Count four centuries for me since Jan 1--the last 4 days of Gator
Hellweek in FL. Photos coming soon... Great variety of riding, but a lot
of major speed owing to visitations from Marc Patten and Rob Kish.
24-26mph  flat cruising for miles on end is a rush!

Who's riding this weekend? If no official takers, I'll be at Silk Sheets
for the usual 60 with whoever shows up, then head out for another 40
mile loop after. My last ride for a while in the US since I head to
London on Sunday for a few weeks business.

Barclay


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In a message dated 1/5/00 2:48:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ming.tai@... writes:

<< There is an alternative but maybe not the best idea
  There is a 800 free call line that we can sign up to and there is an
  answering machine / mail box and can be notified via pager.  If you like ill
  get more info. >>

Please do. The catch here is that we only need it for 2 days (or perhaps 1
month)

Mike D.

There is an alternative but maybe not the best idea
There is a 800 free call line that we can sign up to and there is an
answering machine / mail box and can be notified via pager.  If you like ill
get more info.

	 -----Original Message-----
	 From: PLMHayes@... [SMTP:PLMHayes@...]
	 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 9:29 AM
	 To: garandon@onelist.com
	 Subject: [garandon] Cell Phone?

	 In a message dated 1/5/00 8:29:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
	 puppetstark@... writes:

	 << Being the first.  by the way, I should have a cell phone then, so
that we
	 can call the medi-vac >>

	 Very coincidentally you've broached a subject that I was going to
eventually
	 pose to the list. For the Gainesville 200km & 300km I'd like to
borrow a cell
	 phone to serve as the sag number. This is the number someone would
call to
	 either report that he/she is dropping out or needs to be picked up
(SHAME,
	 SHAME, SHAME...). Since we had a 100% completion rate last year, I'd
hope
	 there would be no such calls this year. I hope to have 2 persons
supporting
	 both rides with the cell phone person staying in the call corridors.
I would
	 of course pay for any billed calls and also pick up all of April's
monthly
	 rate for its use on April 1st & April 15th.

	 If anyone thinks he can spare his phone for those two days, please
contact me.

	 Thanks,
	 Mike DeLong

	 PS: I DO like the sardines suggestion!

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In a message dated 1/5/00 8:29:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
puppetstark@... writes:

<< Being the first.  by the way, I should have a cell phone then, so that we
can call the medi-vac >>

Very coincidentally you've broached a subject that I was going to eventually
pose to the list. For the Gainesville 200km & 300km I'd like to borrow a cell
phone to serve as the sag number. This is the number someone would call to
either report that he/she is dropping out or needs to be picked up (SHAME,
SHAME, SHAME...). Since we had a 100% completion rate last year, I'd hope
there would be no such calls this year. I hope to have 2 persons supporting
both rides with the cell phone person staying in the call corridors. I would
of course pay for any billed calls and also pick up all of April's monthly
rate for its use on April 1st & April 15th.

If anyone thinks he can spare his phone for those two days, please contact me.

Thanks,
Mike DeLong

PS: I DO like the sardines suggestion!

For a little extra kick, add a few sardines to the mix. Can't stomach
sardines? anchovies would be a fine suppliment. Not only do these foods
have just about the perfect fat to proteen ratio, but they ensure that
noone will be taking unfair advantage by riding your wheel. also instead
of a boreing chedder, you might consider a good brick cheese, a
lindberg, or some other type that smells like peoples feet. with these
cheeses, you won't even have to pull out the sandwich from your pouch to
check for freshness. When it gets thouroughly roasted from the body heat
producecd by those awesome cycling muscles, you'll be the second to know
it. penny of course Being the first.  by the way, I should have a cell
phone then, so that we can call the medi-vac when the mayo bites back.
all together now to the tune of "cocain", When you want an excuse 'cause
your legs aren't that loose------- Tomain.   happy riding,     Walter

PLMHayes@... wrote:
>
> From: PLMHayes@...
>
> In a message dated 1/3/00 11:20:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> puppetstark@... writes:
>
> << You have  given me a new mantra for the upcoming training rides i hope to
> make, NO MERCY! >>
>
> I'm not sure that the training rides are quite as "spirited" as you're
> anticipating. Last year we'd spend half the ride debating the next store stop
> and the other half easy pedalling to aid digestion.
>
> Speaking of "No Mercy", I'm thinking of trying my hand at HOME-MADE pimento
> cheese this year!
>
> At this point we have two Saturday training rides for January. Greg Masterson
> will lead a ride on Jan. 15th and Lee Nagel has spoken for Jan. 29th. Anyone
> who'd like to pick up Jan 22 or Jan 8, speak up soon. Starting places and
> times to be announced.
>
> Mike D.
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Hi mike
I mapped out a route  last nite
Ill calculate it and probably request for some suggestions how many miles
and the amount of "pave" is allowed ?

Sometime in february id like to get a ride in Gwinett county - some of the
roads you and I rode together and some not

	 -----Original Message-----
	 From: PLMHayes@... [SMTP:PLMHayes@...]
	 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 7:46 AM
	 To: garandon@onelist.com
	 Subject: [garandon] Training Rides

	 From: PLMHayes@...

	 In a message dated 1/3/00 11:20:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
	 puppetstark@... writes:

	 << You have  given me a new mantra for the upcoming training rides i
hope to
	 make, NO MERCY! >>

	 I'm not sure that the training rides are quite as "spirited" as
you're
	 anticipating. Last year we'd spend half the ride debating the next
store stop
	 and the other half easy pedalling to aid digestion.

	 Speaking of "No Mercy", I'm thinking of trying my hand at HOME-MADE
pimento
	 cheese this year!

	 At this point we have two Saturday training rides for January. Greg
Masterson
	 will lead a ride on Jan. 15th and Lee Nagel has spoken for Jan.
29th. Anyone
	 who'd like to pick up Jan 22 or Jan 8, speak up soon. Starting
places and
	 times to be announced.

	 Mike D.

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In a message dated 1/3/00 11:20:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
puppetstark@... writes:

<< You have  given me a new mantra for the upcoming training rides i hope to
make, NO MERCY! >>

I'm not sure that the training rides are quite as "spirited" as you're
anticipating. Last year we'd spend half the ride debating the next store stop
and the other half easy pedalling to aid digestion.

Speaking of "No Mercy", I'm thinking of trying my hand at HOME-MADE pimento
cheese this year!

At this point we have two Saturday training rides for January. Greg Masterson
will lead a ride on Jan. 15th and Lee Nagel has spoken for Jan. 29th. Anyone
who'd like to pick up Jan 22 or Jan 8, speak up soon. Starting places and
times to be announced.

Mike D.

If you count sarturday and sunday, yes. I got no nibles for the century,
so I decided to do a ride a 10:00 from challenge schwinn. Ed Barns,
buck, Lee etc.. Only Ed and one other shoowed up, and after about 6 easy
miles ed dissapeared. The two of us put in 70 miles out past Arabia mt.,
out hwy 212 to smyrna rd then back in by way of the tucker ride
backwards. Sunday we did about 34 miles out around Greyson with our club
BCA, mostly steady, but with a little spirited screwing around. You have
given me a new mantra for the upcoming training rides i hope to make, NO
MERCY! See you out there.                              Walter

David Bundrick wrote:
>
> From: David Bundrick <dbundric@...>
>
> ** Proprietary **
>
> >>> <PLMHayes@...> 01/03/00 08:30am >>>
> From: PLMHayes@...
>
> <Anybody log a century over the weekend? >
>
> Nope, unless you give credit for a hilly 10 km Atlanta Track Club race on New
Years Day!! I felt every extra holiday pound on the hills.
>
> <The Ga. Randonneur Century Competition is officially under way. How many can
you log between Jan 1st and Aug 17th (start of BMB)?>
>
> I ended up 1999 with  pretty megar mileage - just under 7,000 miles. However,
over 3600 miles were direct car replacement miles. I hope to top that this year.
There is a possibility of moving from Forest Park to Tucker; if that happens, my
commute will jump from 11 miles to around 16 - 18.
>
> < Ming has made me promise not to reveal it's weight - I'll only say that as
he was warming up Saturday I accidentally sneezed and blew Ming & his bike about
5 feet across the pavement. >
>
> What would happen if a fat boy like me sat on Ming's bike? Crunch ....
>
>                                                                 David Bundrick
>                                                                 Atlanta
>
> *When the revolution comes, will your bicycle be ready?*
>
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In a message dated 1/3/00 9:36:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Greg.Masterson@... writes:

<<      It's one thing to have a chartreuse crankbait in your tacklebox.  But
       to adjust to the weather and rip it on the riprap on an overcast foggy
       morning shows that Ming knows how to use it. >>

I wish I could take a little credit here but I was busy loading my bike back
into my car when Ming starts yelling "GET THE NET!  GET THE NET!"

MD

Ming's Saturday AM ride was a warmup for our Saturday afternoon ride out
north of Lawrenceville..........38+ miles, rolling hills led by Mike Owens.
The new "groupo" is pretty......

Paul Logue
Suwanee


-----Original Message-----
From: PLMHayes@... <PLMHayes@...>
To: garandon@onelist.com <garandon@onelist.com>
Date: Monday, January 03, 2000 8:30 AM
Subject: [garandon] Any Weekend Centuries?


>From: PLMHayes@...
>
>
>Anybody log a century over the weekend? (Walter?) The Ga. Randonneur
Century
>Competition is officially under way. How many can you log between Jan 1st
and
>Aug 17th (start of BMB)?
>
>Ming proved himself to be a early threat for the Bassmaster Award as he was
>busily claiming warm bodies for randonneurring after the finish of
Saturday's
>New Year's Day ride.  He was ripping a shallow-running, chartruse crankbait
>on the riprap, what with the unseasonably warm temps. I personally
witnessed
>him get 5 strikes but we'll see what he shows up with in April.
>
>Ming's new bike has made it's official appearance and it's a Merlin
>ExtraLight outfitted with the Dura-Ace 25th Anniversary grouppo. (Mind you,
>this is his rain bike.)  Ming has made me promise not to reveal it's
weight -
>I'll only say that as he was warming up Saturday I accidentally sneezed and
>blew Ming & his bike about 5 feet across the pavement.
>
>Mike D.
>
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This is my official resignation from the bassmaster of the year
      competition as well as the climber of the year competition.

      I entered the year coming off a personal best 7452 miles in 99, and a
      Super Randonneur title with high hopes.   However, even on Jan 3 I can
      already see it would be an exercise in futility to enter into
      competition against such superior fire power.

      It's one thing to have a chartreuse crankbait in your tacklebox.  But
      to adjust to the weather and rip it on the riprap on an overcast foggy
      morning shows that Ming knows how to use it.

      Now for his other weapon, the "Merlin ExtraLight outfitted with the
      Dura-Ace 25th Anniversary grouppo" I can only bow my handlebars to the
      new king of the block.

      On second thought I withdraw my resignation and will battle for second
      place, and the honor to see Ming use his weapons.

** Proprietary **



>>> <PLMHayes@...> 01/03/00 08:30am >>>
From: PLMHayes@...


<Anybody log a century over the weekend? >

Nope, unless you give credit for a hilly 10 km Atlanta Track Club race on New
Years Day!! I felt every extra holiday pound on the hills.

<The Ga. Randonneur Century Competition is officially under way. How many can
you log between Jan 1st and Aug 17th (start of BMB)?>

I ended up 1999 with  pretty megar mileage - just under 7,000 miles. However,
over 3600 miles were direct car replacement miles. I hope to top that this year.
There is a possibility of moving from Forest Park to Tucker; if that happens, my
commute will jump from 11 miles to around 16 - 18.

< Ming has made me promise not to reveal it's weight - I'll only say that as he
was warming up Saturday I accidentally sneezed and blew Ming & his bike about 5
feet across the pavement. >

What would happen if a fat boy like me sat on Ming's bike? Crunch ....


								 David Bundrick
								 Atlanta

*When the revolution comes, will your bicycle be ready?*

Anybody log a century over the weekend? (Walter?) The Ga. Randonneur Century
Competition is officially under way. How many can you log between Jan 1st and
Aug 17th (start of BMB)?

Ming proved himself to be a early threat for the Bassmaster Award as he was
busily claiming warm bodies for randonneurring after the finish of Saturday's
New Year's Day ride.  He was ripping a shallow-running, chartruse crankbait
on the riprap, what with the unseasonably warm temps. I personally witnessed
him get 5 strikes but we'll see what he shows up with in April.

Ming's new bike has made it's official appearance and it's a Merlin
ExtraLight outfitted with the Dura-Ace 25th Anniversary grouppo. (Mind you,
this is his rain bike.)  Ming has made me promise not to reveal it's weight -
I'll only say that as he was warming up Saturday I accidentally sneezed and
blew Ming & his bike about 5 feet across the pavement.

Mike D.

In a message dated 1/2/00 9:52:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, HALGATJ@...
writes:

<<  see the Nanimal's 2000 budget must be quite large this year to purchase
  such a distinguished super domestique.>>

Actually it took nearly 3 months of negotiations for them to satisfy my
demands; ie they'll sell  me their spare Nanimals jersey at not one penny
over retail!

  << If you find  yourself ahead, look for your "Team" captain/s, drop back
and bring them up  to the group. >>

That was what I was expecting when I signed, however coach Tommy C. informed
me Sunday that my responsibilities would be to tote all the waterbottles,
pimento cheese sandwiches and watermelons for Hans and him. He suggested I
purchase a BOB trailer. Of course we all know that if a domestique proves
himself then he'll get his opportunities. Coach says that if I do a good job
in the spring then he "might" let me clean his bike between the 1st & 2nd
days of the 600km.

  <<We need a compelling cycling helper name for you.  Need some help here>>

The Waterboy.

Mike D.  (sd)

In a message dated 01/01/2000 6:06:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
PLMHayes@... writes:

<< I announced my "signing" to Hans & Tom. In my "press
  release" I said that "my understanding is that I've been brought in  to work
  for Hansi in the S. Florida spring classics and then be Tom's right hand man
  in the Carolina mountains." >>

I see the Nanimal's 2000 budget must be quite large this year to purchase
such a distinguished super domestique.  A domestique for the "Classics" AND
mountains....that's a MARVELOUS find!

As First Lieutenant, you'll have to remember your loyalties.  If you find
yourself ahead, look for your "Team" captain/s, drop back and bring them up
to the group.  If they are in the lead, just leave them there, 'cause they're
getting the big bucks anyhow.

...."Wilfred" Delong......no......"Andrea" Delong....no.....Mike
"Tafi"......no.....Mike "Peters"
.........no........I don't know?
We need a compelling cycling helper name for you.  Need some help here.......

Jay

In a message dated 12/31/99 9:40:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, HALGATJ@...
writes:

<< and them we begin the "Classic" season
  the following Sunday.  ( Been watching to many tapes) >>

Ha, I've also been calling the S. Florida brevets the "spring classics". I'm
going to join the Nanimals (they had a spare jersey and apparently that's all
that's required).  I announced my "signing" to Hans & Tom. In my "press
release" I said that "my understanding is that I've been brought in  to work
for Hansi in the S. Florida spring classics and then be Tom's right hand man
in the Carolina mountains."

Hope to make the S. Florida 200km.

Happy New Year.
Mike D.

In a message dated 12/31/1999 3:55:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
PLMHayes@... writes:

<< Penny & I will be "leading" a ride Sunday >>

    :-(      I miss all the fun rides.

I'm going to do two short rides around here this weekend.  Stay home and do
some woodworking if Home Depot opens Saturday.  Build two cabinets to hold
our VCR tapes.  (+180 of 'em)

I started at 5:50am last Saturday and did a 60 mile hilly loop.  After eating
a snack at the house, I went out and did the loop in reverse for a total of
120.  It was windy on the 2nd loop (like Gainesville).  I felt good.  (I
still have Greg in my ear to motivate me).  Another long weekend next
Saturday,  Greg's ride on Jan 15th, and them we begin the "Classic" season
the following Sunday.  ( Been watching to many tapes) I'm entered, got the
hotel reserved, Cathy's going to drive, I'm pumped.  Even installed and tried
out my old Scott time trial bars last Saturday.  No more PVC for me.  I'm
getting serious!!!!

Happy New Year to Penny and yourself!!

Jay

Penny & I will be "leading" a ride Sunday, Jan. 2nd, at 9am out of Boat Rock
Rd. Distance is not yet to be determined. Anywhere from 40 to 80 miles
depending upon audience.  Take I-20 west; exit on Fulton Industrial (first
exit outside of I-285); bear left unto Fulton Industrial; Boat Rock is about
4 miles and at a stoplight. Turn right at Boat Rock and park at office
building on immediate right.

Happy New Year

Mike DeLong

Start will be at Duncan Park in Fairburn at 10am

Mike DeLong
(770) 393-0150

In a message dated 12/28/99 6:26:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
basil1@... writes:

<< Silk Sheets sounds wonderful Mike, I may be able to get Aldernese to come
out on
  that other bike we seldom ride. >>

10am start at Duncan Park in Fairburn. Let me know if you want to catch a
ride with Penny & me.

Mike D.

Silk Sheets sounds wonderful Mike, I may be able to get Aldernese to come out on
that other bike we seldom ride. // Basil

PLMHayes@... wrote:

> From: PLMHayes@...
>
> In a message dated 12/28/99 1:29:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ALP@... writes:
>
> << Any word on the identity of Ming's new toy? >>
>
> I'm hoping to see IT (whatever IT is) this week. BTW, Penny & I, Basil and
> perhaps a newly outfitted Ming (yet to confirm) will meet tomorrow
> (Wednesday) for a 40-50 miler in the Silk Sheets area. I'm not sure about the
> usual Boat Rock start area since this is not a weekend and we might be
> unwelcome in the office parking lot. Anyone who'd like to join us, please
> contact me (770) 393-0150. We'll probably start about 10am. Pace... Penny & I
> ALWAYS ride social!  I hear it's supposed to warm up tomorrow.
>
> Mike DeLong
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In a message dated 12/28/99 1:29:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ALP@... writes:

<< Any word on the identity of Ming's new toy? >>

I'm hoping to see IT (whatever IT is) this week. BTW, Penny & I, Basil and
perhaps a newly outfitted Ming (yet to confirm) will meet tomorrow
(Wednesday) for a 40-50 miler in the Silk Sheets area. I'm not sure about the
usual Boat Rock start area since this is not a weekend and we might be
unwelcome in the office parking lot. Anyone who'd like to join us, please
contact me (770) 393-0150. We'll probably start about 10am. Pace... Penny & I
ALWAYS ride social!  I hear it's supposed to warm up tomorrow.

Mike DeLong

Good article on frame materials.

      http://www.damonrinard.com/EFBe/frame_fatigue_test.htm

In a message dated 12/22/99 8:39:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
steven.teal@... writes:

<< This is supposed to be the exception but given that this is a
  purely garandon issue, I question stigmitizing our peers who we know and
trust. >>

Maybe I should have left them vague. Actually they were inside jokes with
both Tom & Ming. Barclay, please feel free to remove the asterisks. There is
certainly no question that both parties earned their respective SR
designations.

Mike

Is this necessary? Last year's site didn't have this black mark included and I
wonder about it's usefulness. I'd especially have to question it as, from my
understanding, both Tom and Ming completed more than the necessary number of
brevets. Did anyone check to see whether there were any that could substitute
for
the one's that had a "blemish"? For example, according to ACP rules, if you
aren't able to do a  particular length brevet you can substitute a brevet of
greater length. This is supposed to be the exception but given that this is a
purely garandon issue, I question stigmitizing our peers who we know and trust.

steve

PLMHayes@... wrote:

> From: PLMHayes@...
>
> In a message dated 12/22/99 7:45:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> barclay@... writes:
>
> << Wow... I have no idea... just copied the table... Mike/Steve, do you know?
>
>  Barclay
>
>
>  Scott & Melinda Dura wrote:
>
>  > Barclay,
>  >
>  > In the table of Super Randonneurs, some have an "*" beside their name (Tom
>  > Cross & Ming Tai).  What does it signify?  How about a legend on the page?
>  > Thanks again!
>   >>
>
> It's about time someone noticed. The meaning of the asterisks were intended
> to note "exceptions" (and also to be vague). In spite of all our repartee on
> this list, there is what our friend Mark Welden calls the "Dark Side" of our
> sport. I believe Tom Cross has already detailled that fact that in 1998 he
> accidentally circumvented the "wall" prior to Ceasar's Head mountain on the
> Spartanburg 200km. Had John Bryan known,  this infraction MIGHT have
> invalidated Tom's SR that year, .  Ming's asterisk... I can't PERSONALLY
> detail this until next year's brevets are completed (statute of limitations);
> only to say that it was even MORE insidious than Tom's infraction. Anyway,
> ask me next year. :-)
>
> Mike DeLong
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In a message dated 12/22/99 7:45:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,
barclay@... writes:

<< Wow... I have no idea... just copied the table... Mike/Steve, do you know?

  Barclay


  Scott & Melinda Dura wrote:

  > Barclay,
  >
  > In the table of Super Randonneurs, some have an "*" beside their name (Tom
  > Cross & Ming Tai).  What does it signify?  How about a legend on the page?
  > Thanks again!
   >>

It's about time someone noticed. The meaning of the asterisks were intended
to note "exceptions" (and also to be vague). In spite of all our repartee on
this list, there is what our friend Mark Welden calls the "Dark Side" of our
sport. I believe Tom Cross has already detailled that fact that in 1998 he
accidentally circumvented the "wall" prior to Ceasar's Head mountain on the
Spartanburg 200km. Had John Bryan known,  this infraction MIGHT have
invalidated Tom's SR that year, .  Ming's asterisk... I can't PERSONALLY
detail this until next year's brevets are completed (statute of limitations);
only to say that it was even MORE insidious than Tom's infraction. Anyway,
ask me next year. :-)

Mike DeLong

In a message dated 12/21/99 12:21:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
wise@... writes:

<< The new URL for BMB is     www.bmb1200k.com
      BMB is scheduled for August 17-20 200
      All are invited!
      Happy Holidays
      Jennifer Wise
      Director - BMB >>


The new URL for BMB is     www.bmb1200k.com
     BMB is scheduled for August 17-20 200
     All are invited!
     Happy Holidays
     Jennifer Wise
     Director - BMB




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In a message dated 12/21/99 9:02:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dbundric@... writes:

<< Great web site!  I might try to do a short, informative article on
  randonneuring to run in Freewheelin' to drum up some new riders. There
  must be more nuts than us out there>>

I'm thinking about running a half page advertisement in the SBL Magazine in
either Feb. or Mar. $65 but I think entry fees will cover it.  An article
would really be GREAT.

<< One quibble: I thought everyone who finished a PBP was called an
  ancien, not just multiple finishers. >>

I would think that too however last year about this time I floated that
question on RANDON and Jennifer Wise responded that it  was 2 or more PBP's.
Perhaps I misunderstood.  Why don't you ask around.

mdelong

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Great web site!  I might try to do a short, informative article on
randonneuring to run in Freewheelin' to drum up some new riders. There
must be more nuts than us out there. ~{:-}
One quibble: I thought everyone who finished a PBP was called an
ancien, not just multiple finishers.

test
MD