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Re: [guntotingliberals] Re: Your thoughts on Obama?

I don't think he's even going to mess with the semi-autos. I notice
that quite a few manufacturers are making AR's that are specifically
designed for hunting medium-sized game, which is good because it
defangs the argument that they have no sporting purpose.

Obama wants a second term, and if he goes after guns he'll lose a huge
block of votes from the center.


On May 15, 2009, at 2:12 PM, dick21436 wrote:

>
>
> The US seems to have historically been a knee-jerk reactive society.
> This is a grand opportunity for conservatives because conservatives
> themselves are incapable of doing systems thinking. They cannot
> understand, regardless their apparent intellect, that somehow things
> are interconnected and interrelated. At the same time, this is the
> condition of the public at large. At times this is intellectual
> laziness, at other times it is the result of a flat earth mentality.
> As a social psychologist, I rely on sociology as an assurance that
> the proscription of guns at this late stage would simply leave the
> well-meaning, mind-their-own-business kinds of folks at the mercy of
> an enormous, dangerous and predatory element of our society. I spent
> seven years at various positions in the Ill. Dept. of Corrections
> and, believe me, we have some very dangerous people outside the
> prison walls. The realization that prisons are where we house the
> unsuccessful criminals, and that the rest are simply at large, is
> quite discomforting. When I came to that realization I immediately
> knew that the police are a thin blue line of defense, sometimes as
> corrupt as the villains, and not always on time.
>
> I sincerely hope Obama's only target is assault weapons and their
> ilk and not hunting weapons and handguns. But, I can only hope. He
> does seem to be a reasonable fellow. Also, it appears that the
> Supreme Court is painting the 2nd Amendment with a much broader and
> more meaningful brush. Consequently, any attempt to curb gun rights
> might be met with a denial of such legislation by the Court.
>
> Dick Hudson
>
>
>



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I don't think he's even going to mess with the semi-autos. I notice that quite a few manufacturers are making AR's that are specifically designed for hunting...
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