I see futsal in the hands of US Soccer as both a blessing and a curse.  The good
part is that
they have the resources and the money to actually promote the game and take it
past the
grassroots level.  The downside is that the national team will continue to be
made up of
mostly MISL players, probably none of whom play futsal outside of national team
preparation
(and don't think for a minute that the MISL will lift a finger to have a futsal
tourney or
anything to help get them ready).  The only hope I see for a pro futsal league
in this country
would be to have Nike or somebody have some sort of pro tour (like the old
roller hockey
league that played at Disney), and pay ESPN or Versus to show it in between
"Extreme Butt
Scratching," and "World Series of Finding Pi" (hey, they show the national
spelling bee and
drum corps, so why not?).

It looks like USFF will continue to have a following.  There attempt
to "corner" the sport of futsal and control it is not something that
seems to bother many who have been involved.  Although,  I think that
US Soccer will ultimately win because 1) they will have control of the
National teams and the International competitions and 2) will provide
the best referee instruction, and 3)have access to the major
sponsorships and sporting goods companies;  it appears that we will be
in for a period of time that things will have to settle. It appears
that the West Coast is going to be very supportive of the USFF.  The
Midwest is supportive of the Super F League. The East coast has
supporters for both.   Only a few see a reason to change what they are
already doing.

US Soccer is going to need to provide opportunities to its membership
by offering international competitions and an ODP style program.  They
will have to earn the business.

Competition is good for both organizations as they must now earn the
business, neither should be entitled to it.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "wildseric"
<wildseric@...> wrote:
>
> --- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "psb7508"
> <psb7508@> wrote:
> >
> > What are the United States Futsal Federation affiliated leagues
> going
> > to do next year?  Are they going to stick with USFF or will they
> stick
> > with FIFA/ US Soccer and affiliate with the Super Y League or some
> > other FIFA affiliated futsal league?
> >
>
>
> I see no reason to leave a US Futsal Federation sanctioned league.
> My teams will not play for any other league unless it is with US
> Futsal.  The affiliation with US Soccer does not bother me a bit.
> It's about the kids playing and having fun and thus developing
> better soccer skills through futsal.  The recent US Futsal National
> Championship proved to me how far US Futsal has come in the past few
> years.  The level of play is getting better and better.  I see no
> reason to jump ship and affilaite with the any other league. There
> are NO advantages with joing another league.  Don't let politics get
> in the way of your kids soccer/futsal development.
>

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "wildseric" <wildseric@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "psb7508"
> <psb7508@> wrote:
> >
> > What are the United States Futsal Federation affiliated leagues
> going
> > to do next year?  Are they going to stick with USFF or will they
> stick
> > with FIFA/ US Soccer and affiliate with the Super Y League or some
> > other FIFA affiliated futsal league?
> >
>
>
> I see no reason to leave a US Futsal Federation sanctioned league.

Good for you.  Have fun trying to get into a US Soccer or FIFA sanctioned
tournament.  USFF
is sanctioned by neither.  And FYI, USFF struck the first blow by trademarking
"futsal," and
trying to force people to do things their way.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "psb7508"
<psb7508@...> wrote:
>
> What are the United States Futsal Federation affiliated leagues
going
> to do next year?  Are they going to stick with USFF or will they
stick
> with FIFA/ US Soccer and affiliate with the Super Y League or some
> other FIFA affiliated futsal league?
>


I see no reason to leave a US Futsal Federation sanctioned league.
My teams will not play for any other league unless it is with US
Futsal.  The affiliation with US Soccer does not bother me a bit.
It's about the kids playing and having fun and thus developing
better soccer skills through futsal.  The recent US Futsal National
Championship proved to me how far US Futsal has come in the past few
years.  The level of play is getting better and better.  I see no
reason to jump ship and affilaite with the any other league. There
are NO advantages with joing another league.  Don't let politics get
in the way of your kids soccer/futsal development.

I am a new user to the Futsal On Line news group.  I love futsal and
just found this site.  It is full of great information.  I was at
the recent US Futsal Federation National Championship in Anaheim and
it was fantastic.  I saw another comment on this site about the
championship so figured I should voice my opinion.

My team(s) have qualified a few times from the state competition and
then to the regional competition and then on to the national
championship.  This past national championship was the best futsal
competition I have ever attended.  The competition is getting better
and better.  I did not encounter any problems with the competition
registration.  I presented my team's information (player passes and
roster) to the US Futsal Federation staff at registration.  They
reviewed my information with the data they had on file and handed me
the passes for the competition.

The playing surface was spectacular.  Te ball moved very well and
the players had good footing.  Someone said it was a Snap Court
surface.  I wish we could play on this surface all the time. My
players would just get better.

The Anaheim Convention Center looked great.  The set up was very
professional and well done.  We had a few balls go under the netting
hanging behind the goal but overall that did not pose a hazard for
anyone or delay the game.   I'm sure that in Baltimore next year it
will look even better.

I felt everything went very well especially the competition.  I
believe the coaches are learning the game thus transferring that
knowledge onto their players.  I watched a U13 Boys match I believe
the team name was Magic Santos, the coach did a magnificent job
instructing his players and making the appropriate adjustments to
overcome a very good opponent.  I learned a lot from watching him.

The refereeing was not the greatest but much better than the first
national championship I attended in Las Vegas. I have not attended
the championship every year since my teams have not always
qualified.  But I have attended every year that they have qualified
and have seen a tremendous improvement in the overall organizational
structure to include referees.  I did hear that several At-Large
teams were not accepted into the competition.  That just shows US
Futsal's growth and the importance of doing well at the regional
competition.

I am personally very excited about the growth of Futsal and what US
Futsal has been able to accomplish over the past several years with
very little funding.  There was not a big time sponsor at the
national championship like USYS and US Soccer have for all of their
events.  I guess that's because the sport is still new and growing.
I did hear that a huge sponsor was getting ready to sign a lucrative
deal with US Futsal that would propel them in the direction they
vision themselves going.  I hope that means their own national
teams?

I know that US Futsal and US Soccer have not seen eye to eye.  But I
honestly see this as a good thing for the sport.  I have seen US
Soccer destroy the youth game.  US Futsal is doing just the
opposite.  The kids love this game and US Futsal appear to be all
about the youth development and ensuring that they have fun without
getting politics involved.   I'm sure they are dealing with a
tremendous amount of internal political struggles with US Soccer and
even FIFA but that struggle has not diminished the passion of the
game or filtered down to the kids.  I saw that at the national
championship.  It was fantastic.

So to US Futsal I say keep up the good work and do not lose the
passion of the game.  I just hope my team(s) qualify for the
national championship in Baltimore next July.  I can't wait for
another great competitive futsal event.

What are the United States Futsal Federation affiliated leagues going
to do next year? Are they going to stick with USFF or will they stick
with FIFA/ US Soccer and affiliate with the Super Y League or some
other FIFA affiliated futsal league?

What are the United States Futsal Federation affiliated leagues going
to do next year?  Are they going to stick with USFF or will they stick
with FIFA/ US Soccer and affiliate with the Super Y League or some
other FIFA affiliated futsal league?

Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: vahid molaie <vahid4782003@...>
Subject: question about futsal rules
To: timsheldon99@...

dear sir

my question is about futsal rules:

in during substitution , a player that have yellow card from out of substitution area leave the pitch and substitute enter to pitch from substitution area.referee stop play after advantage and show 2th yellow card to that player and send of him with red card.the restart of play is with how many players?(please attend to this matter that the substitute enter to the pitch and play 1 minute before that referee stop play.)

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To: timsheldon99@...
From: Brandon Dickens <bdickens@...>
Subject: Beginner's Futsal in Chicago?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:43:01 -0500

Hello Mr. Sheldon,

Is there a resource that can point me towards a beginner's futsal team in my area (Chicago, Northside), or perhaps a resource to locate futsal facilities?

I really appreciate the help and apologize for bothering you.

Brandon

They don't run any leagues.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
<pminenno@...> wrote:
>
> The USSF does not directly support soccer?
>
> We must agree to disagree on that one!
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of psb7508
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 7:18 PM
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: US Soccer's Board Minutes
>
>
>
> Here is the website that you can find all of US Soccer's Board
> Minutes. They have been discussing disputes with US Futsal for over
a
> year. Also, it was mentioned at the AGM last year.
> http://www.ussoccer
> <http://www.ussoccer.com/governance/bod/meeting.jsp.html>
> .com/governance/bod/meeting.jsp.html
>
> US Soccer does not directly support futsal as it does not directly
> support soccer. It will respond to those who would like to affiliate
> and it will field a futsal national team and develop a futsal
referee
> program. To my knowledge the only futsal league affiliated with US
> Soccer is the Super F League. It is possible that USYSA could begin
a
> futsal program as their agreement with US Futsal Federation
regarding
> the development of futsal is probably void. Now that USFF is out,
> look for others to fill the void.
>
> --- In futsalonline_ <mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
> <pminenno@> wrote:
> >
> > What is US Soccer's next move with the development of Futsal in
the
> USA?
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to see the minutes of that meeting if there has been
one?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please continue to keep us updated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: futsalonline_ <mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:futsalonline_ <mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> newsgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of psb7508
> > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:08 PM
> > To: futsalonline_ <mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] US Soccer's Board Minutes
> >
> >
> >
> > Here are the official board minutes from US Soccer verifying the
> > removal of the US Futsal Federation as an affiliated member. US
> > Futsal is also no longer affilated with FIFA.
> >
> > http://images.
> >
> <http://images.
> <http://images.ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-
7_teleconfer
> > ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-7_teleconfer
> > ence.pdf>
> > ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-
7_teleconference.pdf
> >
>

Here is the website that you can find all of US Soccer's Board
Minutes.  They have been discussing disputes with US Futsal for over a
year.  Also, it was mentioned at the AGM last year.
http://www.ussoccer.com/governance/bod/meeting.jsp.html

US Soccer does not directly support futsal as it does not directly
support soccer.  It will respond to those who would like to affiliate
and it will field a futsal national team and develop a futsal referee
program.  To my knowledge the only futsal league affiliated with US
Soccer is the Super F League.  It is possible that USYSA could begin a
futsal program as their agreement with US Futsal Federation regarding
the development of futsal is probably void.  Now that USFF is out,
look for others to fill the void.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
<pminenno@...> wrote:
>
> What is US Soccer's next move with the development of Futsal in the
USA?
>
>
>
> I would like to see the minutes of that meeting if there has been one?
>
>
>
> Please continue to keep us updated.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of psb7508
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] US Soccer's Board Minutes
>
>
>
> Here are the official board minutes from US Soccer verifying the
> removal of the US Futsal Federation as an affiliated member. US
> Futsal is also no longer affilated with FIFA.
>
> http://images.
>
<http://images.ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-7_teleconfer
> ence.pdf>
> ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-7_teleconference.pdf
>

Here are the official board minutes from US Soccer verifying the
removal of the US Futsal Federation as an affiliated member.  US
Futsal is also no longer affilated with FIFA.

http://images.ussoccer.com/Documents/cms/ussf/BOD_Minutes_1-10-7_teleconference.\
pdf

I emailed US Soccer and asked them if USFF was still a member of US
Soccer.  Here was their reply:

US Futsal Federation was removed from membership with US Soccer as of
December 31, 2006.  If you have further questions, please feel free to
email me back or call me at 312-528-1230.

Tim Pinto
tpi...@...
U.S. Soccer Federation

Hope this clears up all the rumors.

Sincerely,

Steven K. McLaughlin

Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:50:15 -0000
From: "agettig2000" <agettig2000@...>
To: tim sheldon <timsheldon99@...>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Chicago Josh wants to start Futsal facility.

Hi Tim,

Thanks for posting this message. Josh is looking for some
information and I would be happy to help him. How do I get the rest
of his email address?

Thanks,

Andrew@...

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, tim sheldon
wrote:
>
> See attached from person in Chicago interested in starting futsal
facility and league.
>
> Joshua Rigor wrote: From: "Joshua Rigor"

> Subject: Chicago Josh wants to start Futsal facility.
> Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:23:04 -0600
>
> My name is Josh and I am seriously interested about starting a
facility and
> league for the purpose of futsal. Here in Illinois there are no
listed
> Chicago futsal leagues, as of today no president, and lacking a
little
> leadership.
> Question #1: What are the height requirements of the playing field?
> Question #2: What are the playing surfaces?
> Question #3: Who installs, sells these, if there are, special
futsal
> surfaces?
> Question #4: Do you have any information about people who help
start or
> give guidance to leagues?
>
> Thankyou very much. Any help is much appreciated.
> Sincerely Joshua Rigor.
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:10:55 +0500
From: "OTTABEK MADYAROV" <ottabek.madyarov@...>
To: timsheldon99@...
Subject: Coach needed.

Dear Tim Sheldon,

 

I am Ottabek Madyarov, head specialist of Uzbekistan Futsal Association. I am pleased to know you as one of the most informed futsal specialists. Futsalonline.com is the most favorite Internet source for fresh futsal news.

 

I will be appreciative if you provide your suggestions regarding the following issue. At the moment Uzbekistan Futsal Association is about to launch the final stage of preparation for the upcoming important international futsal tournaments, particularly Asian Futsal Championship to be held in Japan. In order to make the preparation for and participation in the competitions as successful as possible we are looking forward to inviting an experienced futsal coach to train our National Futsal Team during the upcoming three-months period.

 

Taking into consideration your awareness about the current state of affairs in the world of futsal I believe that you might know someone who could become a prospective coach for our team. This is why I would like to take this opportunity and ask you if you can suggest particular candidates who would like to work with Uzbekistan National Futsal Team. I apologize for creating this inconvenience for you, but you suggestions will be invaluable for us.

 

I thank you in advance and look forward to hearing from you.

 

With the best regards,

 

Ottabek Madyarov

Head Specialist of Uzbekistan Futsal Association

Alex did not comply with the terms that US Soccer required by the
December 31st deadline.  USFF has now lost its affiliate member
status.

I have heard rumors and rumblings about the possibility of US Soccer to
come out with a Futsal develepment plan.  Has anyone heard anything.

From: "Joshua Rigor" <jrigor1@...>
Subject: Chicago Josh wants to start Futsal facility.
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:23:04 -0600

My name is Josh and I am seriously interested about starting a facility and
league for the purpose of futsal. Here in Illinois there are no listed
Chicago futsal leagues, as of today no president, and lacking a little
leadership.
Question #1: What are the height requirements of the playing field?
Question #2: What are the playing surfaces?
Question #3: Who installs, sells these, if there are, special futsal
surfaces?
Question #4: Do you have any information about people who help start or
give guidance to leagues?

Thankyou very much. Any help is much appreciated.
Sincerely Joshua Rigor.

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Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:36:00 +0800
From: "Sohan Harkeshvinderjit Singh" <sohan888@...>
To: "timsheldon99@..." <timsheldon99@...>
Subject: Futsal Courts

Need some advise, could you pls advise what would be the best turf/surface to use if i am setting up a futsal business ? I plan to have an arena with

10 courts - wld a mix of different court surfaces be ideal, if so, what types wld you recommend ?

 

Also, what sizes wld be advisable (i know fifa rules allow a fair bit of range) for a good crowd pull.

 

Many Thanks and pls respond as soon as you can.

--
Regards,
Sohan

Dan <revmcdan@earthlink.net> wrote:

From: "Dan" <revmcdan@earthlink.net>
To: <timsheldon99@yahoo.com>
Subject: futsal court
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:25:44 -0500

I would like to know if you know of any plans or design for building a futsal complex? I’m trying to get the county that I live in to build a four court outdoor complex with lights. Any help would be great. Thank you Dan