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Re: [guntotingliberals] Re: Your thoughts on Obama?

I didn't intend to imply that hunting is the only sporting purpose. I
haven't hunted for 15 years and don't intend to start. In fact,
target shooting, competition shooting, and even plinking are, in my
opinion, sports. This is another example of the importance of words,
where the anti-gun ppl know they can't get past the argument, "What
about the sportsmen?" Their response is to say "sporting = hunting;
ergo, hunting guns good, all other guns bad." Keeping them honest
about it is great, but it's also pretty clever to move the most
aggressively pursued guns from "other" to "hunting." We're going to
need any edge we can muster and every time there is a mass shooting
the first thing I check is the type of gun used, for fear it's an AR
or an AK.


On May 15, 2009, at 4:55 PM, chemsoldier2001 wrote:

>
>
> What will defang the argument that a weapon has no sporting purpose
> is smacking politicians upside the head when they claim that
> "sporting purpose" matters.
>
> We also need to smack upside the head our fellow gun owners who
> claim that sporting purpose matters.
>
> I rarely hunt, I compete as a form of training not sport, the
> majority of my shooting is related to self-defense training and
> informal recreational shooting (aka plinking). I am a shooter not a
> sportsman.
>
> To paraphrase, "They came for the .50 BMG rifles and I did nothing
> for I didnt own a .50 BMG, they came for the centerfire semi-auto
> rifles and I said nothing for I didnt own one...finally they came
> for the single shot shotguns and no one helped me because all the
> other types of gun owners were gone.
>
> --- In guntotingliberals@yahoogroups.com, Eric Sowers
> <rochefort46@...> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think he's even going to mess with the semi-autos. I notice
> > that quite a few manufacturers are making AR's that are specifically
> > designed for hunting medium-sized game, which is good because it
> > defangs the argument that they have no sporting purpose.
> >
>
>
>



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What will defang the argument that a weapon has no sporting purpose is smacking politicians upside the head when they claim that "sporting purpose" matters. We...
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