Are you able to email a cue sheet for the 200?

Future brevets will depend on how my neck does on the 200.

PL




PLMHayes@... wrote:

>
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> information about our brevets.
>
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> following form and email it back to me. If you have any questions
> after reading the website then please contact me. Hope to see you this
> spring.
>
> Mike DeLong
>
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>
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I am part of the save by the bell club
If you send in the old crashed helmet youll have to pay$40 for a
replacement of the same (that was when i had and EVO)

--- In garandon@yahoogroups.com, Cathy Connell <rxcathy@m...> wrote:
> I think Bell has a one year warranty on their helmets. If you have
the receipt and crash within that one year time frame they give you
a replacement either free or discounted.
>
> Glad to hear you aren't seriously hurt.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Wolff Den <mwolff@j...>
> Sent: Mar 2, 2004 11:10 PM
> To: garandon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [garandon] UPD!
>
> I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.
Lou and
> I were about a third of the way into our usual Tuesday evening
ride.
> Coasting up to a stop sign I briefly heard thwap, thwap, thwap
rapidly
> followed by me getting slammed headfirst into the pavement!  It
appears
> that front of my pair of venerable (and old) GL330's
failed/buckled and
> had a hard time continuing to rotate between my front brake pads!
>
> Didn't hit anything in the road at that time, it was smooth and
freshly
> paved.  I guess the rim was just past it's service life.  It
happened so
> fast I didn't even have time to extend my palms before impact, all
the
> knuckles on my right hand are scuffed as is the knuckle on my left
thumb
> from the impact w/ the pavement.  Amazingly, the  bike and that
brand
> new Brooks Pro are unscuffed as thoughtfully I cushioned their
landing.
>
> It was the first ride for a brand new Bell lid.  It only got to
see 7
> miles of the Westside before retiring.  But it did it's job quite
> admirably, it's all crushed in on the right front.  I've got a
stiff
> neck, a scuffed up right shoulder, and a really stiff/sore right
thumb
> to go w/ the knuckles, but I don't think anything is broken other
than
> the rim.
>
> The tire, an old Continental Sprinter, peeled off the buckled rim
> leaving it's base tape still glued in place, and it's still
holding full
> pressure!  The left brake pad took the big hit, its mounting bolt
was
> bent into a horseshoe shape and pulled from the brake block.
>
> I guess I joined that old "saved by the Bell" club.  I'm pretty
sure I
> wouldn't be able to type this right now if I hadn't had it on.
>
> Be careful out there.  MEW
>
>
>
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> ( )/'(*)

That's cute. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: mwolff@...
Sent: Mar 3, 2004 11:44 AM
To: garandon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [garandon] UPD!

Tom, thanks for the suggestion.  Probably not necessary as
Janey has been great about wearing her helmet when riding
her bike or playing on skates.  But Dad just might have
learned a thing or two about slipping off down the block to
the bike shop sans cranium protection.

I must have looked a bit rough this morning headed out the
door to work.  Janey handed me the last banana in the house
saying "here Dad, you need this for your lunch today"!

MEW


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  _-\_<,
( )/'(*)

Tom, thanks for the suggestion.  Probably not necessary as
Janey has been great about wearing her helmet when riding
her bike or playing on skates.  But Dad just might have
learned a thing or two about slipping off down the block to
the bike shop sans cranium protection.

I must have looked a bit rough this morning headed out the
door to work.  Janey handed me the last banana in the house
saying "here Dad, you need this for your lunch today"!

MEW

Mark:

I'm sorry to hear you went down but glad to hear that you are O.K.  Instead
of sending your helmet back to Bell, you might want to consider hanging on
to it for show and tell demonstration purposes with Janey and Ian.  Telling
your children that they should wear their helmet because it will protect
their noggin and showing them how your helmet protected your noggin when you
crashed are vastly different ways of imparting a potentially life saving
lesson.  Just a thought.

Take care,

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth C. Davis" <kennethclydedavis@...>
To: <garandon@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: [garandon] UPD!


> Hello MEW,
>
> You might want to check the store where you purchased the helmet to see
> if they have a free
> replacement policy. I went down on my bike about three weeks ago and
> crushed a Trek helmet
> that I had purchased just three weeks earlier. It turns out that Trek
> has a one year replacement
> policy and the store replaced my helmet and took care of sending the old
> one back to Trek.
>
> Glad you didn't get seriously hurt. I'm still nursing very sore ribs
> from my fall.
>
> Ken
>
> The Wolff Den wrote:
>
> > I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.

Wow!  Glad you were not seriously hurt.

I used to run 330 tubbies in my racing days.  But for me, I found them not
really beefy enough for everyday riding.  You must of treated them better
than I, for them to have lasted so long!

Davy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Wolff Den [mailto:mwolff@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:11 PM
> To: garandon@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [garandon] UPD!
>
> I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.  Lou and
> I were about a third of the way into our usual Tuesday evening ride.
> Coasting up to a stop sign I briefly heard thwap, thwap, thwap rapidly
> followed by me getting slammed headfirst into the pavement!  It appears
> that front of my pair of venerable (and old) GL330's failed/buckled and
> had a hard time continuing to rotate between my front brake pads!
>
> Didn't hit anything in the road at that time, it was smooth and freshly
> paved.  I guess the rim was just past it's service life.  It happened so
> fast I didn't even have time to extend my palms before impact, all the
> knuckles on my right hand are scuffed as is the knuckle on my left thumb
> from the impact w/ the pavement.  Amazingly, the  bike and that brand
> new Brooks Pro are unscuffed as thoughtfully I cushioned their landing.
>
> It was the first ride for a brand new Bell lid.  It only got to see 7
> miles of the Westside before retiring.  But it did it's job quite
> admirably, it's all crushed in on the right front.  I've got a stiff
> neck, a scuffed up right shoulder, and a really stiff/sore right thumb
> to go w/ the knuckles, but I don't think anything is broken other than
> the rim.
>
> The tire, an old Continental Sprinter, peeled off the buckled rim
> leaving it's base tape still glued in place, and it's still holding full
> pressure!  The left brake pad took the big hit, its mounting bolt was
> bent into a horseshoe shape and pulled from the brake block.
>
> I guess I joined that old "saved by the Bell" club.  I'm pretty sure I
> wouldn't be able to type this right now if I hadn't had it on.
>
> Be careful out there.  MEW
>
>
>
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In a message dated 3/3/2004 9:21:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, mwolff@...
writes:

>  I do plan to
> be there to provide support to Jim and the participants
> however.

That's great! I'm sure Jim will appreciate the help.

Mike D.

Actually the literature provided with the new Bell suggested
they have a "crash damage" replacement policy.  Return the
damaged one w/ a check for $25 for a replacement.  At least
that's what I think it said.  Who would have thought I would
need it so soon.

On the helmet mounted light; in the past I have looked at
the spiffy slot mount that could easily be removed from the
strap mount and screwed into the back of a helmet shell to
easily mount and dismount an Eclipse or Cateye LED.
Something in the back of my head suggested it was not a
prudent idea.  Last night's incident confirmed it.  I have
used velcro straps to mount an Eclipse to the rear of my lid
in the past, but I don't think I will anymore.

And on the wheels and bad luck; at least this time it wasn't
a wheel I built.  I'd guess brake pad abrasion thinned out
the rim sidewalls.  Oddly enough, the GL330 is an old
school, non-machined sidewall rim and there is no
perceptable wear evident in the brake track.  I've replaced
a few ATB rims when the brake track wear became evident in
the past w/ no failures of this sort.  Guess I just need to
step up my wheel rebuilding program.  Anyone else out there
old enough to remember Mavic's replacement rim policy?  Way
back when, this incident would have netted me a free
replacement hoop.

Lastly, no I didn't plan to ride the 400 this weekend.  If I
had this would have derailed it thought.  I don't think my
right hand would be up to the task right now.  I do plan to
be there to provide support to Jim and the participants
however.  Hope to see some of you there!

MEW

--- The Wolff Den <mwmwolffojoimailom> wrote:
> Dave, how did you mount it on your helmet?
>
> MEW
   I found a strap in my parts drawer made of a kind of
rubbery substance with a veVelcrolosure. I cut a short
slit in it and forced it over the square mounting
ththingien the back of the light, then ran the strap
through the back vents of the helmet and buckled it on
the inside. Easy to put on and take off. I had planned
to affix the light to the strap with a machine screw
and washer, but that strap worked very well just
cutting the slit and forcing it over the mount. I've
been told that it's quite effective.
   I also have a "halo" on the helmet. It's a
reflective band like a head band that stretches around
the helmet and is also very visible from 380 degrees.
(Plus a reflective vest with a tail light clipped to
the middle of the back, a reflective band on each
ankle, and one or more tail lights on the bike. I've
also put  reflectors on the back of my pedals.) My
wife papassede as I was on my way home from work the
other night, and she said I'm very visible to traffic.

=====
"The fool thinks he has won a battle when he bullies with harsh speech, but
knowing how to be forbearing alone makes one victorious."

                                                  David Bundrick

I think Bell has a one year warranty on their helmets. If you have the receipt
and crash within that one year time frame they give you a replacement either
free or discounted.

Glad to hear you aren't seriously hurt.

-----Original Message-----
From: The Wolff Den <mwolff@...>
Sent: Mar 2, 2004 11:10 PM
To: garandon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [garandon] UPD!

I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.  Lou and
I were about a third of the way into our usual Tuesday evening ride.
Coasting up to a stop sign I briefly heard thwap, thwap, thwap rapidly
followed by me getting slammed headfirst into the pavement!  It appears
that front of my pair of venerable (and old) GL330's failed/buckled and
had a hard time continuing to rotate between my front brake pads!

Didn't hit anything in the road at that time, it was smooth and freshly
paved.  I guess the rim was just past it's service life.  It happened so
fast I didn't even have time to extend my palms before impact, all the
knuckles on my right hand are scuffed as is the knuckle on my left thumb
from the impact w/ the pavement.  Amazingly, the  bike and that brand
new Brooks Pro are unscuffed as thoughtfully I cushioned their landing.

It was the first ride for a brand new Bell lid.  It only got to see 7
miles of the Westside before retiring.  But it did it's job quite
admirably, it's all crushed in on the right front.  I've got a stiff
neck, a scuffed up right shoulder, and a really stiff/sore right thumb
to go w/ the knuckles, but I don't think anything is broken other than
the rim.

The tire, an old Continental Sprinter, peeled off the buckled rim
leaving it's base tape still glued in place, and it's still holding full
pressure!  The left brake pad took the big hit, its mounting bolt was
bent into a horseshoe shape and pulled from the brake block.

I guess I joined that old "saved by the Bell" club.  I'm pretty sure I
wouldn't be able to type this right now if I hadn't had it on.

Be careful out there.  MEW




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    __o
  _-\_<,
( )/'(*)

Hello MEW,

You might want to check the store where you purchased the helmet to see
if they have a free
replacement policy. I went down on my bike about three weeks ago and
crushed a Trek helmet
that I had purchased just three weeks earlier. It turns out that Trek
has a one year replacement
policy and the store replaced my helmet and took care of sending the old
one back to Trek.

Glad you didn't get seriously hurt. I'm still nursing very sore ribs
from my fall.

Ken

The Wolff Den wrote:

> I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.  Lou and
> I were about a third of the way into our usual Tuesday evening ride.
> Coasting up to a stop sign I briefly heard thwap, thwap, thwap rapidly
> followed by me getting slammed headfirst into the pavement!  It appears
> that front of my pair of venerable (and old) GL330's failed/buckled and
> had a hard time continuing to rotate between my front brake pads!
>
> Didn't hit anything in the road at that time, it was smooth and freshly
> paved.  I guess the rim was just past it's service life.  It happened so
> fast I didn't even have time to extend my palms before impact, all the
> knuckles on my right hand are scuffed as is the knuckle on my left thumb
> from the impact w/ the pavement.  Amazingly, the  bike and that brand
> new Brooks Pro are unscuffed as thoughtfully I cushioned their landing.
>
> It was the first ride for a brand new Bell lid.  It only got to see 7
> miles of the Westside before retiring.  But it did it's job quite
> admirably, it's all crushed in on the right front.  I've got a stiff
> neck, a scuffed up right shoulder, and a really stiff/sore right thumb
> to go w/ the knuckles, but I don't think anything is broken other than
> the rim.
>
> The tire, an old Continental Sprinter, peeled off the buckled rim
> leaving it's base tape still glued in place, and it's still holding full
> pressure!  The left brake pad took the big hit, its mounting bolt was
> bent into a horseshoe shape and pulled from the brake block.
>
> I guess I joined that old "saved by the Bell" club.  I'm pretty sure I
> wouldn't be able to type this right now if I hadn't had it on.
>
> Be careful out there.  MEW
>
>
>
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I experienced a rather sudden Un-Planned Dismount this evening.  Lou and
I were about a third of the way into our usual Tuesday evening ride.
Coasting up to a stop sign I briefly heard thwap, thwap, thwap rapidly
followed by me getting slammed headfirst into the pavement!  It appears
that front of my pair of venerable (and old) GL330's failed/buckled and
had a hard time continuing to rotate between my front brake pads!

Didn't hit anything in the road at that time, it was smooth and freshly
paved.  I guess the rim was just past it's service life.  It happened so
fast I didn't even have time to extend my palms before impact, all the
knuckles on my right hand are scuffed as is the knuckle on my left thumb
from the impact w/ the pavement.  Amazingly, the  bike and that brand
new Brooks Pro are unscuffed as thoughtfully I cushioned their landing.

It was the first ride for a brand new Bell lid.  It only got to see 7
miles of the Westside before retiring.  But it did it's job quite
admirably, it's all crushed in on the right front.  I've got a stiff
neck, a scuffed up right shoulder, and a really stiff/sore right thumb
to go w/ the knuckles, but I don't think anything is broken other than
the rim.

The tire, an old Continental Sprinter, peeled off the buckled rim
leaving it's base tape still glued in place, and it's still holding full
pressure!  The left brake pad took the big hit, its mounting bolt was
bent into a horseshoe shape and pulled from the brake block.

I guess I joined that old "saved by the Bell" club.  I'm pretty sure I
wouldn't be able to type this right now if I hadn't had it on.

Be careful out there.  MEW

Dave, how did you mount it on your helmet?

MEW

Performance makes a led, very bright, rear light that will mount with a
quick disconnect on the seat stay. It use 3 AAA batteries that come with it
and is on sale right now for $14.99, item no. 40-1793C, is called Viewpoint
flare compact LED light. Cary Way
----- Original Message -----
From: <mwolff@...>
To: <garandon@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [garandon] Rear Downtube Lighting...


> I'll add my two cents to this one:  I concur with Greg, sort
> of.  I like a pair of seatstay mounted led lamps.  They
> weight almost nothing and having a backup in place is cheap
> insurance.  Consider adding several inches of reflective
> tape to your chainstays as well.
>
>  Have had problems in the past with the Vistalight Eclipse,
> they seem to die after a few years useage, my older models
> did anyway.  I switched to a pair of the Cateye TL-LD600's.
> see "http://tinyurl.com/2k2fr"  The Cateye's are almost
> offensive they are so bright!  At PBP when I was in large
> groups, I only ran one to keep from blinding following
> riders.
>
> If you use the Eclipse, tape 'em for sure or you'll loose
> 'em.
>
> MEW
>
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Ian, yes the mount allows for either orientation.  And so
far they have stayed firmly in place.

MEW

Does this light mount vertically?  It looks from the photo that horizontal
mounting might interfere with spokes.  Ian

>I switched to a pair of the Cateye TL-LD600's.
>see "http://tinyurl.com/2k2fr"  The Cateye's are almost
>offensive they are so bright!

In a message dated 3/2/2004 2:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ashby_todd@... writes:

> Does anyone know where you can buy the lights that go on
> the rear downtube
> of the bike?

The Eclipse taillight will fit most anywhere. I've heard that the new Cateye
taillights are very bright. I believe they can be attached to the seat stays.
REI probably carries one or both.

Mike D.

The Vistalite Total Eclipse can be mounted there. It
has 7 LEDs and is very bright, but as Greg noted it is
weak and I've had several break at the clip just from
bumps. When that happens, there is a little piece of
plastic that acts as a switch that falls out and gets
lost, so the whole light is useless.
  I have a Cateye LD600 mounted on a seat stay. It has
5 LEDs all in a row and is the brightest tail light
I've seen. It uses 2 AAA batteries. I'd recommend that
one. (I also have one mounted on the back of my
helmet.)
    When mounting these lights on a seat stay, you
might have to build the circumference up. A strip of
old inner tube works, as sill any number of things.
Use your imagination.
-

=====
"The fool thinks he has won a battle when he bullies with harsh speech, but
knowing how to be forbearing alone makes one victorious."

                                                  David Bundrick

I'll add my two cents to this one:  I concur with Greg, sort
of.  I like a pair of seatstay mounted led lamps.  They
weight almost nothing and having a backup in place is cheap
insurance.  Consider adding several inches of reflective
tape to your chainstays as well.

  Have had problems in the past with the Vistalight Eclipse,
they seem to die after a few years useage, my older models
did anyway.  I switched to a pair of the Cateye TL-LD600's.
see "http://tinyurl.com/2k2fr"  The Cateye's are almost
offensive they are so bright!  At PBP when I was in large
groups, I only ran one to keep from blinding following
riders.

If you use the Eclipse, tape 'em for sure or you'll loose
'em.

MEW

Does anyone know where you can buy the lights that go on the rear downtube
of the bike?

I would like to lighten up the back.  I have seen these on bikes, but I
haven't been able to find them at Performace Bike, Nashbar, or REI.

Any help is appreciated.

Todd Ashby

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Last year I used a Carridice bag almost exclusively
for all my brevets and PBP.  I also purchased one of
the new Baggins "Hoss" saddlebags from Rivendell.  The
bag is brand new, but after it arrived I've considered
switching to the "Little Joe" bag.  Rather than ship
the Hoss back to Rivendell (who've got enough
financial problems without having to deal with return
shipments) I thought I'd offer to sell it for the
equivalent cost of the Little Joe.  So for $90,
you can get a $145 Hoss bag, capable of carrying
two 1-gallon milk jugs.  Contact me off-line
for more info.

Jeff Bauer
Nashville, Tennessee

Saddle sores your ass!


--- DMayne4692@... wrote:
> Kevin you going to do Gainesville 400k the week after Sebring. WOW. Good job
> at Sebring though the first 24hr I did could only ride 19hrs(saddle sores).
> I'm going to Peter Norris's 400k in Tavares the next week. Good luck and look
> for you in the future again.
>
> Don
>


=====
see ya,
Peter

"Let's stop for dinner in 80 or 90 miles."

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