Agree with stat comparison. However, Rice played in the expansion stat
distortion era, and was not the all around ballplayer Gil was. And, stats are
the worst way to evaluate a ballplayer. If one uses stats alone compare stats to
own era players.
 
John Matits

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Jim Rice finally in Hall
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:30 PM







Glad Jim got in , now some more comparisons to GIL as homers and RBI are
similar to JIM but Rice had .300 lifetime average----I am glad for Jim
but would be gladder for GIL

BE WELL--CONTINUE THE QUEST

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Glad Jim got in , now some more comparisons to GIL as homers and RBI are
similar to JIM but Rice had .300 lifetime average----I am glad for Jim
but would be gladder for GIL



BE WELL--CONTINUE THE QUEST



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--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, "Ira S."
<sarichef11747@...> wrote:
>MUST CONFESS I DO NOT KNOW CRITERIA OF THIS NEW AWARD BUT I AM SURE
IT IS ON HALL OF FAME WEB SITE--ALSO KEY HERE IS THAT O'NEIL STATED
AT THE HALL IN HIS SPEECH RE SPECIAL NEGRO ELECTION THAT GIL
BELONGED IN THE HALL--SO IT IS ONLY FITTING THAT GIL BE FIRST
RECIPIENT--I HAVE REFERENCE TO O'NEIL SPEECH ON THIS SITE--
ONE THING ABOUT HALL -THEY MAKE THEIR OWN RULES--THEY BLEW NOT
GETTING O'NEIL IN HALL WHEN HE WAS ALIVE--SO CREATED AWARD UNVEILED
WITH O'NEIL STATUE IN 2008 TO COVER THEIR BLOWN SAVE----GOOD POINT
ABOUT CRITERIA---I WILL RESEARCH
THANKS
> do we know what are the criteria for the humanitarian award so
that we can really beef-up our nomination letters?
>
> Ira
>
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/7/09, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [GIL HODGES  HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: Who to write to.
> To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:10 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             Since the present system calls for all living Hall
members to vote
>
> --about 64--there is really no one person to write to---I suggest
>
> writing to Joe Morgan at the hall in Cooperstown- -he is a hall
>
> executive--and suggesting Gil be named the first recipient of the
Buck
>
> O'neil Humanitarian Award --all such recipients go into Hall & Gil
would
>
> be first for O'Neil award--otherwise we wait until 2010 & the vet
>
> committee is 0-4 re getting anyone in.
>
>
>
> --- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, "mgaax60"
<mgaax@>
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Can any one supply me with names/addresses or e-mail addresses of
>
> people to write to
>
> > inorder to get Gil into the hall? Thanx
>
> >
>
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>
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do we know what are the criteria for the humanitarian award so that we can
really beef-up our nomination letters?

Ira

 


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [GIL HODGES  HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: Who to write to.
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:10 PM











             Since the present system calls for all living Hall members to vote

--about 64--there is really no one person to write to---I suggest

writing to Joe Morgan at the hall in Cooperstown- -he is a hall

executive--and suggesting Gil be named the first recipient of the Buck

O'neil Humanitarian Award --all such recipients go into Hall & Gil would

be first for O'Neil award--otherwise we wait until 2010 & the vet

committee is 0-4 re getting anyone in.



--- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, "mgaax60" <mgaax@...>

wrote:

>

> Can any one supply me with names/addresses or e-mail addresses of

people to write to

> inorder to get Gil into the hall? Thanx

>





























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Since the present system calls for all living Hall members to vote
--about 64--there is really no one person to write to---I suggest
writing to Joe Morgan at the hall in Cooperstown--he is a hall
executive--and suggesting Gil be named the first recipient of the Buck
O'neil Humanitarian Award --all such recipients go into Hall & Gil would
be first for O'Neil award--otherwise we wait until 2010 & the vet
committee is 0-4 re getting anyone in.


--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, "mgaax60" <mgaax@...>
wrote:
>
> Can any one supply me with names/addresses or e-mail addresses of
people to write to
> inorder to get Gil into the hall? Thanx
>

Jim,
 
Sorry this is rather late but I'm in the process of moving from SoCal to
Seattle.  Will be there Jan 6th.  Gil's omission from the HOF is just crazy and
I plan to do something about it.  I'll be in touch sometime in January, thanks
for your support.
 
Ron Cromer
Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame

--- On Fri, 12/12/08, danaherjim <jjdanaher@...> wrote:

From: danaherjim <jjdanaher@...>
Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] I am back as well!
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 9:26 PM






I have been quietly monitoring the site for many months, hoping that
everything would eventually work out as it should have. I now see that
more help is needed and I too am more than willing to join in the
effort to correct this injustice. I look forward to seeing what new
activity will be suggested and I will help whenever I can.....

jim danaher


















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Can any one supply me with names/addresses or e-mail addresses of people to
write to
inorder to get Gil into the hall?  Thanx

Count me in to help! I met Mr. Hodgers when I was just a boy of 10. I remember
his kindness, gentle manner and huge hands.Let me know how I can help spread the
word!Martin AxelTo: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@...:
jjdanaher@...: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:26:58 +0000Subject: [GIL HODGES 
HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] I am back as well!


















             I have been quietly monitoring the site for many months, hoping that
everything would eventually work out as it should have. I now see that
more help is needed and I too am more than willing to join in the
effort to correct this injustice. I look forward to seeing what new
activity will be suggested and I will help whenever I can.....

jim danaher

















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--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, "danaherjim"
<jjdanaher@...> wrote:
> YOU ARE NOT ALONE--WE ARE ALL UPSET THAT A NEW 12 MEMBER VET
COMMITTEE GETS SOMEONE IN AT FIRST SHOT AND GIL'S COMMITTEE OF 64 IS
NOW 0-4 CONCLUDING EITHER NO ONE OUT THERE IS GOOD ENOUGH SINCE BILL
MAZOT IN UNDER OLD SYSTEM OR THIS DIVIDE AND CONQUER APPROACH WILL
NEVER ELECT GIL OR ANYONE ELSE. WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE YEARS TO GO
0-5 OR SHOULD WE CALL FOR THE OLD 15 MEMBER TED WILLIAMS VET COMMITTEE
TO BE RE-INSTATED?  WHO KNOWS BUT WE ARE ALL GOING TO WORK ON IT AND
BOMBARD THE HALL WITH MAIL I HOPE.

THANKS FOR JOINING IN THE GIL QUEST


> I have been quietly monitoring the site for many months, hoping that
> everything would eventually work out as it should have. I now see
that
> more help is needed and I too am more than willing to join in the
> effort to correct this injustice. I look forward to seeing what new
> activity will be suggested and I will help whenever I can.....
>
> jim danaher
>

I have been quietly monitoring the site for many months, hoping that
everything would eventually work out as it should have. I now see that
more help is needed and I too am more than willing to join in the
effort to correct this injustice. I look forward to seeing what new
activity will be suggested and I will help whenever I can.....

jim danaher

--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Cromer
<gilhodges4hof@...> wrote:
>Yes I remember you too---use thissite to intoduce usto your site---i
have these members plus 100 more who wish to continue GIl's quest

be well--happy holidays
>
> Joe,
>
> I well remember you as being one of the BEST members of The Committee
To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame.  The thing that makes
me smile about all of this is the labor of love that this involves.
What a wonderful & just cause this is.  You've been doing a terrific job
on behalf of Gil and his family and I appreciate EVERYTHING you have
done.  You know how much I love Gil and I think, as a "family", we need
to step up the fight.  I have several ideas that I would like to run
past everyone.  I'm (finally!) retired now and have LOTS of time
available.
>
> Within the next several days I will give you some of the ideas that I
have.  Gil was such a beautiful man ~ we CAN'T give up on his behalf.
Trust me everyone ~ I KNOW we can change the opinions of MANY HOF
voters.  I can't think of ANYTHING I would rather do than pick up the
fight for Gil's enduction.
>
> I am going to create a website for our effort, will have the info
soon.  God Bless Gil's memory, Gil's family, Gil's Brooklyn Dodgers'
family and all of our efforts on Gil's behalf.  If you thought I fought
hard before ~ wait until this time around.
>
> Merry Christmas to everyone concerned.  We can DO IT if we all try
harder than ever before.
>
> My Very Best,
>
> Ron Cromer
> The Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 12/10/08, bklynbum14 no_reply@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> From: bklynbum14 no_reply@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
AGAIN--12/8/2008
> To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 4:20 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, Ronald Cromer
> <gilhodges4hof@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > To All ~
> >
> > I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of
> Fame, back in 1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's
> cause.  Well folks ~ I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get
> back into the effort.
> >
> > I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about
> Gil.  I understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those
> of us who love Gil and his memory feel equally as strong about all
> of it.
> >
> > Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil
> and I'm JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!! !  It breaks my heart
> to see Mrs. Hodges make comments about her husband.  I'm asking
> EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!! !!
> >
> > I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with
> me?
> >
> > Ron Cromer
> >
> RON I REMEMBER YOU WELL--YOU DID MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ATTEMPT TO GET
> GIL IN--I HAVE TWO OF YOUR GIL JERSEYS AND ONE IS SIGNED BY BRANCA-
> PIGNATANO-SHAMSKY- ----DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO AS THE 64 VOTERS ARE
> HARD TO REACH--BUT MY ANGLE IS TO HAVE GIL NOMINATED FOR THE BUCK
> O'NEIL AWARD--WE CAN ALL WRITE DIRECT TO THE HALL FOR THIS ONE
> AND BUCK'S LAST WORDS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE HALL WERE-"GIL HODGES
> BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME" AND I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE
>
> JOE D'AGOSTIN
> > --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: bklynbum14 no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
> AGAIN--12/8/ 2008
> > To: gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
> > though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet
> committee
> > with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY
> BALL
> > DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
> > Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get
> Gil
> > in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.
> >
> > For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva
> 33
> > and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as
> close
> > as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him
> as I
> > reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
> > berra-snider etc.
> > So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot
> read
> > about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.
> >
> > We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
> > again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
> > shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
> > committee?
> > Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
> > Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
> > HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Joe,
 
I well remember you as being one of the BEST members of The Committee To Elect
Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame.  The thing that makes me smile about
all of this is the labor of love that this involves.  What a wonderful & just
cause this is.  You've been doing a terrific job on behalf of Gil and his family
and I appreciate EVERYTHING you have done.  You know how much I love Gil and I
think, as a "family", we need to step up the fight.  I have several ideas that I
would like to run past everyone.  I'm (finally!) retired now and have LOTS of
time available. 
 
Within the next several days I will give you some of the ideas that I have.  Gil
was such a beautiful man ~ we CAN'T give up on his behalf.  Trust me everyone ~
I KNOW we can change the opinions of MANY HOF voters.  I can't think of ANYTHING
I would rather do than pick up the fight for Gil's enduction.
 
I am going to create a website for our effort, will have the info soon.  God
Bless Gil's memory, Gil's family, Gil's Brooklyn Dodgers' family and all of our
efforts on Gil's behalf.  If you thought I fought hard before ~ wait until this
time around.
 
Merry Christmas to everyone concerned.  We can DO IT if we all try harder than
ever before.
 
My Very Best,
 
Ron Cromer
The Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
AGAIN--12/8/2008
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 4:20 PM






--- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, Ronald Cromer
<gilhodges4hof@ ...> wrote:
>
> To All ~
>  
> I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of
Fame, back in 1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's
cause.  Well folks ~ I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get
back into the effort. 
>  
> I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about
Gil.  I understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those
of us who love Gil and his memory feel equally as strong about all
of it.
>  
> Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil
and I'm JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!! !  It breaks my heart
to see Mrs. Hodges make comments about her husband.  I'm asking
EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!! !!
>  
> I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with
me?
>  
> Ron Cromer
>
RON I REMEMBER YOU WELL--YOU DID MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ATTEMPT TO GET
GIL IN--I HAVE TWO OF YOUR GIL JERSEYS AND ONE IS SIGNED BY BRANCA-
PIGNATANO-SHAMSKY- ----DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO AS THE 64 VOTERS ARE
HARD TO REACH--BUT MY ANGLE IS TO HAVE GIL NOMINATED FOR THE BUCK
O'NEIL AWARD--WE CAN ALL WRITE DIRECT TO THE HALL FOR THIS ONE
AND BUCK'S LAST WORDS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE HALL WERE-"GIL HODGES
BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME" AND I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

JOE D'AGOSTIN
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
AGAIN--12/8/ 2008
> To: gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
> though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet
committee
> with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY
BALL
> DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
> Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get
Gil
> in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.
>
> For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva
33
> and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as
close
> as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him
as I
> reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
> berra-snider etc.
> So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot
read
> about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.
>
> We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
> again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
> shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
> committee?
> Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
> Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>


















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What ever you need.....count me in. We have all waited long enough
for this travesty to be fixed.............Do we needa petition?  I
WILL SIGN!

Donna





--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Cromer
<gilhodges4hof@...> wrote:
>
> To All ~
>  
> I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of
Fame, back in 1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's
cause.  Well folks ~ I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get
back into the effort. 
>  
> I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about
Gil.  I understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those
of us who love Gil and his memory feel equally as strong about all of
it.
>  
> Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil
and I'm JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!!!  It breaks my heart
to see Mrs. Hodges make comments about her husband.  I'm asking
EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!!!!
>  
> I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with
me?
>  
> Ron Cromer
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over AGAIN-
-12/8/2008
> To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
> though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet
committee
> with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY BALL
> DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
> Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get
Gil
> in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.
>
> For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva 33
> and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as
close
> as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him as
I
> reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
> berra-snider etc.
> So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot read
> about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.
>
> We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
> again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
> shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
> committee?
> Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
> Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

whatever I can do to help

Ira

   

--- On Wed, 12/10/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [GIL HODGES  HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
AGAIN--12/8/2008
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 6:20 PM











             --- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, Ronald Cromer

<gilhodges4hof@ ...> wrote:

>

> To All ~

>  

> I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of

Fame, back in 1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's

cause.  Well folks ~ I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get

back into the effort. 

>  

> I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about

Gil.  I understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those

of us who love Gil and his memory feel equally as strong about all

of it.

>  

> Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil

and I'm JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!! !  It breaks my heart

to see Mrs. Hodges make comments about her husband.  I'm asking

EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!! !!

>  

> I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with

me?

>  

> Ron Cromer

>

RON I REMEMBER YOU WELL--YOU DID MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ATTEMPT TO GET

GIL IN--I HAVE TWO OF YOUR GIL JERSEYS AND ONE IS SIGNED BY BRANCA-

PIGNATANO-SHAMSKY- ----DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO AS THE 64 VOTERS ARE

HARD TO REACH--BUT MY ANGLE IS TO HAVE GIL NOMINATED FOR THE BUCK

O'NEIL AWARD--WE CAN ALL WRITE DIRECT TO THE HALL FOR THIS ONE

AND BUCK'S LAST WORDS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE HALL WERE-"GIL HODGES

BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME" AND I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE



JOE D'AGOSTIN

> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

>

> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

> Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over

AGAIN--12/8/ 2008

> To: gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com

> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even

> though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet

committee

> with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY

BALL

> DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in

> Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get

Gil

> in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.

>

> For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva

33

> and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as

close

> as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him

as I

> reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-

> berra-snider etc.

> So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot

read

> about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.

>

> We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then

> again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the

> shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the

> committee?

> Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe

> Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?

> HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY

>

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--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Cromer
<gilhodges4hof@...> wrote:
>
> To All ~
>  
> I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of
Fame, back in 1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's
cause.  Well folks ~ I'M TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get
back into the effort. 
>  
> I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about
Gil.  I understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those
of us who love Gil and his memory feel equally as strong about all
of it.
>  
> Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil
and I'm JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!!!  It breaks my heart
to see Mrs. Hodges make comments about her husband.  I'm asking
EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!!!!
>  
> I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with
me?
>  
> Ron Cromer
>
RON I REMEMBER YOU WELL--YOU DID MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ATTEMPT TO GET
GIL IN--I HAVE TWO OF YOUR GIL JERSEYS AND ONE IS SIGNED BY BRANCA-
PIGNATANO-SHAMSKY-----DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO AS THE 64 VOTERS ARE
HARD TO REACH--BUT MY ANGLE IS TO HAVE GIL NOMINATED FOR THE BUCK
O'NEIL AWARD--WE CAN ALL WRITE DIRECT TO THE HALL FOR THIS ONE
AND BUCK'S LAST WORDS WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE HALL WERE-"GIL HODGES
BELONGS IN THE HALL OF FAME" AND I HAVE THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

JOE D'AGOSTIN
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over
AGAIN--12/8/2008
> To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
> though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet
committee
> with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY
BALL
> DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
> Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get
Gil
> in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.
>
> For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva
33
> and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as
close
> as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him
as I
> reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
> berra-snider etc.
> So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot
read
> about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.
>
> We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
> again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
> shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
> committee?
> Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
> Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY
>
>
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To All ~
 
I formed the Committee To Elect Gil Hodges into Baseball's Hall of Fame, back in
1991, and I believe we did ALOT on behalf of Gil's cause.  Well folks ~ I'M
TIRED OF THIS CRAP and have decided to get back into the effort. 
 
I love Gil and his family.  I've decided to make a statement about Gil.  I
understand the emotions people have for Ron Santo BUT those of us who love Gil
and his memory feel equally as strong about all of it.
 
Joe will back me on this; I've gotten things done on behalf of Gil and I'm
JUMPING BACK IN WITH BOTH FEET!!!!!!!!!  It breaks my heart to see Mrs. Hodges
make comments about her husband.  I'm asking EVERYONE to join me, please!!!!!!!!
 
I promise you 100% of my effort and love and heart.  Are you with me?
 
Ron Cromer

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Hodges passed over AGAIN--12/8/2008
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:02 PM






The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet committee
with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY BALL
DAYS (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get Gil
in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.

For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva 33
and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as close
as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him as I
reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
berra-snider etc.
So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot read
about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.

We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
committee?
Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY


















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The 64 living voters could not elect anyone for the 4th time even
though ballot was reduced to 10 from 20-25. The "older" vet committee
with only 12 voters (a new committee) and similar to the TEDDY BALL
DAYS  (Ted Williams)when I believe there were 12 members voted in
Yankee Joe Gordon. The Hall does what they want--maybe we can get Gil
in under the special BUCK O'NEIL Humanitarian Award.

For what it is worth Santo got 39 votes(61%) then Kaat 38, Oliva 33
and Gil 28-43%. One needs 48 votes---Gil and Santo had been as close
as 7-8 votes. Apparently only players in Gil's era voted for him as I
reviewed all 64 listed and only about 28 are like lasorda-koufax-
berra-snider etc.
So the more current 36 crop either ignore him or simply cannot read
about "the Quiet Man" and his qualities at bat and as a fielder.

We should send them all a book -Praying for Gil Hodges--but then
again maybe they cannot read or maybe Jane Forbes Clark calls the
shots. If they continue to not vote anyone in--why even have the
committee?
Set up another committee of 12 voters like the one who elected Joe
Gordon---how did this evolve anyway & why only 12 voters?
HAPPY HOLIDAYS--MAY GOD BLESS-SAY A PRAYER FOR THE HODGES FAMILY

I had to shut the press conference off.  One of Joe
Gordon's "credentials" is playing catch with Larry Doby, according to
an "esteemed" black female baseball historian!?!?  That makes him
a "Hall of Fame person" according to this idiot who never played?
What is the opposite of that?  Walking out into left field and taking
Cleon Jones out of a game.  I am a firm believer that this is being
held against old Gil, and he will never be allowed into the HoF. This
country is a PC Marxist insane asylum, and I pity everyone who ever
fought or died in wars only to see the kind of country we've turned
into.  It's 2008 and we have a black president-elect.  When
will "enough be enough", and race baiting in a press conference like
this cease?  The answer is "never" - just ask any communist.   The HoF
can rot in hell.  If this offends anyone - I DON"T CARE.  The truth is
the truth.

--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, bklynbum14
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> REMEMBER BALLOTS ARE OUT AND FINAL RESULTS ANNOUNCED ON DECEMBER 8th--
> so
> PLEASE KEEP PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES
>
> HE DESERVES IT
>
> COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES
>
Got my fingers crossed for this!... ;oD

REMEMBER BALLOTS ARE OUT AND FINAL RESULTS ANNOUNCED ON DECEMBER 8th--
so
PLEASE KEEP PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES

HE DESERVES IT

COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES

--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Cromer
<gilhodges4hof@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Larry & All ..........
>  
> Although I'm not a particularly religious person I do recall what
fans of Gil Hodges did during his WS slump of the early 50's; they
prayed for Gil.  We are all SO FORTUNATE to have a hero like Gil
Hodges.  I became a fan of Gil's in 1958 when the Dodgers moved out
to my birthplace of Los Angeles, California.  There is hardly a day
when I don't think about Gil, never a day when I fail to be thankful
for having Gil as my hero.  I KNOW Gil is going to make it into the
HOF and I am confident that it will be soon.  What a wonderful
experience that will be, sharing the moment with all of you @
Cooperstown.  Mrs. Joan Hodges, and the family, deserve this
moment. 
>  
> Thanks to ALL of you for your efforts on behalf of Gil. 
>  
>  
> Ron Cromer
> THANK YOU RON FOR YOUR SUPPORT--AS A SIDE NOTE THE ANNOUNCEMENT
FOR THE HALL COMES OUT ON DECEMBER 8 ---HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE GIL'S
LUCKY DAY AS HE WAS A ROMAN CATHOLIC & DEC 8th IS A HOLYDAY FOR
CATHOLICS -FEAST OF IMMACULATE CONCEPTION SO I HOPE BLESSED MOTHER
MARY IS CASTING MANY VOTES FOR OUR GIL AND I TOO PRAY FOR GIL DAILY
AS COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Larry Pizer <saluki1971@...> wrote:
>
> From: Larry Pizer <saluki1971@...>
> Subject: Re: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: gotta t-shirt
design? how about email campaign?
> To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:13 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am planning my vacation around the election and a visit to
Cooperstown in July. We need to impact the voters somehow.  Gil is
the man...I have a game used glove I got from Gil at Spring training
in 58.  I have offered it to the Hall for his induction. Go Gil!
>
> --- On Mon, 10/6/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
> From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: gotta t-shirt
design? how about email campaign?
> To: gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 7:06 PM
>
> --- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, bfa629
> <no_reply@ .> wrote:
> >
> > That's a beautiful logo. Has anyone put it on a t-shirt? I'd buy
a
> few
> > for Christmas presents to spread the word that we need to be
more
> pro-
> > active this time. Also, has anyone compiled a list of email
> addresses
> > for the 60+ members who will be voting? Sending letters to
voters
> at
> > the Hall is not as productive as one may think. They do not go
to
> the
> > voters, according to what the Hall PR guy told me a few years
ago.
> > They go into a bin where the voters can look at them if they
want
> to.
> > We need to be more in-your-face about it this time. An effective
> email
> > campaign might make the difference. The appearance of people
> wearing t-
> > shirts in public could stir up interest in the general public.
> This
> > may be our last shot.
>
> Good thought---some years ago I designed a GIL tee shirt and sold
> almost 150 to most of you and we donated all profits ($1,000)
> to the labor day jerry lewis telethon-MS- -in fact I appeared on
TV
> with Joan Hodges in Secausus NJ to give check. The design did not
> include the logo which may be property of Dodgers. HOW TO GET IN
> TOUCH WITH 60 VOTERS IS TOUGH AS HALL DOES THROW MAIL AWAY AND
WHERE
> TO GET E-MAIL OR STREET ADDRESS OF 60 IS UNKNOWN TO ME--SO I
MERELY
> QUOTE
> 'PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES" & HOPE FOR FAVORABLE VOTE ON DEC 8.
> HALL DOES SEND NICE PRESS PACKAGE ON CANDIDATES TO ALL VOTERS--HOW
> MANY READ THEM??----ONLY 10 THIS TIME AND GIL'S TELLS IT AS IT IS
> YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF ON HALL WEB SITE
> SEE YOU ALL IN COOPERSTOWN IN JULY WITH GIL TEE SHIRTS I WILL GIVE
> AWAY
> THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT
> >
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Dear Larry & All ..........
 
Although I'm not a particularly religious person I do recall what fans of Gil
Hodges did during his WS slump of the early 50's; they prayed for Gil.  We are
all SO FORTUNATE to have a hero like Gil Hodges.  I became a fan of Gil's in
1958 when the Dodgers moved out to my birthplace of Los Angeles, California. 
There is hardly a day when I don't think about Gil, never a day when I fail to
be thankful for having Gil as my hero.  I KNOW Gil is going to make it into the
HOF and I am confident that it will be soon.  What a wonderful experience that
will be, sharing the moment with all of you @ Cooperstown.  Mrs. Joan Hodges,
and the family, deserve this moment. 
 
Thanks to ALL of you for your efforts on behalf of Gil. 
 
 
Ron Cromer

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Larry Pizer <saluki1971@...> wrote:

From: Larry Pizer <saluki1971@...>
Subject: Re: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: gotta t-shirt design? how
about email campaign?
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:13 PM






I am planning my vacation around the election and a visit to Cooperstown in
July. We need to impact the voters somehow.  Gil is the man...I have a game used
glove I got from Gil at Spring training in 58.  I have offered it to the Hall
for his induction. Go Gil!

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:

From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: gotta t-shirt design? how about
email campaign?
To: gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 7:06 PM

--- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, bfa629
<no_reply@.. .> wrote:
>
> That's a beautiful logo. Has anyone put it on a t-shirt? I'd buy a
few
> for Christmas presents to spread the word that we need to be more
pro-
> active this time. Also, has anyone compiled a list of email
addresses
> for the 60+ members who will be voting? Sending letters to voters
at
> the Hall is not as productive as one may think. They do not go to
the
> voters, according to what the Hall PR guy told me a few years ago.
> They go into a bin where the voters can look at them if they want
to.
> We need to be more in-your-face about it this time. An effective
email
> campaign might make the difference. The appearance of people
wearing t-
> shirts in public could stir up interest in the general public.
This
> may be our last shot.

Good thought---some years ago I designed a GIL tee shirt and sold
almost 150 to most of you and we donated all profits ($1,000)
to the labor day jerry lewis telethon-MS- -in fact I appeared on TV
with Joan Hodges in Secausus NJ to give check. The design did not
include the logo which may be property of Dodgers. HOW TO GET IN
TOUCH WITH 60 VOTERS IS TOUGH AS HALL DOES THROW MAIL AWAY AND WHERE
TO GET E-MAIL OR STREET ADDRESS OF 60 IS UNKNOWN TO ME--SO I MERELY
QUOTE
'PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES" & HOPE FOR FAVORABLE VOTE ON DEC 8.
HALL DOES SEND NICE PRESS PACKAGE ON CANDIDATES TO ALL VOTERS--HOW
MANY READ THEM??----ONLY 10 THIS TIME AND GIL'S TELLS IT AS IT IS
YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF ON HALL WEB SITE
SEE YOU ALL IN COOPERSTOWN IN JULY WITH GIL TEE SHIRTS I WILL GIVE
AWAY
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am planning my vacation around the election and a visit to Cooperstown in
July. We need to impact the voters somehow.  Gil is the man...I have a game used
glove I got from Gil at Spring training in 58.  I have offered it to the Hall
for his induction. Go Gil!

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [GIL HODGES HALL OF FAME SUPPORT] Re: gotta t-shirt design? how about
email campaign?
To: gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 7:06 PM






--- In gilhodgeshalloffame support@yahoogro ups.com, bfa629
<no_reply@.. .> wrote:
>
> That's a beautiful logo. Has anyone put it on a t-shirt? I'd buy a
few
> for Christmas presents to spread the word that we need to be more
pro-
> active this time. Also, has anyone compiled a list of email
addresses
> for the 60+ members who will be voting? Sending letters to voters
at
> the Hall is not as productive as one may think. They do not go to
the
> voters, according to what the Hall PR guy told me a few years ago.
> They go into a bin where the voters can look at them if they want
to.
> We need to be more in-your-face about it this time. An effective
email
> campaign might make the difference. The appearance of people
wearing t-
> shirts in public could stir up interest in the general public.
This
> may be our last shot.

Good thought---some years ago I designed a GIL tee shirt and sold
almost 150 to most of you and we donated all profits ($1,000)
to the labor day jerry lewis telethon-MS- -in fact I appeared on TV
with Joan Hodges in Secausus NJ to give check. The design did not
include the logo which may be property of Dodgers. HOW TO GET IN
TOUCH WITH 60 VOTERS IS TOUGH AS HALL DOES THROW MAIL AWAY AND WHERE
TO GET E-MAIL OR STREET ADDRESS OF 60 IS UNKNOWN TO ME--SO I MERELY
QUOTE
'PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES" & HOPE FOR FAVORABLE VOTE ON DEC 8.
HALL DOES SEND NICE PRESS PACKAGE ON CANDIDATES TO ALL VOTERS--HOW
MANY READ THEM??----ONLY 10 THIS TIME AND GIL'S TELLS IT AS IT IS
YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF ON HALL WEB SITE
SEE YOU ALL IN COOPERSTOWN IN JULY WITH GIL TEE SHIRTS I WILL GIVE
AWAY
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT
>


















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--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, bfa629
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> That's a beautiful logo. Has anyone put it on a t-shirt? I'd buy a
few
> for Christmas presents to spread the word that we need to be more
pro-
> active this time. Also, has anyone compiled a list of email
addresses
> for the 60+ members who will be voting? Sending letters to voters
at
> the Hall is not as productive as one may think. They do not go to
the
> voters, according to what the Hall PR guy told me a few years ago.
> They go into a bin where the voters can look at them if they want
to.
> We need to be more in-your-face about it this time. An effective
email
> campaign might make the difference. The appearance of people
wearing t-
> shirts in public could stir up interest in the general public.
This
> may be our last shot.

Good thought---some years ago I designed a GIL tee shirt and sold
almost 150 to most of you and we donated all profits ($1,000)
to the labor day jerry lewis telethon-MS--in fact I appeared on TV
with Joan Hodges in Secausus NJ to give check. The design did not
include the logo which may be property of Dodgers. HOW TO GET IN
TOUCH WITH 60 VOTERS IS TOUGH AS HALL DOES THROW MAIL AWAY AND WHERE
TO GET E-MAIL OR STREET ADDRESS OF 60 IS UNKNOWN TO ME--SO I MERELY
QUOTE
'PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES" & HOPE FOR FAVORABLE VOTE ON DEC 8.
HALL DOES SEND NICE PRESS PACKAGE ON CANDIDATES TO ALL VOTERS--HOW
MANY READ THEM??----ONLY 10 THIS TIME AND GIL'S TELLS IT AS IT IS
YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF ON HALL WEB SITE
SEE YOU ALL IN COOPERSTOWN IN JULY WITH GIL TEE SHIRTS I WILL GIVE
AWAY
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT
>

That's a beautiful logo. Has anyone put it on a t-shirt? I'd buy a few
for Christmas presents to spread the word that we need to be more pro-
active this time. Also, has anyone compiled a list of email addresses
for the 60+ members who will be voting? Sending letters to voters at
the Hall is not as productive as one may think. They do not go to the
voters, according to what the Hall PR guy told me a few years ago.
They go into a bin where the voters can look at them if they want to.
We need to be more in-your-face about it this time. An effective email
campaign might make the difference. The appearance of people wearing t-
shirts in public could stir up interest in the general public. This
may be our last shot.

THE VET COMMITTEE CHANGED THE RULES THIS YEAR FOR THE 2009 INDUCTEES---
THERE IS PRE AND POST WWII--ELECTION---I BELIEVE THE PRE BALLOT IS
FINALIZED WITH THE POST TO CONSIST OF 10 PLAYERS TO BE ANNOUNCED THIS
MONTH-SEPT--AND GIL WILL BE ON IT---BALLOTS GO OUT IN NOVEMBER AND
RESULTS ANNOUNCED EARLY DECEMBER, 2008.
JUST IN CASE YOU RUN INTO A HALL OF FAMER ON THE GOLF COURSE OR CARD
SHOW LET THEM KNOW GIL NEEDS THEIR VOTE---ALL LIVING HALL OF FAMERS
VOTE AND THAT INCLUDES GOSSAGE--SPARKY ANDERSEN--LASORDA---AND ABOUT 62
MORE BUT ONE NEEDS 75% TO GET ELECTED. INDUCTION WEEKEND IN 2009 IS
JULY 25-26 WHICH IS EARLY--HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE---CONTINUE
TO "PRAYING FOR GIL HODGES"

CARL ERSKINE VISITS BROOKLYN CYCLONES PARK ON 8/17. I WILL BE THERE TO
GET OISK BOBBLEHEAD & HEAR HIM PLAY NATIONAL ANTHEM ON HIS HARMONICA
AND DO SOME SIGNING TOO---LAST YEAR IT WAS NEWK AND A FEW WEEKS AGO
SHUBA WHO HAS NEW BOOK OUT. CANNOT WAIT TO SEE #17 THROW OUT FIRST
BALL TOO----OUR BUMS STILL HAVE ROOTS IN BROOKLYN--THAT IS CONEY
ISLAND BROOKLYN--THANKS TO METS FOR BRINGING THEM BACK

I AM OFFICIALLY RETIRED NOW--NOT BAD--GOOD HEALTH TO ALL AND MAY GOD
BLESS

--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, bklynbum14
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Send your opinions in as Steve Hart will be interested on this 50th
> ANNIV. --1958---of OMalley taking our Brooklyn Bums away--By the way
> George Shuba will be in Brooklyn july 20th re his new book and carl
> Erskine on August 17th--bobble head nite--both in coney island--Met
> farm class A--Brooklyn CYCLONES game---the 'B" on the team's logo is
> the Brooklyn B-----check Cyclone web site for tickets and gear
>
From what I have learned from the recent HBO special, I guess I
shouldn't blame O'Malley.  Robert Moses seems to have been equally
guilty (maybe moreso) for losing two teams. And, I guess, given the
same deal I would have moved, too. HOWEVER, in my heart I STILL hold it
against him (O'Malley).  HOF?  For what?  Taking the best deal offered
to make the most money?

Send your opinions in as Steve Hart will be interested on this 50th
ANNIV. --1958---of OMalley taking our Brooklyn Bums away--By the way
George Shuba will be in Brooklyn july 20th re his new book and carl
Erskine on August 17th--bobble head nite--both in coney island--Met
farm class A--Brooklyn CYCLONES game---the 'B" on the team's logo is
the Brooklyn B-----check Cyclone web site for tickets and gear

Gil Hodges, The Amazin' Manager Michael Mink
Fri Jul 11, 6:14 PM ET



The New York Mets had a legacy of lovable losers, but Gil Hodges
failed to see the humor.



During his first spring training in 1968 as the team's manager,
Hodges told players and the press that "losing is no laughing
matter," recalled Joe Pignatano, who played and coached with him.

Hodges (1924-72) vowed that anyone planning to watch the Mets for a
chuckle would be disappointed.

He was used to winning as a standout first baseman who played in
seven World Series with the Brooklyn and Los Angeles Dodgers.

As the Mets' manager, he got down to business fast. With a team that
averaged 54 wins each of the previous six seasons, he produced 73
victories his first campaign.

The next spring, he astounded reporters by predicting that the Mets
had the talent to win 85 games.

Hodges' outlook proved amazing.

By the time 1969's season ended, the Amazin' Mets had turned into
the Miracle Mets.

They won 100 games in the regular season, swept the Atlanta Braves
in the National League pennant series and routed the favored
Baltimore Orioles in five World Series games.

Hodges' Mets were champions, completing one of the great turnarounds
in sports history.

How did he do it? The soft-spoken and gentlemanly Hodges emphasized
the mental aspect of the game.

"It's not reasonable for me to think that any player will catch
every ball that is hit to him. But it is reasonable for me to expect
that every player on the field knows how many outs have been made in
the inning," Hodges wrote in "The Game of Baseball," with Frank
Slocum.

"Gil always said, 'Hey, errors, everybody makes (physical) errors.
That's being human. But you can't make mental mistakes, because
you're a professional,'" said Bud Harrelson, the '69 Mets' shortstop
and now the part owner of the minor-league Long Island Ducks. "Gil
was pretty low-key unless you made a stupid mistake, but he would
not embarrass you right there; he'd just talk to you privately after
the game. He made me a smarter player by making me think more."

Hodges managed from field experience. In a playing career that
started in 1943, picked up after the war in 1947 and ran until 1963,
he blasted 370 home runs -- which at the time was the most of any
right-handed hitter in National League history.

Hodges was part of the power behind the great Dodgers teams of the
1950s. His 1,001 runs batted in were the most of any player in the
decade.

He appeared in eight All-Star games, won three Gold Gloves for his
defense and helped the Dodgers win the 1955 and 1959 world titles.

By 1963, he was playing for the Mets and realized, at 39, that his
playing days were over. So early in the season he shed his New York
pinstripes and donned Washington garb to manage the Senators.

The team languished at the bottom of the American League that year,
then slowly rose under Hodges. By 1967, he had the Senators in sixth
place in the 10-team loop.

Two years later, his Met moves earned him National League Manager of
the Year honors and the nickname the Miracle Worker.

"Gil was the difference. He instilled confidence in us and made us
believe we could win," said Cleon Jones, the '69 Mets' left fielder,
as quoted in "Gil Hodges: The Quiet Man," by Marino Amoruso.

Hodges said the essential of baseball strategy was to keep things
simple. "The biggest danger for a manager, and the easiest trap for
him to fall into, is to overmanage," he said.

"Gil stressed two major things -- fundamentals and giving your best
all the time," Frank Howard, who played with him on the Dodgers and
under him on the Senators, said in Amoruso's book.

Hodges' career and life were cut short when he died of a heart
attack in April 1972. He was 48.

The Mets retired his No. 14 in 1982. The pride of Princeton, Ind.,
is beloved by multitudes of former teammates and players. Duke
Snider called him "consistent." Carl Erskine called him "genuine."
Howard and Pee Wee Reese said anyone would want their son to grow up
to be like Hodges.

On the field, Hodges played and learned under three Hall of Fame
skippers: Leo Durocher, Walter Alston and Casey Stengel.

From Alston, Hodges learned that regardless of the criticism from
media and fans, a manager must be true to his instincts. Durocher's
example taught Hodges not to manage against the opposing manager's
moves, but to focus on his own team. "Gil was ahead of everyone
else," Pignatano told IBD. "He knew what he was going to do two,
three innings down the line."

Hodges' philosophy of managing people wasn't complicated, just firm.
He expected his players to conduct themselves like professionals.
This included being in proper physical shape and getting enough
rest. Players who stayed out all night, Hodges said, hurt the
team, "and it's my job to see that they don't hurt the club. If I
let them get away with breaking the rules, I'm inviting the others
to do the same thing."

When it came to rules, Hodges believed in enforcing them across the
board. "His rules applied equally to every man on the club. ... He
played no favorites," said Tom Seaver, the Mets' Cy Young Award
winner in 1969, as quoted by Amoruso.

When Hodges disciplined players, he tried to get them to understand
their mistake. "Meetings shouldn't be for the purpose of bawling
them out or humiliating them. It should be an opportunity for them
to learn. They have questions, and your ability as a manager will be
directly related to your ability to answer those questions," he
wrote.

Hodges, a World War II combat veteran, stayed mentally tough to
serve as a positive example to his team. He felt that if he
complained or lost his cool, his players -- especially his hurlers --
  might also lose it.

"If a pitcher loses his temper, he also loses his powers of
reasoning, and that's a luxury that pitchers can afford less than
anybody else on the field," Hodges said.

He instilled in his players to never give up, no matter the score.

"Somebody has to try to keep the hope of winning alive," he
said. "Realistically, chance of victory might be very slim, but ...
the thing for you to see that your players remember is that those
chances do exist."

NOTE--Gil received Bronze Medal as WWII Marine---one of only three
players to both hit for cycle and hit 4 homers in one game