I hear that! Well I read that! Like so many things in this world of
politics it seems that logic is absent and rhetoric has become
inflammatory rather than persuasive . I refuse to give up or in, I
will maintain my liberal views and support of all of the Bill of Rights.

Blair

--- In guntotingliberals@yahoogroups.com, abel ferreira <ajferrei@...>
wrote:
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> Hi,
> I'm glad that I found this group. I'm looking forward to be able to
have discussions about guns and not having to fraternize with
reactionaries, espousing the typical right-wing rhetoric; although
there is a kernal of truth to many of their statements.
> There is an undeserving stigma attached to people who enjoy
shooting. I own guns for many reasons, the least of which being self
defense. I go to the range every weekend and to me it's my form of
yoga. I find it the ultimate zen.
> What I don't understand is why the left hates guns. Are these
people the mainstream limousine liberals playing on the fears of
suburban soccer moms? It appears so. It for the most part seems like
a feel good cause where the elite can play on the publics' worst
fears. Anti-gun rights activists use identical tactics and propaganda
as does the the Christian right. Showing discarded fetuses in garbage
can is the same as trumping up sensationalized cases of gun violence,
as the bombardment of images of emergency room gunshot victims or
Million Mom March blanket statements. Why are so many people who label
themselves as liberals, and who espouse an inherent mistrust of
authority, so willing to forfeit a constitutional right and surrender
themselves to absolute power. Remember it's the Second Amendment that
gives the First Amendment teeth. If you truly want to bow down to
tyrany, start with the banning of guns.
> The misleading and distorted information can be exemplified in
stories like Columbine or even VT. 3,500 died at the hands of 16 men
with Xacto knives, and 160 died from a bomb made with items bought at
a feed-store. In the case Columbine, the shooters were not even old
enough to legally own guns. The means is not the cause of violence. It
is as if people view guns as having this supernatural power over
people, in possessing them into doing violent things. They think an
exorcism on society of this demonic force is to take them out of the
hands of everyone, including law-abiding citizens.
> If you dig deep into the issue of gun control you will find to
far more nebulous than you ever expected. Ronald Reagan, the messiah
of the right, passed one of the most sweeping gun control laws in
modern history, when serving as governor of California. This law was
glaringly obvious in that it was solely designed to keep guns out of
the hands of African Americans during the height of the Black Panther
Movement.
> I am completely aware that I am preaching to the choir here, but
I hope I have found a group that share my fundamental beliefs.
> Next posting I will stick tech geek stuff, like my brand new
Springfield Mil Spec 1911.-A
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