I failed to mention in my last post that while I'm not a great fan of
President Obama, one of his answers deserves our appreciation. With regard
to the so-called pro-life vs. pro-choice debate, he said that such decisions
were "above my pay grade".
Mine too. I'm very nearly as pro-life as anybody AND absoutely
pro-choice about that and almost everything else.
RM

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Eric Sowers <rochefort46@...> wrote:

>
>
> I am a huge Obama fan. I believe he is not nearly as liberal as many
> fear. The single most impressive thing I have heard about his tenure
> so far is his method of resolving the issue of releasing the torture
> memos. His cabinet was split, with Gates (!?) and others urging the
> release, and Podesta and others opposing the release. Obama got both
> groups together in a conference room, and sent them to separate rooms
> to designate one person to represent the side, then they came back in
> and conducted a formal debate. When the last to speak sat down, Obama
> slapped the table and said, "I've decided. Release the memos."
>
> Whether one agrees with the result or not, no one can argue that this
> is a less fair, effective, and intelligent method of resolving a
> difficult issue than we have been using the past eight years.
>
>
> On May 15, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Roger Metzger wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I may be only liberal in the sense of not being willing to use
> > coercion
> > (including government) to impose my political or religious beliefs on
> > others. But I'd like for everyone to think of me as toting a gun,
> > even when
> > I'm not--for obvious reasons. If every adult who doesn't own a gun
> > would
> > take a conceled carry course and get a concealed carry license, it
> > would be
> > harder for criminals to determine who is likely and who is unlikely
> > to be
> > armed.
> > Last evening, three members of our extended family were in another
> > room
> > making jokes about President Obama and trying to outdo each other in
> > laughing at the jokes. I asked them to stop laughing long enough for
> > me to
> > say something. It was what I ahve said about every president since
> > Ike,
> > "Right or wrong, he is still my president."
> > The frist think to like about Mr. Obama is that he is easy to
> > understand. He seems to communicate better than the president who
> > couldn't
> > pronounce nuclear or another president who wasn't sure what is is.
> > I've also read that he is more willing than most politicians to listen
> > to ideas that are outside the box and even those people who disagree
> > with
> > him. If there is anything you dont' want him to do, be sure to write
> > to
> > him. I've already written to him a couple of times with alternative
> > ways to
> > do what he was trying to do. No responses yet that couldn't have
> > been just
> > form letters, but I'd like to believe that he or his aids are
> > reading at
> > least any positive suggestions sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
> > I have suggested that a third political party might be called the
> > Never
> > Again Party. Millions of Americans were willing to wait decades for
> > the
> > trickle-down theory of economics to work. When they ran out of
> > patience,
> > they elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress.
> > The result? Billions of dollars to the very people who had caused the
> > economic problems in the first place!
> > So maybe it is time to decide, Never Again. Is there a way to elect
> > people who care about someone other than the millionairs?
> > Does President Obama's appointment of Eric Holder mean that nothing or
> > almost nothing will be done to prosecute government corruption?
> > My take on the founding fathers of this country is that they
> > didn't expect liberty to exist for long under the new form of
> > government the
> > had created, only the hope that it might exist longer than under
> > other forms
> > of government. They expected that government has such a tendency to
> > contol
> > every aspect of people's lives, if the citizens of this nation
> > really valued
> > liberty, revolution would eventually become necessary. The question
> > now is
> > whether we are willing to let someone else define "shall not be
> > infringed".
> > A California co-ed is credited with making this profound statement,
> > "It
> > is true--The pen is mighter than the sward; But only if you have the
> > courage
> > to pick it up once in a while."
> > R.M.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Josh Greenland <
> joshuag1@... <joshuag1%40mindspring.com>
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > My apologies if you also receive a message with similar if
> > differently
> > > stated content from me. I sent that previous message hours ago but
> > for
> > > some reason it hasn't yet shown up on the list.
> > >
> > > Anyway, now that the whole political scene is very different in some
> > > important ways from what it was since this list was last active, I
> > > wanted to ask your opinions about it.
> > >
> > > I'm doing that because this is the only non-rightist pro-gun online
> > > venue that I know of. (The pro-gun venue I'm mostly on now is
> > typically
> > > right-dominated and when a couple of the gun owners on it said
> > they had
> > > voted for Obama they were attacked in some pretty harsh ways. It's
> > > something that obviously can't be talked about there.)
> > >
> > > I wanted to know what you all think of Obama, not just his gun
> > politics,
> > > but anything about him, his campaign, his actions or
> > administration that
> > > you want to talk about. Or about McCain, Palin and their campaign,
> > the
> > > Republicans in general, the Democrats in general, the current
> > Congress,
> > > whatever you want.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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