the military, but I...
chemsoldier2001
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Apr 22, 2009
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I'm no expert. And yes, my wife and I shoot firearms too. There are several advantages to practiing with .177-caliber airguns. Single or mulit-pump...
Roger Metzger
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Apr 22, 2009
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Any gun that shoots is good for marksmanship practice. The pumpable and CO2 pellet guns are good for that. I would also recommend you take a look at the...
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RE: Dryfire Could you expand on your exercises? How long do you do it per session? How many times a week/month/day? Breathing? Revolver/Auto? If auto, DA...
Xela
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Apr 22, 2009
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My favorite drill for trigger control is to balance a coin flat on the front sight and dry-fire without knocking it off....
Roy
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Apr 22, 2009
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Thanks for the comment Roy. I use a dime or a penny :) How long do you do the exercises? How often? Or do you just keep going until fatigue sets in? Xela...
Xela
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Apr 22, 2009
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I don't do much dry-fire anymore since I've managed to develop my skills pretty well (http://www.ipsc.org/matchResult.php?ref=D41577547 ;-) ), but when I was...
Roy
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Apr 22, 2009
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I actually had a problem with all my shots grouping from 7-8 o'clock when I first got my glock 19. I cured it with lots of dry fire practice, but in...
Brandon.Chase@...
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Thanks for the tip. I think I'll try that today. R.M. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Roger Metzger
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Apr 23, 2009
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Should go without saying :) Thanks to all for their input. Regards, Xela...
Xela
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Apr 27, 2009
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On the topic of improving one's shooting, y'all might be interested in a recent slo-mo video of mine on calling shots-- including a nice example of how to spot...
Roy
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Apr 27, 2009
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According to Ruger, their "transfer bar" system is designed to prevent accidental firing from (1) a blow to the back of the hammer spur (if the gun is dropped,...
Roger Metzger
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May 25, 2009
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I recently bought a Laserlyte LT-1 which will project a steady red laser dot for sighting in any firearm from .17 to .50 caliber. Also, it can be set to pick...
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I believe that all modern revolvers, even the new Colt Peacemakers, come with a transfer bar or some similar system. I've not shot the GP100 but have shot the...
Eric Sowers
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May 26, 2009
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Thanks. R.M. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Roger Metzger
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Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with the exact details, but pretty much every revolver but an exact replica of something old will have some sort of ...
Roy
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Thanks. R.M. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Roger Metzger
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I have a nice CO2 Makarov as seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/safoocat/724521717/ It's just like the firearm version seen here: ...
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