i have some old steel cams i would like to get reground for a super

stock motor could someone give me some names or numbers of  a good

cam grinder or maybe buy new thanks

To some people this may be a stupid question. ihave a 14horse briggs

stock what would be the best way to upsize the cam and which cams

would work and would i have to move to another class if i changed the

cam thanks mike

no stupid questions, just stupid answers. get acopy of your club rule book. some

briggs service manuals have camshaft specs.



mimedeta44 <mimedeta44@...> wrote:To some people this may be a stupid

question. ihave a 14horse briggs

stock what would be the best way to upsize the cam and which cams

would work and would i have to move to another class if i changed the

cam thanks mike











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dose the vogle stock grind cam work better in a stock motor then the

18hp cam will?

Any thoughts on cams for the single kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?

The  617 lakota has been working fairly well for us!



Ian M Campbell <barnman@...> wrote:          Any thoughts on cams for

the single kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?















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All other engine specs being equal, the regrinds (Vogel, Lakota or whomever ),

will outperform the 18 hp cam.  Usually by a very noticeable margin (We've seen

as much as 30 feet difference).



   For governed, stock classes it really has become what you can get buy with and

not get caught.



bob boisvert <bobslx50@...> wrote:

           The 617 lakota has been working fairly well for us!



Ian M Campbell <barnman@...> wrote: Any thoughts on cams for the single

kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?



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Don't tell us feet difference. Tell us dyno numbers. Were the

tractors weighted the same? Did they drive in the same place on the

track? Were their tires cut the same with the same tire pressure? Did

they run the same gear? We want more info than mere speculation.

Maybe it was the "blinky boxes" huh? Or maybe if you run an

aftermarket cam your required to turn down the valve stems??







--- In gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com, Randall Kesselring

<rpkpulling@...> wrote:

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> All other engine specs being equal, the regrinds (Vogel, Lakota or

whomever ), will outperform the 18 hp cam.  Usually by a very

noticeable margin (We've seen as much as 30 feet difference).

>

>   For governed, stock classes it really has become what you can get

buy with and not get caught.

>

> bob boisvert <bobslx50@...> wrote:

>           The 617 lakota has been working fairly well for us!

>

> Ian M Campbell <barnman@...> wrote: Any thoughts on cams for the

single kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

> regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?

>

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And that is why nobody shares information on this forum.



--- In gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Pheiffer"

<barrypheiffer@...> wrote:

>

> Don't tell us feet difference. Tell us dyno numbers. Were the

> tractors weighted the same? Did they drive in the same place on the

> track? Were their tires cut the same with the same tire pressure? Did

> they run the same gear? We want more info than mere speculation.

> Maybe it was the "blinky boxes" huh? Or maybe if you run an

> aftermarket cam your required to turn down the valve stems??

>

>

>

> --- In gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com, Randall Kesselring

> <rpkpulling@> wrote:

> >

> > All other engine specs being equal, the regrinds (Vogel, Lakota or

> whomever ), will outperform the 18 hp cam.  Usually by a very

> noticeable margin (We've seen as much as 30 feet difference).

> >

> >   For governed, stock classes it really has become what you can get

> buy with and not get caught.

> >

> > bob boisvert <bobslx50@> wrote:

> >           The 617 lakota has been working fairly well for us!

> >

> > Ian M Campbell <barnman@> wrote: Any thoughts on cams for the

> single kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

> > regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?

> >

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did i miss something here  the guy ask a simple question and gets maulded!!!! i

thought this foruem was to exchange thoughts and ideas.......christ remind me

not to ask....give me the question again i could b wrong....it has happened b4



arthur_whaley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:          And that is why nobody

shares information on this forum.



--- In gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com, "Barry Pheiffer"

<barrypheiffer@...> wrote:

>

> Don't tell us feet difference. Tell us dyno numbers. Were the

> tractors weighted the same? Did they drive in the same place on the

> track? Were their tires cut the same with the same tire pressure? Did

> they run the same gear? We want more info than mere speculation.

> Maybe it was the "blinky boxes" huh? Or maybe if you run an

> aftermarket cam your required to turn down the valve stems??

>

>

>

> --- In gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com, Randall Kesselring

> <rpkpulling@> wrote:

> >

> > All other engine specs being equal, the regrinds (Vogel, Lakota or

> whomever ), will outperform the 18 hp cam. Usually by a very

> noticeable margin (We've seen as much as 30 feet difference).

> >

> > For governed, stock classes it really has become what you can get

> buy with and not get caught.

> >

> > bob boisvert <bobslx50@> wrote:

> > The 617 lakota has been working fairly well for us!

> >

> > Ian M Campbell <barnman@> wrote: Any thoughts on cams for the

> single kohler series , 18 hp verse vogel

> > regrinds ,lakota cam for the 4000 rpm limit?

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Just wanting info on the vogel better than 18hp cam? if  there was a noticable

diffrance in hp over the 18hp cam?

I talked to Kevin Vogel and i think he told me it can be up to 2hp difference if

i remember right.



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, vic <wubanator@...> wrote:



From: vic <wubanator@...>

Subject: [Garden Tractor Pulling] cams

To: gardentractorpulling@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:10 PM



































       Just wanting info on the vogel better than 18hp cam? if  there was a

noticable diffrance in hp over the 18hp cam?































































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