I am a huge Obama fan. I believe he is not nearly as liberal as many
fear. The single most impressive thing I have heard about his tenure
so far is his method of resolving the issue of releasing the torture
memos. His cabinet was split, with Gates (!?) and others urging the
release, and Podesta and others opposing the release. Obama got both
groups together in a conference room, and sent them to separate rooms
to designate one person to represent the side, then they came back in
and conducted a formal debate. When the last to speak sat down, Obama
slapped the table and said, "I've decided. Release the memos."

Whether one agrees with the result or not, no one can argue that this
is a less fair, effective, and intelligent method of resolving a
difficult issue than we have been using the past eight years.

On May 15, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Roger Metzger wrote:

>
>
> I may be only liberal in the sense of not being willing to use
> coercion
> (including government) to impose my political or religious beliefs on
> others. But I'd like for everyone to think of me as toting a gun,
> even when
> I'm not--for obvious reasons. If every adult who doesn't own a gun
> would
> take a conceled carry course and get a concealed carry license, it
> would be
> harder for criminals to determine who is likely and who is unlikely
> to be
> armed.
> Last evening, three members of our extended family were in another
> room
> making jokes about President Obama and trying to outdo each other in
> laughing at the jokes. I asked them to stop laughing long enough for
> me to
> say something. It was what I ahve said about every president since
> Ike,
> "Right or wrong, he is still my president."
> The frist think to like about Mr. Obama is that he is easy to
> understand. He seems to communicate better than the president who
> couldn't
> pronounce nuclear or another president who wasn't sure what is is.
> I've also read that he is more willing than most politicians to listen
> to ideas that are outside the box and even those people who disagree
> with
> him. If there is anything you dont' want him to do, be sure to write
> to
> him. I've already written to him a couple of times with alternative
> ways to
> do what he was trying to do. No responses yet that couldn't have
> been just
> form letters, but I'd like to believe that he or his aids are
> reading at
> least any positive suggestions sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
> I have suggested that a third political party might be called the
> Never
> Again Party. Millions of Americans were willing to wait decades for
> the
> trickle-down theory of economics to work. When they ran out of
> patience,
> they elected a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress.
> The result? Billions of dollars to the very people who had caused the
> economic problems in the first place!
> So maybe it is time to decide, Never Again. Is there a way to elect
> people who care about someone other than the millionairs?
> Does President Obama's appointment of Eric Holder mean that nothing or
> almost nothing will be done to prosecute government corruption?
> My take on the founding fathers of this country is that they
> didn't expect liberty to exist for long under the new form of
> government the
> had created, only the hope that it might exist longer than under
> other forms
> of government. They expected that government has such a tendency to
> contol
> every aspect of people's lives, if the citizens of this nation
> really valued
> liberty, revolution would eventually become necessary. The question
> now is
> whether we are willing to let someone else define "shall not be
> infringed".
> A California co-ed is credited with making this profound statement,
> "It
> is true--The pen is mighter than the sward; But only if you have the
> courage
> to pick it up once in a while."
> R.M.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Josh Greenland <joshuag1@...
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > My apologies if you also receive a message with similar if
> differently
> > stated content from me. I sent that previous message hours ago but
> for
> > some reason it hasn't yet shown up on the list.
> >
> > Anyway, now that the whole political scene is very different in some
> > important ways from what it was since this list was last active, I
> > wanted to ask your opinions about it.
> >
> > I'm doing that because this is the only non-rightist pro-gun online
> > venue that I know of. (The pro-gun venue I'm mostly on now is
> typically
> > right-dominated and when a couple of the gun owners on it said
> they had
> > voted for Obama they were attacked in some pretty harsh ways. It's
> > something that obviously can't be talked about there.)
> >
> > I wanted to know what you all think of Obama, not just his gun
> politics,
> > but anything about him, his campaign, his actions or
> administration that
> > you want to talk about. Or about McCain, Palin and their campaign,
> the
> > Republicans in general, the Democrats in general, the current
> Congress,
> > whatever you want.
> >
> >
> >
>
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