By the way, here's some info you may already be familiar with. One book you may
find interesting (if quite dated):"Restricting Handguns: The Liberal Skeptics
Speak Out" Edited by Don B. Kates, Jr. We have a review of it around here in
the archives, try the search function at yahoo groups. Also, try to check out
"Armed" by Gary Kleck & Don Kates. Xela--- On Sun 09/09, abel ferreira <
ajferrei@... > wrote:From: abel ferreira [mailto:
ajferrei@...]To: guntotingliberals@...: Sun, 9 Sep 2007
10:10:44 -0700 (PDT)Subject: [guntotingliberals] Just joining



Hi,I'm glad that I found this group. I'm looking forward to be able to have
discussions about guns and not having to fraternize with reactionaries,
espousing the typical right-wing rhetoric; although there is a kernal of truth
to many of their statements.There is an undeserving stigma attached to people
who enjoy shooting. I own guns for many reasons, the least of which being self
defense. I go to the range every weekend and to me it's my form of yoga. I find
it the ultimate zen.What I don't understand is why the left hates guns. Are
these people the mainstream limousine liberals playing on the fears of suburban
soccer moms? It appears so. It for the most part seems like a feel good cause
where the elite can play on the publics' worst fears. Anti-gun rights activists
use identical tactics and propaganda as does the the Christian right. Showing
discarded fetuses in garbage can is the same as trumping up sensationalized
cases of gun violence, as the bombardment of images of
emergency room gunshot victims or Million Mom March blanket statements. Why are
so many people who label themselves as liberals, and who espouse an inherent
mistrust of authority, so willing to forfeit a constitutional right and
surrender themselves to absolute power. Remember it's the Second Amendment that
gives the First Amendment teeth. If you truly want to bow down to tyrany, start
with the banning of guns.The misleading and distorted information can be
exemplified in stories like Columbine or even VT. 3,500 died at the hands of 16
men with Xacto knives, and 160 died from a bomb made with items bought at a
feed-store. In the case Columbine, the shooters were not even old enough to
legally own guns. The means is not the cause of violence. It is as if people
view guns as having this supernatural power over people, in possessing them into
doing violent things. They think an exorcism on society of this demonic force is
to take them out of the hands of everyone, including
law-abiding citizens.If you dig deep into the issue of gun control you will find
to far more nebulous than you ever expected. Ronald Reagan, the messiah of the
right, passed one of the most sweeping gun control laws in modern history, when
serving as governor of California. This law was glaringly obvious in that it was
solely designed to keep guns out of the hands of African Americans during the
height of the Black Panther Movement.I am completely aware that I am preaching
to the choir here, but I hope I have found a group that share my fundamental
beliefs.Next posting I will stick tech geek stuff, like my brand new Springfield
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