I thought that I would never, ever, say this in my lifetime-   but I could
accept O'Malley in the exec.wing of the Hall if Gil is elected!!!!!!!!

   Ira

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           VOTING RESULTS FOR 2007 HALL TO BE ANNOUNCED 2/27/2007. 84 ARE
ELIGIBLE TO VOTE--61 HALL OF FAMERS--14 FROM BROADCASTING-8-WRITERS-1
OLD VETS.
75% VOTES NEEDED--NO ONE RECEIVED IN 2003 & 2005---HODGES & SANTO GOT
65% IN 2005 OR 8 VOTES SHORT

OTHERS ON 27 PLAYER BALLOT INCLUDE KAAT-OLIVA-TORRE-WILLS-MARIS-
COLAVITO

INTERESTING--EXECUTIVE BALLOT HAS WALTER O'MALLEY>>>REMEMBER HIM
MAYBE HE AND GIL BOTH GET IN SAME TIME

IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING LA DODGERS A RECORD WAS TIED ON 9/28 19-11 WIN
OVER COLORADO--LA ROOKIE 1B JAMES LONEY HAD 9 RBI AND TIED OUR GIL
HODGES WHO DID IT ON 8/31/1950 WHEN HE HIT 4 HR OFF 4 DIFFERENT BOSTON
BRAVE PITCHERS INCLUDING WARREN SPAHN

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VOTING RESULTS FOR 2007 HALL TO BE ANNOUNCED 2/27/2007. 84 ARE
ELIGIBLE TO VOTE--61 HALL OF FAMERS--14 FROM BROADCASTING-8-WRITERS-1
OLD VETS.
75% VOTES NEEDED--NO ONE RECEIVED IN 2003 & 2005---HODGES & SANTO GOT
65% IN 2005 OR 8 VOTES SHORT

OTHERS ON 27 PLAYER BALLOT INCLUDE KAAT-OLIVA-TORRE-WILLS-MARIS-
COLAVITO

INTERESTING--EXECUTIVE BALLOT HAS WALTER O'MALLEY>>>REMEMBER HIM
    MAYBE HE AND GIL BOTH GET IN SAME TIME

IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING LA DODGERS A RECORD WAS TIED ON 9/28 19-11 WIN
OVER COLORADO--LA ROOKIE 1B JAMES LONEY HAD 9 RBI AND TIED OUR GIL
HODGES WHO DID IT ON 8/31/1950 WHEN HE HIT 4 HR OFF 4 DIFFERENT BOSTON
BRAVE PITCHERS INCLUDING WARREN SPAHN

KEEP THE QUEST FOR GIL

THIS IS JULY 27TH ARTICLE RE BASEBALL HALL OF FAME VET COMMITTEE

scandal
From wire reports
Notes
Baseball Hall of Fame
The Baseball Hall of Fame's
reconstructed Veterans Committee
failed to elect a player
for induction in its first two
ballots, but it has given several
eligible candidates more support
than they had received
from the writers in 15 years
on the ballot.
The "new" Veterans Committee
consists of every living
Hall of Famer (61 members),
one holdover from the old
committee and 24 writers/
broadcasters honored in their
respective wings of the museum.
They'll receive a final ballot
from 25 to 30 players,
reached through a screening
process that involves three
separate overview committees.
(Anyone who played 10
or more years in the majors is
on the original list.) The group
votes on players every other
year, on managers/umpires/
executives every four years.
The old Veterans Committee,
which operated between
1953 and 2001, fluctuated in
membership from 12 to 21
and held closed-door meetings
in which the vote totals
were not revealed. The current
system is more like the
writers' ballot — 75% is needed
for election and all results
are made public.
In the last election in 2005,
Brooklyn's Gil Hodges and
Chicago's Ron Santo each received
65% of the vote, more
support than either had garnered
on the writers' ballot.
(Hodges' best was 63%, Santo's
43%.) Minnesota's Tony
Oliva (56% in 2005) and Jim
Kaat (54%) also did better.
Hall of Famer Billy Williams
says he believes the Veterans
Committee will elect some
player this year.
By Mike Dodd
No inductees
from veterans
Buck Weaver was tainted by the
Black Sox scandal though he wasn't
accused of taking money. Johnny
Kling got a bad rap as baseball's
first contract holdout. Lefty
O'Doul's batting career was so brief
it created a popular notion he
wasn't eligible for the Hall of Fame.
All have been dead for more than
35 years, but work continues to rebuild
their legacies, thanks to loyal
fans practicing a lobby of love.
Supporters of the three are
among several groups whose
dream is to journey to Cooperstown
the final weekend in July to
see their player inducted into the
Baseball Hall of Fame. The campaigns
are, for the most part, grassroots
efforts and geared toward
players who would appear on the
ballot for the Veterans Committee,
which votes every two years, next
in January.
Brooklyn Dodgers first baseman
Gil Hodges and Chicago Cubs third
baseman Ron Santo received 65% of
the vote in 2005, each missing the
75% needed for election by eight
votes, and are the subjects of efforts
that are gearing up again.
The more obscure missions face
daunting tasks, and some are
designed more to repair a player's
reputation than elect him to the
Hall.
One of `eight'
Cooperstown is a secondary objective
for the Weaver initiative,
which is focusing on the former
White Sox third baseman's reinstatement.
He was one of the "Eight
Men Out" in the 1919 Black Sox
scandal, in which Shoeless Joe
Jackson and teammates were banished
from baseball for fixing to
throw the World Series. Weaver
wasn't banned for accepting money
or tanking the Series but for failing
to alert authorities.
David Fletcher, a Champaign, Ill.,
physician and life-long White Sox
fan, says he started the latest movement
about three years ago after
having a "supernatural experience"
at the site of home plate for old
Comiskey Park. (The team commemorates
the spot in what is now
one of the U.S. Cellular Field parking
lots.)
Fletcher, who had been married
at home plate five years earlier, says
he heard a voice telling him to contact
Weaver's family and "clear my
name."
When he reached the player's
living relatives after the Ray Kinsella
moment, he says, "They thought
I was a nut case. They said, `It can't
be done. Other people have tried.' "
Not like this. In addition to setting
up a website (www.clear
buck.com), Fletcher hired a public
relations consultant, staged a protest
at the unveiling of former team
owner Charles Comiskey's statue,
rented a booth at the White Sox's
winter convention and made presentations
across the country.
"I'm trying to clear a dead baseball
player's name and restore justice,"
Fletcher says, adding he has
spent well into six figures in the endeavor.
"The guy didn't take any
money, and he didn't embarrass
baseball the rest of his life."
Still in the running
Kling and O'Doul are on the list of
200 old-timers still in the running
for election to the Hall next year.
The list will be pared to 25 for the
final ballot this summer; both
failed to make to cut in 2005.
Kling was the catcher on the Chicago
Cubs' pennant-winning teams
of 1906-08 but sat out the 1909
season. When he sought to return
in 1910, the National Baseball Commission
(the predecessor to the
commissioner's office) ruled Kling
had violated his contract and fined
him $700.
"He was cited as the original
holdout. . . . He got hit
over the head with that
forever," says Gil Bogen,
author of Johnny Kling, A
Baseball Biography,
which argues that the
catcher had received
permission for a leave of
absence to tend to his
billiard parlor business in
Kansas City. "If it hadn't
been for the bad PR, I believe
he'd be in the Hall
of Fame."
Bogen and Kling's
grandson, John, have
petitioned Commissioner
Bud Selig to have the
National Commission's
ruling overturned. "I'd
like to see that part of his
record set straight," Kling says. "After
that, there shouldn't be any issues
concerning him."
O'Doul, who died in 1969, was
honored at a dinner by the United
Irish Cultural Center of San Francisco
(UICC) last month. The San Francisco
native spent his first four
years in the big leagues as a littleused,
sore-armed pitcher. After
four more years in the minors, he
returned as an outfielder at 31 and
played seven years before retiring
after the 1934 season
with a .349 lifetime batting
average, the fourth
highest all time. He
gained wide popularity
in Japan during barnstorming
tours and is a
member of the Japanese
Baseball Hall of Fame.
Daniel Woodhead, a
retired banker, learned
of O'Doul's exploits at
the San Francisco restaurant
bearing the player's
name and started
garnering letters of support
for his Hall candidacy
in the early 1990s.
Woodhead believes a
misunderstanding about
O'Doul's eligibility has
hampered his cause, though the
lefty slugger was on the baseball
writers' ballot, last appearing in
1962.
John Ring, a fan and member of
the UICC board, resurrected the
movement this year and, with
Woodhead, organized an information
campaign that is sending written
material and a DVD to more
than 260 sportswriters, editors and
baseball notables. "The fact that he
passed so long ago, his story may
have faded," Ring says.
O'Neil stands in
The quests for Cooperstown took
a particularly offbeat turn last week
when Buck O'Neil, 94, stepped into
the batter's box in the Northern
League All-Star game. The Kansas
City T-Bones of the independent
league signed O'Neil to a one-day
contract to drum up support. (He
walked twice.) The team also has a
petition on its website.
Others who have received
organized support include Dummy
Hoy, Dom DiMaggio, Bucky Walters
and Roger Maris.
The Hodges' candidacy has several
Dodgers fans working in its behalf.
"Everybody works a little independently,"
says Marty Adler,
president of the Brooklyn Dodgers
Hall of Fame.
Brooklyn native Joe D'Agostin, a
Norwalk, Conn., accountant, took
up the cause in 1997 and has three
websites/groups dedicated to it. Up
until last year, he attended induction
weekend in Cooperstown every
summer, lobbying and putting
fliers for the slugger on auto windshields
around town. In 2001, he
created and sold Hodges T-shirts,
donating the proceeds to charity.
"My wife says if he gets elected,
I won't have anything to do,"
D'Agostin says.
Santo, now a popular Cubs
broadcaster, generates similar passion
from Chicago fans. Scott Lewis,
28, of Palatine, Ill., started a website
(www.santoforhall.com) to collect
petitions for the third baseman's
election. He says he attended Ryne
Sandberg's induction into Cooperstown
last year and "it made me
angry for Santo. I want to do what I
can to help Ronnie get there."
Santo, like most living candidates,
appreciates fans' support but
doesn't have any contact with his
Hall activists. "I don't want to be
part of that campaigning," he says.
"What they do as a campaign, they
do on their own."
His former teammate Billy Williams,
a Hall of Famer and Veterans
Committee voter, says he gets
about three or four packages from
fans lobbying for a player each election.
Some may refresh his memory
of a player before his time, but
he doesn't think the material influences
the outcome.
"We know the credentials," Williams
says. "We played against
those guys."

VISITED CONEY ISLAND AND THE BROOKLYN CYCLONES LAST SAT-7/29 AND WAS
IN AWE SEEING THE STATUE OF PEE WEE AND JACKIE IN FRONT OF STADIUM.
IF YOU GET A CHANCE, DO NOT MISS SEEING IT AND THE BROOKLYN DODGER
MUSEUM IS OPEN ALL YEAR LONG FOR $1 ADMISSION BUT YOU DO NOT NEED GAME
TICKETS TO GET IN AND THERE IS ALWAYS NATHAN'S HOT DOGS TO COMPLETE
THE CYCLE
BE WELL

I can't think of a better recommendation.

M.T.

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94 YEAR OLD BUCK O'NEIL WAS NOT ELECTED TO THE SPECIAL NEGRO HALL
ELECTION BUT WAS ASKED BY THE HALL TO INTRODUCE THEM ON INDUCTION
SUNDAY-7/30/2006 IN COOPERSTOWN. A CLASS ACT, HE GAVE HIS SPEECH
CLOSING WITH A REMARK THAT GIL HODGES SHOULD BE IN THE HALL AND WAS
GREETED BY RACHAEL ROBINSON AFTER HIS SPEECH. WE HOPE BUCK GETS IN
SOON AS MANY FEEL HE SHOULD.
MAYBE BUCK'S REMARKS WILL GIVE GIL THE ADDITIONAL VOTES HE NEEDS THIS
DECEMBER WHEN THE VET COMMITTE VOTES AGAIN.

CHECK OUT ARTICLE ON VET CANDIDATES CAMPAIGN IN USA TODAY THIS
THURS/FRIDAY COVERING GIL -SANTO & OTHERS ON VERGE OF ELECTION? BY
HALL OF FAME VET COMMITTE. THIS IS HALL OF FAME INDUNCTION WEEKEND.
MAYBE WE CAN MEET SAME TIME NEXT YEAR FOR GIL
BEST REGARGS AND BE WELL
JOE D'AGOSTIN

--- In gilhodgeshalloffamesupport@yahoogroups.com, "Ira S."
<sarichef11747@...> wrote:
>
> so how do we get these stats into the hands of the Veteran
Committee?
>
> Frank Fitzgerald <barnardbee@...> wrote:    Also, I might add that
only three players were in the top ten for hits, walks, runs, home
runs, total bases and runs batted in from 1950-59.  Those three are
Stan Musial, Duke Snider and Gil Hodges.
>
>  Frank Fitzgerald <barnardbee@...> wrote:  Duke and Gil were also
the only ones to knock in 1000 runs in that decade.
>
>  "Ira S." <sarichef11747@...> wrote:  Sunday Newsday, May 14
>
>  home runs by decade:
>
>  1950-59
>
>  Duke Snider    326 *
>
>  Gil Hodges     310
>
>  Eddie Mathews  299  *
>
>
>  (*) Hall of Famer
>
>  WE CANNOT-AS NEW FORMAT HAS 80+ VOTERS AND HALL DOES NOT PASS
MAIL TO THEM AND THERE IS NO HOME MAILING LIST OUT THERE---THUS THE
NEW FORMAT REALLY WILL PREVENT ANYONE FROM GETTING IN THRU VET
COMMITTEE--FOR THOSE ON BALLOT LIKE GIL-HALL SENDS BIO TO ALL 80+
VOTERS---GIL AND SANTO ARE TOP VOTE GETTERS BUT ABOUT 8 SHORT
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON HALL TO SHOW WHO VOTES FOR WHO SO WE CAN
SOMEHOW CONTACT THOSE LIKE EARL WEAVER WHO DO NOT VOTE FOR GIL
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so how do we get these stats into the hands of the Veteran Committee?

Frank Fitzgerald <barnardbee@...> wrote:    Also, I might add that only
three players were in the top ten for hits, walks, runs, home runs, total bases
and runs batted in from 1950-59.  Those three are Stan Musial, Duke Snider and
Gil Hodges.

  Frank Fitzgerald <barnardbee@...> wrote:  Duke and Gil were also the only
ones to knock in 1000 runs in that decade.

  "Ira S." <sarichef11747@...> wrote:  Sunday Newsday, May 14

  home runs by decade:

  1950-59

  Duke Snider    326 *

  Gil Hodges     310

  Eddie Mathews  299  *


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Also, I might add that only three players were in the top ten for hits, walks,
runs, home runs, total bases and runs batted in from 1950-59.  Those three are
Stan Musial, Duke Snider and Gil Hodges.

Frank Fitzgerald <barnardbee@...> wrote:  Duke and Gil were also the only
ones to knock in 1000 runs in that decade.

"Ira S." <sarichef11747@...> wrote:  Sunday Newsday, May 14

home runs by decade:

1950-59

Duke Snider    326 *

Gil Hodges     310

Eddie Mathews  299  *


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Duke and Gil were also the only ones to knock in 1000 runs in that decade.

"Ira S." <sarichef11747@...> wrote:  Sunday Newsday, May 14

home runs by decade:

1950-59

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Gil Hodges     310

Eddie Mathews  299  *


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home runs by decade:

1950-59

Duke Snider    326 *

Gil Hodges     310

Eddie Mathews  299  *


(*) Hall of Famer

I was there, too.  One of the saddest days I can remember.

   Frank Moreno

"Ira S." <sarichef11747@...> wrote:        Amen!

bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>  wrote:    OUR HERO PASSED AWAY 34 YEARS
AGO 2 DAYS SHORT  OF HIS 48TH BIRTHDAY--
    4/4/1972---4/4/1924.
    I VISITED HIS OPEN CASKET IN BROOKLYN. HE WAS IN A MET UNIFORM-VERY
    TAN AND SEEMED ASLEEP IN THAT HE APPEARED THE PICTURE OF GOOD HEALTH
    WITH THOSE BIG HANDS AND AND HANDSOME FACE.
    REMEMBER JOAN TODAY AND THE HODGES FAMILY AND PASS ON GIL'S QUIET MAN
    WAY OF LIFE TO THE YONGER GENERATION AND YES KEEP THE QUEST GOING--WE
    KNOW COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES
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bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:    OUR HERO PASSED AWAY 34 YEARS
AGO 2 DAYS SHORT OF HIS 48TH BIRTHDAY--
  4/4/1972---4/4/1924.
  I VISITED HIS OPEN CASKET IN BROOKLYN. HE WAS IN A MET UNIFORM-VERY
  TAN AND SEEMED ASLEEP IN THAT HE APPEARED THE PICTURE OF GOOD HEALTH
  WITH THOSE BIG HANDS AND AND HANDSOME FACE.
  REMEMBER JOAN TODAY AND THE HODGES FAMILY AND PASS ON GIL'S QUIET MAN
  WAY OF LIFE TO THE YONGER GENERATION AND YES KEEP THE QUEST GOING--WE
  KNOW COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES
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OUR HERO PASSED AWAY 34 YEARS AGO 2 DAYS SHORT OF HIS 48TH BIRTHDAY--
4/4/1972---4/4/1924.
I VISITED HIS OPEN CASKET IN BROOKLYN. HE WAS IN A MET UNIFORM-VERY
TAN AND SEEMED ASLEEP IN THAT HE APPEARED THE PICTURE OF GOOD HEALTH
WITH THOSE BIG HANDS AND AND HANDSOME FACE.
REMEMBER JOAN TODAY AND THE HODGES FAMILY AND PASS ON GIL'S QUIET MAN
WAY OF LIFE TO THE YONGER GENERATION AND YES KEEP THE QUEST GOING--WE
KNOW COOPERSTOWN NEEDS GIL HODGES
HAVE A GOOD DAY

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<no_reply@...> wrote:
>LINK IS INCORRECT

GO TO

  http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hofers_and_honorees/veterans/

> There are about 84 Hall of Fame Vet committee voters who determine
> the fate of our hero Gil. To date this new format has put no one
in
> the Hall and some experts state never will--it is a divide and
> conquer approach by the Hall Board much different than the old 15
> member Committee directed by Ted Williams--TEDDY BALL.
> Those who can vote and the results by candidate can be found at
>
>    http://www.baseballhalloffame.org.hofers_and_honorees/veterans/
>
> The problem is we do not know who is voting or not voting for GIL--
> These results are not published and we should write to get this
> changed. The Hall will not pass on mail to the 84 but we can write
> to the Hall Board and show we want the voters' ballots put on the
> Hall web site--true we know that Reggie Jackson & Mike Schmidt do
> not vote at all but how do we get GIL elected unless we know who
> does not vote for him. SO LET'S FLOOD COOPERSTOWN WITH SOME MAIL
TO
> CHANGE THIS.
> BOARD MEMBERS INCLUDE:
> JANE FORBES CLARK-CHAIRMAN>>>SHE RULES COOPERSTOWN 100%
> DALE A. PETROSKEY-PRESIDENT
> JOE MORGAN, VICE-CHAIRMAN
> ROBIN E. ROBERTS
> G. THOMAS SEAVER
> BROOKS C. ROBINSON Jr.
> EDWARD W. STACK
> GEORGE M. STEINBRENNER III
>
> Remember we are the fans who support Baseball & Cooperstown--so we
> do have some rights and should be heard. Mail is best but e-mails
to
> THE Hall cannot hurt.
>
> Hall address is
> NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME
> 25 MAIN STREET
> COOPERSTOWN NY 13326
>
> LET'S MAKE OUR MEMORIES AND DREAMS A REALITY
>
> JOE D'AGOSTIN
> NORWALK-CT. VIA BROOKLYN -NEW YORK
>

There are about 84 Hall of Fame Vet committee voters who determine
the fate of our hero Gil. To date this new format has put no one in
the Hall and some experts state never will--it is a divide and
conquer approach by the Hall Board much different than the old 15
member Committee directed by Ted Williams--TEDDY BALL.
Those who can vote and the results by candidate can be found at

    http://www.baseballhalloffame.org.hofers_and_honorees/veterans/

The problem is we do not know who is voting or not voting for GIL--
These results are not published and we should write to get this
changed. The Hall will not pass on mail to the 84 but we can write
to the Hall Board and show we want the voters' ballots put on the
Hall web site--true we know that Reggie Jackson & Mike Schmidt do
not vote at all but how do we get GIL elected unless we know who
does not vote for him. SO LET'S FLOOD COOPERSTOWN WITH SOME MAIL TO
CHANGE THIS.
BOARD MEMBERS INCLUDE:
JANE FORBES CLARK-CHAIRMAN>>>SHE RULES COOPERSTOWN 100%
DALE A. PETROSKEY-PRESIDENT
JOE MORGAN, VICE-CHAIRMAN
ROBIN E. ROBERTS
G. THOMAS SEAVER
BROOKS C. ROBINSON Jr.
EDWARD W. STACK
GEORGE M. STEINBRENNER III

Remember we are the fans who support Baseball & Cooperstown--so we
do have some rights and should be heard. Mail is best but e-mails to
THE Hall cannot hurt.

Hall address is
NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME
25 MAIN STREET
COOPERSTOWN NY 13326

LET'S MAKE OUR MEMORIES AND DREAMS A REALITY

JOE D'AGOSTIN
NORWALK-CT. VIA BROOKLYN -NEW YORK

THIS SUMMER FOUR BASEBALL PLAYERS WILL BE HONORED BY THE US POST
OFFICE WITH INDIVIDUAL STAMPS.  CAMPY WILL BE FIRST I AM TOLD AND
THREE OTHERS WILL FOLLOW ONE OF WHICH WILL BE MANTLE

AND DO NOT FORGET THE REESE-ROBINSON STATUE IN FRONT OF METS BROOKLYN
CYCLONES KEYSTONE PARK IN CONEY ISLAND BROOKLYN---THESE WARM DAYS MAKE
THE TRIP EASY AND THE BROOKLYN MUSEUM AND CYCLONES GIFT SHOP IS ALWAYS
OPEN

BE WELL-AND THE BEAT GOES ON

HALL OF FAME

VET COMMITTEE WILL HONOR POSSIBLE TWO FROM NEGRO LEAGUE IN FEBRUARY--
WILL BE RECOGNIZED THIS SUMMER ALONG WITH SUTTER IF ELECTED--ONE COULD
BE MINNIE MINOSO---NOT SURE WHO VOTES

THANK YOU

--- bklynbum14 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> JUST INFORMED OF DUKE'S WEB SITE WHICH INCLUDES
> FAMILY ALBUM FOR
> 2005 AND LINKS TO 50'S BROOKLYN BUMS--VERY
> WORTHWHILE-CLICK BELOW
>
>     http://snideralbum.tripod.com
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> and another worthwhile site is
>
>      http://ebbets-field.com
>
> IF YOU WANT TO E-MAIL SNIDER, THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS
> TO HIS WIFE BEV
>
>    Sniderbev@...
>
>  wishing all happy-healthy new year
>
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JUST INFORMED OF DUKE'S WEB SITE WHICH INCLUDES FAMILY ALBUM FOR
2005 AND LINKS TO 50'S BROOKLYN BUMS--VERY WORTHWHILE-CLICK BELOW

     http://snideralbum.tripod.com

and another worthwhile site is

      http://ebbets-field.com

IF YOU WANT TO E-MAIL SNIDER, THE LAST ONE I HAVE IS TO HIS WIFE BEV

    Sniderbev@...

  wishing all happy-healthy new year

As part of its retrospective on the Brooklyn Dodgers -  Gotham Baseball
(a magazine available on newstands or through their site
www.gothambaseball.com) had one of its columnists devote an article to
the fact that the Hall of Fame is not complete without Hodges being
inducted.

"WE LOVED THE BROOKLYN DODGERS...AND WE STILL DO"

AVAILABLE FROM RON GABRIEL 5512 CORNISH RD. BETHESDA MD 20814-1008

$3 ONE; 2 FOR $5; 5 FOR $11

ALSO SUBSCRIBE TO HIS MONTHLY NEWSLETTER--DODGERS OF BROOKLYN LINE
DRIVES FOR LESS THAN $20 YEAR

YOU WILL BE VERY PLEASED AS I HAVE BEEN FOR 5 YEARS

Found a great site with Brooklyn Dodger wallpaper and very original
songs..

Find it at

http://www.brooklyndreamof55.com/

This story was sent to you by: Ira S.

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Golden gesture is bronzed
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Joe Gergen
SPORTS COLUMNIST

November 2, 2005

In the monument, as in life, color was not a barrier between them. Of course,
the pigment of Jackie Robinson and Pee Wee Reese in the sculpture unveiled
yesterday outside KeySpan Park is the same - bronze.

At the time of the incident it commemorates, however, there was no greater
division in America than the skin tones of the black rookie from California and
the white shortstop from Kentucky.

Even on the Brooklyn Dodgers, where they were thrown together in the spring of
1947, there were objections to general manager Branch Rickey's grand experiment.
As if the jeers, insults and threats from opponents and the general public
weren't enough for a pioneer to endure, Robinson faced the hostility of
teammates who wanted no part of playing with a man from a different race. For
that reason, the simple gesture of friendship extended by Reese on that May
afternoon in the tinderbox of Cincinnati's Crosley Field remains a defining
moment not just in the world of baseball but in the struggle for civil rights.

"I hope that the symbol before us," Robinson's widow, Rachel, said at the Coney
Island ceremony, "will be an inspiration to all who view it, especially young
people."

As noted by Mark Reese, the son of the late Dodgers' captain, this was eight
years before Rosa Parks refused to relinquish her seat on a Montgomery bus to a
white person and 16 years before Martin Luther King made his impassioned speech
from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. The two men, who would play together for
a decade and lead Brooklyn to its only world championship in 1955, ushered
America into an age of equality.

"My father, who came from a heavily segregated part of the country, faced
friends, teammates and, yes, some family members who were opposed to his
stepping on the field with a black man," the younger Reese said. "... he
listened to his heart, not the chorus."

Six years after the idea was proposed by former Newsday columnist Stan Isaacs at
a Bay Ridge memorial service for Reese and seconded in print by the late New
York Post columnist Jack Newfield, it was realized on a beautiful fall morning
in the borough where both players achieved Hall of Fame status. Although New
York mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his successor, Michael Bloomberg, embraced the
concept, there were several delays in the privately financed project. Among them
was the selection of the sculptor, for which a meeting was set at City Hall on
the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. Understandably, it was interrupted and then
postponed.

William Behrends, whose work includes the statue of Willie Mays outside SBC Park
in San Francisco, ultimately was chosen. Although the two eight-foot figures on
a six-sided pedestal were finished too late to accommodate the 50th anniversary
of the Dodgers' lone World Series triumph, the depiction of Reese placing his
arm around Robinson's back has a timeless quality that speaks to all
generations.

"It was a time in U.S. history when you wanted people to stand up," Rachel
Robinson said after the ceremony attended by Mayor Bloomberg, Brooklyn borough
president Marty Markowitz and other elected officials. "That day was very
intense. We'd gotten seriously threatening letters from that area, including one
that was pretty detailed. That gesture was representative of their
relationship."

According to Markowitz, "When Pee Wee Reese threw his arm around Jackie
Robinson's shoulder in this legendary gesture of support, they showed America
and the world that racial discrimination was unacceptable."

Yet, Reese's widow, Dorothy, conceded that "there was no way [Pee Wee] would
believe his simple gesture would become so important."

What made the moment so remarkable, in retrospect, was that outfielder Dixie
Walker was among those who circulated a petition denouncing Robinson's
promotion. And Walker, from Alabama, was Reese's best friend on the team.

"He was also the best man at my mother and father's wedding," said Mark Reese, a
filmmaker. "My father wouldn't sign the petition but there was a lot of
maturation before it got to that point. He had to do some soul-searching. He and
Dixie were never close again."

In his son's remembrance, Pee Wee also enjoyed the irony that some of the people
in the crowd at Crosley Field that day, perhaps some of the people shouting the
vilest things, had made the short drive from his hometown of Louisville. And
Mark Reese noted that, more than two decades later, his father had taken Jackie
and former teammate Don Newcombe to his country club, which had no black
members, for a round of golf.

"They broke down another barrier," he said triumphantly.

Copyright (c) 2005, Newsday, Inc.

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This article originally appeared at:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spgerg024494773nov02,0,94434.column?\
coll=ny-sports-columnists

Visit Newsday online at http://www.newsday.com

IN CONEY ISLAND AT BROOKLYN CYCLONES KEYSTONE PARK AT 9:45AM
(11/1/2005) THE LONG AWAITED ROBINSON/REESE STATUE WILL FINALLY BE
UNVEILED. ACTUALLY IF YOU GO BACK TO 9/11/2001 AT CITY HALL IN THE
MANHATTAN BROOKLYN BRIDGE AREA RALPH BRANCA ATTENDED AND ACTUALLY
EVACUATED A MEETING RE THE ABOVE STATUE---FINALLY IT IS HERE FOR ALL
TO SEE AND ENJOY ALONG WITH THE BROOKLYN DODGER MUSEUM OPEN ALL YEAR
ROUND FOR VISITORS.

HAVE SOME TIME, THEN GO BACK TO CONEY ISLAND AND ENJOY PAST YEARS
MEMORIES OF REAL BASEBALL WHEN IT WAS A GAME.

What if the Dodgers never left Brooklyn?

By JoeP23, Section MLB
Posted on Sat Oct 08, 2005 at 04:02:09 AM EST

The Brooklyn Dodgers were perhaps the most beloved team in all of
sports. Their fans were passionate about their "Bums." To this day the
players are recalled by their first names as if they were members of
the family. And in a way, they were. What if the great villain Walter
O'Malley never brought the team out west?


  The Dodgers had been in Brooklyn since the late 19th century. They
were called a few different nicknames in those days, such as the
Bridegrooms, the Robins, the Flock, the Superbas and the Trolley
Dodgers, and they played at two old time ballparks before Ebbets Field
was built in 1913.
The team always had a great following even when they finished in the
"second division." New York was the king of baseball back then,
fielding the Dodgers and the New York Giants in the National League
and the New York Yankees in the junior circuit.

In the 1940s, the Dodgers started to become a team to reckon with.
They won the National League pennant in 1941, 1947 and 1949, losing
all three times to the cross-town Yankees. They again faced the Bronx
Bombers in 1952 and 1953 and lost.

It was not until 1955 that the Dodgers won their first World Series,
beating the Yankees 2-0 in game 7 on the road. The two teams again
faced each other the following October with the Dodgers reclaiming
their customary position in second place.

Owner Walter O'Malley was trying to find a place to build a new
ballpark. Ebbets Field was terribly outdated.

At the time it was built there was not much of a need for large
parking lots, but in the 1950s most fans drove to the game and the
location inside an inner city precluded empty space for that purpose.
In addition, the capacity needed to be upgraded.

O'Malley suggested a location near Flatbush Avenue and the Long Island
Rail Road. City officials suggested the Flushing area, coincidentally
enough where Shea Stadium would to be built for the "replacement" New
York Mets.

O'Malley said thanks but no thanks. The threat of a move to Los
Angeles was in the air, but no one took it serious. The team was only
two seasons removed from their championship, and one year from their
last pennant. And they were still drawing large crowds. There was no
way that he would actually do it, would he?

Following the 1957 season the unthinkable happened. Not only did the
Dodgers move to California, but also they took the Giants with them to
leave the Metropolitan area without a NL team. The fans were crushed
and there was no way they were going to start rooting for the Yankees.
Everyone had to sit and wait until 1962 when the Mets were born,. But,
what if things turned out differently?

The location where O'Malley wanted to build on is ironically the same
place where New Jersey Nets owner Bruce Ratner wants to build a
basketball arena and move the NBA team back to New York. If this
stadium had been built and the Dodgers had remained in Brooklyn, would
they have won the World Series in 1959, as they did out in Los Angeles?

Sandy Koufax, the Brooklyn native that was on the 1955 team, would
have been even bigger if he pitched in his own backyard. Would Roy
"Campy" Campanella have possibly avoided his tragic automobile
accident, which happened in the winter of 1957? Would Gil Hodges have
produced better numbers to solidify his already Hall of Fame-caliber
statistics?

If the Dodgers stayed, then most likely the Giants would have as well.
The west coast would have been granted big league teams sooner or
later, even if the area had to wait until the expansion era in the
1960s. West coast fans still had the Pacific Coast League to follow
until then.

In 1961, the Los Angeles Angels were added to the American League. The
National League would have had an opening because the Mets were not
going to be in the mix if the Dodgers stayed. Either way, baseball
would have expanded to the west coast. It did not need to have two
established teams uprooted.

The entire face of baseball would have been changed if the Dodgers did
not move. For the people of Brooklyn to be able to celebrate the
championships that were won in LA would have been special. How hard
was it for the Brooklynite to see the team win it all in only their
second season out west when it took them over a half a century to do
it in NY? The back-to-back battles in 1977 and 1978 versus the Yankees
would have been even better if they were called the Subway Series'.

They would have been one of the old time teams that have a rabid fan
base, such as the Red Sox and the Cubs. There would have been a ton of
retired numbers for the likes of Jackie, the Duke of Flatbush, Pee
Wee, Newk, and so many more. Hilda Chester would have been hitting her
cowbell for many more years. The Sym-Phony Band would have been
playing off-key season after season. The Knot Hole Gang would have
lasted a lot longer. Walter O'Malley would have been a hero instead of
public enemy number one.

Baseball will have to live with the fact that the team was stolen from
the people of Brooklyn. The fanatic men, women and children that lost
a part of themselves that September day in 1957 when the announcement
was made will go on. But the game will never be the same without the
Daffiness Boys, The Bums ... the Brooklyn Dodgers.

ON 10/4/2005 MY FRIEND LOU AND I DIE-HARD BROOKLYN/GIL HODGES FANS
VENTURED TO COOPERSTOWN ON THE 50TH ANNIV. OF OUR 1955 VICTORY OVER
THE YANKEES. THE DAY WAS EXCELLENT WEATHER WISE AND TRAFFIC NOT BUSY
AT ALL. WE ARRIVED ABOUT 11AM AND FOUND THE TOWN QUIET BUT
RELATIVELY BUSY FOR A WEEKDAY. NO PARKING AT LEGENDS FIELD-FULL-BUT
A FEW ON THE STREET. WE PARKED AT THE OTSEGO HOTEL WHERE ONE CAN
NEVER GET IN ON HALL OF FAME WEEKEND. WE WERE IN SEARCH FOR THE DUKE
AND OISK WHO WOULD BE HERE FOR THE FIRST HALL DREAM CAMP-TO WELCOME
THOSE WHO PAID $7,500 FOR 5 DAYS. UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE A DAY EARLY
AS THEY WERE TO ARRIVE ON 10/5. WE VENTURED TO TOWN AND FOUND THE
CAMPY/PODRES PITCHING MOUND. IF YOU FACE THE HALL BUILDING IT IS ON
THE LEFT SIDE OUTSIDE OF THE HALL. IT IS A REGULAR PITCHERS MOUND
WITH A STATUE OF CAMPY BEHIND THE PLATE AND PODRES ON THE MOUND
REMEMBERING THE 1955 SERIES VICTORY.
WE TOOK SOME PICTURES AND THEN SPENT TIME ON THE HOTEL PORCH
OVERLOOKING THE HUGE OTSEGO LAKE. BEFORE HEADING HOME WE STOPPED AT
MILFORD TO VISIT THE COOPERSTOWN BREWERY AND GET MY FAVORITE BEER-
BENCHWARMER>PORTER. THEY HAVE OTHER BEERS TOO AND A BREWERY TOUR
PLUS SAMPLES OF ALL BEERS. IT WAS A GREAT DAY EXCEPT WE MISSED THE
DUKE AND OISK BUT 50 YEARS AGO THAT DAY "WHO'S A BUM" LIVES ON.

TWO SITES YOU SHOULD VISIT IF YOU ARE A 1955 BROOKLYN DODGER FAN OR
JUST WANT TO FIND OUT DETAIL INFORMATION ABOUT THE 1955 BROOKLYN
DODGER TEAM AND INDIVIDUALS AND CURRENT BROOKLYN DODGER FANS WHO
RELIVE MEMORIES AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT GIL HODGES TRIP TO COOPERSTOWN

    1955 BROOKLYN DODGER TEAM AND INDIVIDUAL STATS

      http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BRO/1955.shtml

   CURRENT HODGES SUPPORTERS AND BROOKLYN FANS

     http://www.ebbets-field.com/forum/index.php

enjoy and be well

KEYSPAN PARK IN CONEY ISLAND HOME OF METS BROOKLYN CYCLONES WILL SOON
(AUGUST??)BE THE HOME OF THAT FAMOUS 1947 SCENE OF JACKIE AND PEE WEE.
IT WILL BE IN FRONT OF STADIUM I BELIEVE-EXACT DATE UNKNOWN BUT
SHOULD
BE IN AUGUST
AND IN COOPERSTOWN
THERE IS A PITCHER'S MOUND WITH THE PITCHER PODRES PITCHING TO
CATCHER -CAMPY AL LA 1955 WORLD SERIES--IT IS OUTDOORS I BELIEVE AND
WAS DONATED BY OWNER OF THE BROOKLYN DINER IN MANHATTAN.

THAT OCTOBER 4 GALA IN BROOKLYN IS EITHER ON HOLD OR CANCELLED PER
NEWSLETTER ON
http://ebbets-field.com

THE DUKE WILL BE IN COOPERSTOWN AROUND OCT 4 FOR THE FIRST EVER DREAM
CAMP AT ABOUT $5-6,000 PER FOR ABOUT 5 DAYS OF BASEBALL FUN AND
INSTRUCTION AT LEGENDS FIELD