12 teams from 7 nations will take part on the 13th UEFS Cup to be held in
Amposta (Catalonia)


Group A
La Sŕuce Carlesienne (France)
CS Mancuso Sarno (Italy)
FS La Garriga (Catalonia)

Group B
AEFS Montsiŕ Amposta (Catalonia)
MJC Champs Fustal (France)
Podvodnik (Russia)

Group C
Comforsa Ripoll (Catalonia)
Nizhnjaja Volga (Russia)
Bombardaci Vetni (Czech Rep.)

Group D
Okhrana (Belarus)
SICO Jilemnice (Czech Rep.)
FK Frage Trencin (Slovak Rep.)


Schedule of the games:

Group A
Day 1 6/4/09 10:00 h. La Sŕuce Carlesienne – CS Moncuso
Day 2 7/4/09 20:00 h. CS Moncuso – La Garriga
Day 3 8/4/09 18:00 h. La Garriga – La Sŕuce Carlesienne


Group B
Day 1 6/4/09 19:00 h. AEFS Amposta – Podvonik
Day 2 7/4/09 18:00 h. Podvonik – MJC Champs Fustal
Day 3 8/4/09 20:00 h. AEFS Amposta – MJC Champs Futsal


Group C
Day 1 6/4/09 16:00 h. Comforsa Ripoll – Bombardaci Vetni
Day 2 7/4/09 11:30 h. Bombardaci Vetni – Nizhnjaja Volgai
Day 3 8/4/09 16:00 h.Comforsa Ripoll – Nizhnjaja Volga



Group D
Day 1 6/4/09 12:00 h. Okhrana – SICO Jilemnice
Day 2 7/4/09 16:00 h. SICO Jilemnice – FK Frage Trencin
Day 3 8/4/09 11:30 h. Okhrana – FK Frage Trencin

a few weeks ago started the Copa Postobon, from the Division Nacional de Futbol
de Salon, sanctioned by the Futsal federation of Colombia, this is the first
ever profesional league of futsal in Colombia, every weekend they show on game
on live.

you can follow the results at:

www.futsal1930.blogspot.com
http://www.fecolfutsal.com/

You can get there by going to the Trademark Electronic Search System
(TESS) at http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=saqfu4.1.1
and then typing in "Futsal" on the New User Form Search (Basic).

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "psb7508"
<psb7508@...> wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the US Patent Website regarding all references
to
> the word Futsal:
>
> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?
>
f=toc&state=uptdsl.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plura
l=
> yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%
> 24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Futsal&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%
>
24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Su
bm
> it+Query
>
> --- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Sheldon"
> <timsheldon99@> wrote:
> >
> > A big step forward for Futsal in the U.S. Now there's free and
open
> > competition and new hope for advancements such as pro futsal and
> large
> > corporate-sponsored tournaments.
> >
>

Here is the link to the US Patent Website regarding all references to
the word Futsal:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?
f=toc&state=uptdsl.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=
yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%
24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Futsal&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%
24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Subm
it+Query

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Sheldon"
<timsheldon99@...> wrote:
>
> A big step forward for Futsal in the U.S. Now there's free and open
> competition and new hope for advancements such as pro futsal and
large
> corporate-sponsored tournaments.
>

A big step forward for Futsal in the U.S. Now there's free and open
competition and new hope for advancements such as pro futsal and large
corporate-sponsored tournaments.

Alex Para has now voluntarily abandoned his copyright on the word
"Futsal"  and is now only copyrighting the terms US Futsal and United
States Futsal Federation.

You are now free to use the word Futsal without worrying about
violating this copyright.

From: "Peter Minenno" <slfutsal@...>
To: <timsheldon99@...>
Subject: Look at this!
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:16:24 -0700

 

Who would not want to play Futsal here?

 

We have 5 courts all larger then any “National” Futsal tournaments in the USA!

 

Score Goal 24/7 Inc. & Utah Futsal are no longer with the US Futsal, we are affiliated with US Soccer through our local Adult

Utah Soccer Association.

We now have over 250 teams playing in our facility per week, plus over 100 hours of rental time each week.

This is an indication of where the Sport of Futsal has come in the last 5 years, when we first started Futsal here we had only 36 players, now there are over

3000 Futsal Players in the State of Utah.

 

(Note the goal! And 2 Referees at a local youth game! )

 

 

Thank you,

 

Peter Minenno

Score Goal 24/7, Inc.

801-706-7363

 

From: "Peter Minenno" <slfutsal@...>
To: <timsheldon99@...>
Subject: International Futsal Tourney in UTAH!
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:30:55 -0700

IV Annual President's Day Futsal Cup

& first time International Futsal Tournament

in Utah!

 

 

 

Divisions:                   Gold & Silver

Registration Fee:         $375

Number of games:        3 minimum

Registration

Deadline:                    January 28th, 2008

 

Location:                    Score Goal 24/7

                                Salt Palace, SLC, UT

Date:                         February 15th -18th, 2008 (out of State teams 16th -18th)

      

     *   This is tournament is held in the Largest Futsal Facility in the USA!

     *   5 courts all under one roof, you feel like your are part of the whole tournament.
     *   2 Youth teams from Porto Alegre, Brazil Boys U12 & U13 teams

     *   Prof. Renato Lopes a Professional Futsal Coach and former Professional player from Brazil & Italy

          He will be conducting Futsal clinics for players and coaches.

     *   All referees are USSF Futsal Certified and trained officials

     *   U9 to Adult Teams are invited

     *   The defending National Open Men's Futsal Team will be here as well as other top level Futsal Men's teams.

 

Please call or email us to register your team today!

Thank you,

Peter Minenno
President
Score Goal 24/7, Inc.

Utah Futsal Association

www.score-goal.com
peter@...
Phone: 801-706-7363
FAX: 801-553-9898

Hello:

I am new to this group so forgive me if this is out of line.  The UEFA
Futsal Championships are currently available on uefa.com

It is free in a lot of territories (especially outside Europe) so if
you want to watch some top level live games have a look.

http://video.uefa.com/video/live/competitions/futsal/index.html

I thought that you might be interested, cheers

Andy

People can think what they want and come up with their own conclusion but I don't believe it was a cynical attempt to corner the market.  If it was US Futsal would be very wealthy. It wasn't called futsal in 1930.  Any business trademarks it's name to protect themselves just as US Soccer has.  I have a small business and have done just that. I think you guys have a very bad grudge against US Futsal.  Perhaps you do not know of the great things that have been happening over the past two years with US Futsal.  Do not be so close minded. We are all involved because we love the game regardless of what organization we fall under.  Stop the allegations and enjoy the game.

 

----- Original Message ----
From: tim sheldon <timsheldon99@yahoo.com>
To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 10:41:38 AM
Subject: Re: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: Ceriani Was the Naismith of Indoor Soccer

It was a cynical attempt to corner the market in this country and profit from the efforts of others.


psb7508 <psb7508@yahoo. com> wrote:

So why didn't Ceriani trademark and copyright the sport? Maybe he
invented it for children to play. I think he would be rolling over
in his grave over the USFF purported trademark of a sport he
invented.

USFF has shown a complete lack of respect for the sport.

--- In futsalonline_ newsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, tim sheldon
<timsheldon99@ ...> wrote:
>
> Ceriani Was the Naismith of Indoor Soccer
>
> The origin of Futsal can be traced back to Montevideo, Uruguay,
in 1930 when Juan Carlos Ceriani devised a five-a-side version of
soccer for youth competion in YMCAs. He was very similar in this way
to James Naismith, who origininated the game of basketball. Futsal
is played on basketball-sized courts, both indoors and out without
the use of sidewalls.
> The term "Futsal" is the international term used for the game.
It is derived from the Spanish, "Futbol Sala" and the
Portuguese, "Futebol de Salao," both of which mean, "indoor soccer."
The game is frequently referred to as "Five-A-Side. "
> Once Ceriani got the ball rolling, Futsal gained rapid
popularity throughout South America, particularly in Brazil. The
skill developed in this game is visible in the world-famous style
the Brazilians display outdoors on the full-sized field. Pele, Zico,
Socrates, Bebeto and other Brazilian superstars developed their
skill playing Futsal.
> While Brazil continues to be the Futsal hub of the world, the
game is now played, under the auspices of FIFA, all over the world,
from Europe to North and Central America and the Caribbean, South
America, Africa, and Asia and Oceania.
> The first international competition took place in 1965, when
Paraguay won the first South American Cup. Six more South American
Cups were held through 1979, with Brazil winning all of them. Brazil
continued its dominance with a victory in the first Pan American Cup
in 1980 and won it again the next time it was played in 1984. A U.S.
team took part in the 1984 cup, but finished out of the running.
> The U.S. Futsal Federation incorporated in January, 1983.
Osvaldo Garcia was the first president and national team coach. The
game originally was referred to as Minisoccer and then became known
by its official international name, Futsal. The current federation
president is Alex Para.
> The first Futsal World Championship was conducted in Sao Paulo,
Brazil, in 1982, with Brazil finishing in first place. The
Brazilians repeated as champions at the second World Championship in
1985 in Spain. FIFA took over direct sponsorship of the event in
1989 in Holland and 1992 in Hong Kong. Brazil won both times. The
U.S. Indoor Team, coached by John Kowalsky, finished third in 1989
and second in 1992. The U.S. slipped out of the running in the Third
FIFA World Futsal Championship helde held November 24 through
December 11, 1996, in Spain.
> The first international Futsal match in the U.S. was held in
December, 1985, at Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, Calif. A
U.S. select team, coached by Garcia, defeated Australia, 9-5. U.S.
Futsal has conducted a national championship each year since 1985..
> Futsal is establishing itself at the youth level in the U.S. The
Boys and Girls Clubs of America took a strong interest after the
Columbia Park Club in San Francisco asked the Federation to give a
demonstration. The national organization adopted the sport, and it
is now played at about 1,100 Boys and Girls Clubs throughout the
U..S.
> The U.S. Youth Soccer Association (USYSA) and American Youth
Soccer Organization (AYSO) also play the sport in affiliation with
U.S. Futsal.
>

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US Soccer never has trademarked the name "soccer".  WE have a bad
grudge because we continue to receive letters to "cease and desist"
playing the sport of futsal.  Threatening people with lawsuits has a
tendency to close minds.

These are not allegations and copies of these letters are available.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Eric Wilds
<wildseric@...> wrote:
>
> People can think what they want and come up with their own
conclusion but I don't believe it was a cynical attempt to corner the
market.  If it was US Futsal would be very wealthy. It wasn't called
futsal in 1930.  Any business trademarks it's name to protect
themselves just as US Soccer has.  I have a small business and have
done just that. I think you guys have a very bad grudge against US
Futsal.  Perhaps you do not know of the great things that have been
happening over the past two years with US Futsal.  Do not be so close
minded. We are all involved because we love the game regardless of
what organization we fall under.  Stop the allegations and enjoy the game.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: tim sheldon <timsheldon99@...>
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 10:41:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: Ceriani Was the Naismith
of Indoor Soccer
>
> It was a cynical attempt to corner the market in this country and
profit from the efforts of others.
>
>
> psb7508 <psb7508@yahoo. com> wrote:
> So why didn't Ceriani trademark and copyright the sport? Maybe he
> invented it for children to play. I think he would be rolling over
> in his grave over the USFF purported trademark of a sport he
> invented.
>
> USFF has shown a complete lack of respect for the sport.
>
> --- In futsalonline_ newsgroup@ yahoogroups. com, tim sheldon
> <timsheldon99@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Ceriani Was the Naismith of Indoor Soccer
> >
> > The origin of Futsal can be traced back to Montevideo, Uruguay,
> in 1930 when Juan Carlos Ceriani devised a five-a-side version of
> soccer for youth competion in YMCAs. He was very similar in this way
> to James Naismith, who origininated the game of basketball. Futsal
> is played on basketball-sized courts, both indoors and out without
> the use of sidewalls.
> > The term "Futsal" is the international term used for the game.
> It is derived from the Spanish, "Futbol Sala" and the
> Portuguese, "Futebol de Salao," both of which mean, "indoor soccer."
> The game is frequently referred to as "Five-A-Side. "
> > Once Ceriani got the ball rolling, Futsal gained rapid
> popularity throughout South America, particularly in Brazil. The
> skill developed in this game is visible in the world-famous style
> the Brazilians display outdoors on the full-sized field. Pele, Zico,
> Socrates, Bebeto and other Brazilian superstars developed their
> skill playing Futsal.
> > While Brazil continues to be the Futsal hub of the world, the
> game is now played, under the auspices of FIFA, all over the world,
> from Europe to North and Central America and the Caribbean, South
> America, Africa, and Asia and Oceania.
> > The first international competition took place in 1965, when
> Paraguay won the first South American Cup. Six more South American
> Cups were held through 1979, with Brazil winning all of them. Brazil
> continued its dominance with a victory in the first Pan American Cup
> in 1980 and won it again the next time it was played in 1984. A U.S.
> team took part in the 1984 cup, but finished out of the running.
> > The U.S. Futsal Federation incorporated in January, 1983.
> Osvaldo Garcia was the first president and national team coach. The
> game originally was referred to as Minisoccer and then became known
> by its official international name, Futsal. The current federation
> president is Alex Para.
> > The first Futsal World Championship was conducted in Sao Paulo,
> Brazil, in 1982, with Brazil finishing in first place. The
> Brazilians repeated as champions at the second World Championship in
> 1985 in Spain. FIFA took over direct sponsorship of the event in
> 1989 in Holland and 1992 in Hong Kong. Brazil won both times. The
> U.S. Indoor Team, coached by John Kowalsky, finished third in 1989
> and second in 1992. The U.S. slipped out of the running in the Third
> FIFA World Futsal Championship helde held November 24 through
> December 11, 1996, in Spain.
> > The first international Futsal match in the U.S. was held in
> December, 1985, at Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, Calif. A
> U.S. select team, coached by Garcia, defeated Australia, 9-5. U.S.
> Futsal has conducted a national championship each year since 1985..
> > Futsal is establishing itself at the youth level in the U.S. The
> Boys and Girls Clubs of America took a strong interest after the
> Columbia Park Club in San Francisco asked the Federation to give a
> demonstration. The national organization adopted the sport, and it
> is now played at about 1,100 Boys and Girls Clubs throughout the
> U.S.
> > The U.S. Youth Soccer Association (USYSA) and American Youth
> Soccer Organization (AYSO) also play the sport in affiliation with
> U.S. Futsal.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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So why didn't Ceriani trademark and copyright the sport? Maybe he
invented it for children to play. I think he would be rolling over
in his grave over the USFF purported trademark of a sport he
invented.

USFF has shown a complete lack of respect for the sport.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, tim sheldon
<timsheldon99@...> wrote:
>
> Ceriani Was the Naismith of Indoor Soccer
>
> The origin of Futsal can be traced back to Montevideo, Uruguay,
in 1930 when Juan Carlos Ceriani devised a five-a-side version of
soccer for youth competion in YMCAs. He was very similar in this way
to James Naismith, who origininated the game of basketball. Futsal
is played on basketball-sized courts, both indoors and out without
the use of sidewalls.
> The term "Futsal" is the international term used for the game.
It is derived from the Spanish, "Futbol Sala" and the
Portuguese, "Futebol de Salao," both of which mean, "indoor soccer."
The game is frequently referred to as "Five-A-Side."
> Once Ceriani got the ball rolling, Futsal gained rapid
popularity throughout South America, particularly in Brazil. The
skill developed in this game is visible in the world-famous style
the Brazilians display outdoors on the full-sized field. Pele, Zico,
Socrates, Bebeto and other Brazilian superstars developed their
skill playing Futsal.
> While Brazil continues to be the Futsal hub of the world, the
game is now played, under the auspices of FIFA, all over the world,
from Europe to North and Central America and the Caribbean, South
America, Africa, and Asia and Oceania.
> The first international competition took place in 1965, when
Paraguay won the first South American Cup. Six more South American
Cups were held through 1979, with Brazil winning all of them. Brazil
continued its dominance with a victory in the first Pan American Cup
in 1980 and won it again the next time it was played in 1984. A U.S.
team took part in the 1984 cup, but finished out of the running.
> The U.S. Futsal Federation incorporated in January, 1983.
Osvaldo Garcia was the first president and national team coach. The
game originally was referred to as Minisoccer and then became known
by its official international name, Futsal. The current federation
president is Alex Para.
> The first Futsal World Championship was conducted in Sao Paulo,
Brazil, in 1982, with Brazil finishing in first place. The
Brazilians repeated as champions at the second World Championship in
1985 in Spain. FIFA took over direct sponsorship of the event in
1989 in Holland and 1992 in Hong Kong. Brazil won both times. The
U.S. Indoor Team, coached by John Kowalsky, finished third in 1989
and second in 1992. The U.S. slipped out of the running in the Third
FIFA World Futsal Championship helde held November 24 through
December 11, 1996, in Spain.
> The first international Futsal match in the U.S. was held in
December, 1985, at Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, Calif. A
U.S. select team, coached by Garcia, defeated Australia, 9-5. U.S.
Futsal has conducted a national championship each year since 1985..
> Futsal is establishing itself at the youth level in the U.S. The
Boys and Girls Clubs of America took a strong interest after the
Columbia Park Club in San Francisco asked the Federation to give a
demonstration. The national organization adopted the sport, and it
is now played at about 1,100 Boys and Girls Clubs throughout the
U.S.
> The U.S. Youth Soccer Association (USYSA) and American Youth
Soccer Organization (AYSO) also play the sport in affiliation with
U.S. Futsal.
>

So why didn't Ceriani trademark and copyright the sport?  Maybe he
invented it for children to play.  I think he would be rolling over
in his grave over the USFF purported trademark of a sport he
invented.

USFF has shown a complete lack of respect for the sport.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, tim sheldon
<timsheldon99@...> wrote:
>
> Ceriani Was the Naismith of Indoor Soccer
>
>   The origin of Futsal can be traced back to Montevideo, Uruguay,
in 1930 when Juan Carlos Ceriani devised a five-a-side version of
soccer for youth competion in YMCAs. He was very similar in this way
to James Naismith, who origininated the game of basketball. Futsal
is played on basketball-sized courts, both indoors and out without
the use of sidewalls.
>   The term "Futsal" is the international term used for the game.
It is derived from the Spanish, "Futbol Sala" and the
Portuguese, "Futebol de Salao," both of which mean, "indoor soccer."
The game is frequently referred to as "Five-A-Side."
>   Once Ceriani got the ball rolling, Futsal gained rapid
popularity throughout South America, particularly in Brazil. The
skill developed in this game is visible in the world-famous style
the Brazilians display outdoors on the full-sized field. Pele, Zico,
Socrates, Bebeto and other Brazilian superstars developed their
skill playing Futsal.
>   While Brazil continues to be the Futsal hub of the world, the
game is now played, under the auspices of FIFA, all over the world,
from Europe to North and Central America and the Caribbean, South
America, Africa, and Asia and Oceania.
>   The first international competition took place in 1965, when
Paraguay won the first South American Cup. Six more South American
Cups were held through 1979, with Brazil winning all of them. Brazil
continued its dominance with a victory in the first Pan American Cup
in 1980 and won it again the next time it was played in 1984. A U.S.
team took part in the 1984 cup, but finished out of the running.
>   The U.S. Futsal Federation incorporated in January, 1983.
Osvaldo Garcia was the first president and national team coach. The
game originally was referred to as Minisoccer and then became known
by its official international name, Futsal. The current federation
president is Alex Para.
>   The first Futsal World Championship was conducted in Sao Paulo,
Brazil, in 1982, with Brazil finishing in first place. The
Brazilians repeated as champions at the second World Championship in
1985 in Spain. FIFA took over direct sponsorship of the event in
1989 in Holland and 1992 in Hong Kong. Brazil won both times. The
U.S. Indoor Team, coached by John Kowalsky, finished third in 1989
and second in 1992. The U.S. slipped out of the running in the Third
FIFA World Futsal Championship helde held November 24 through
December 11, 1996, in Spain.
>   The first international Futsal match in the U.S. was held in
December, 1985, at Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, Calif. A
U.S. select team, coached by Garcia, defeated Australia, 9-5. U.S.
Futsal has conducted a national championship each year since 1985..
>   Futsal is establishing itself at the youth level in the U.S. The
Boys and Girls Clubs of America took a strong interest after the
Columbia Park Club in San Francisco asked the Federation to give a
demonstration. The national organization adopted the sport, and it
is now played at about 1,100 Boys and Girls Clubs throughout the
U.S.
>   The U.S. Youth Soccer Association (USYSA) and American Youth
Soccer Organization (AYSO) also play the sport in affiliation with
U.S. Futsal.
>

I agree 100%.  Keep in mind that USFF has been sending everyone who
plays futsal outside of their leagues a "cease and desist" letter.  I
hope this has changed into the futsal state you describe.

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
<pminenno@...> wrote:
>
> I can play Futsal in any local unaffiliated league in any town
through out
> the USA, and pay money and get accepted to any Futsal Tournament.
The only
> way I will not get accepted is if there are too many or not enough
teams in
> that particular age, gender, for that bracket in that  tournament .
USFF &
> the Super F do not exclude teams who participate in each other's
league. (I
> know of a team that played in both "National" Tournaments during 2007!
>
>
>
> As for the National Team I spoke with Keith Tozer personally and he
told me
> he will take any player that can play Futsal better then the 12 he
has. He
> did not say this, but I will bet that he does not ask what Futsal
League do
> they come from or are affiliated with! I am sure if 4 players came
form the
> SFL and 4 from USFF and they were US Citizens and they played better
Futsal
> then the MISL players he will take them no questions asked.
>
>
>
> Now that is how I see Futsal is in this country! We have grown so
quickly
> that we have 2 different National Associations, how many does Soccer
have,
> USSF, US Club Soccer, US Youth Soccer, AYSO, Local City Recreational
> leagues, so why should Futsal be any different and only have one?
>
>
>
> Keep playing FUTSAL and let's all work on developing players that
will only
> play FUTSAL , and Soccer will only be played for "FUN" for our FUTSAL
> players, that's the goal for Futsal in the USA!
>
>
>
> No one has to "qualify" to play in either of the 2 Largest Futsal
"National"
> Tournaments, sign up early and pay the fees and you will be in a
National
> Tournament, it is just that easy!
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Phillips
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:21 PM
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: US Futsal
>
>
>
> I see futsal in the hands of US Soccer as both a blessing and a
curse. The
> good part is that
> they have the resources and the money to actually promote the game
and take
> it past the
> grassroots level. The downside is that the national team will
continue to be
> made up of
> mostly MISL players, probably none of whom play futsal outside of
national
> team preparation
> (and don't think for a minute that the MISL will lift a finger to have a
> futsal tourney or
> anything to help get them ready). The only hope I see for a pro futsal
> league in this country
> would be to have Nike or somebody have some sort of pro tour (like
the old
> roller hockey
> league that played at Disney), and pay ESPN or Versus to show it in
between
> "Extreme Butt
> Scratching," and "World Series of Finding Pi" (hey, they show the
national
> spelling bee and
> drum corps, so why not?).
>

I must have gotten my history wrong.  "No one knew what Futsal was in
1987 or 2000 for that matter."  From the USFF website:  "The origin of
Futsal can be traced back to Montevideo, Uruguay, in 1930 when Juan
Carlos Ceriani devised a five-a-side version of soccer for youth
competition in YMCAs."

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, Eric Wilds
<wildseric@...> wrote:
>
> Yes US Soccer has the money to back anything they want.  They also
have the political backing.  As federal documents will show US Futsal
officially trademark the Futsal name in 1987.  No one knew what Futsal
was in 1987 or 2000 for that matter. It is only recently that people
see the value in Futsal..  Not just with youth skill development but
with money.  Obviously US Soccer sees lots of $$$$ in there eyes now
that FIFA wants a Futsal World Championship in the US.  I did a little
research in this matter over the past few months.  Did you know that
FIFA did not change the name to FUTSAL until 1996?  That's ten years
after US Futsal incorporated the name.  Regardless it's still about
the kids.  Now that the sport is growing the more US Soccer wants it.
They want it for the $$$$$.  Nothing more nothing less.  For years US
Soccer did not care about US Futsal.  It's obvious since they never
promoted the game until the past year or so.  They certainly never
>  gave US Futsal any $$ to help develop the game.  As a matter of
fact almost all of the dues went to US Soccer.
>
> I remember how US Soccer was 25 years ago.  It was not much.  They
had no money.  Decent leadership but no real cooperate backing.  And a
large volunteer core.  Kind of like US Futsal is now.
>
> Please remember that the AMF is not affiliated with FIFA.  They seem
to be doing OK.  Perhaps US Futsal will join forces with the AMF.
Sounds good to me.  Did you know that the first US National Futsal
Team match took place in 2002 in Washington and Baltimore?  WOW! US
Soccer did nothing financially to help that event except provide a
team to play that was completely made up of MISL players.  I'm sure US
Futsal could have come up with a better quality team.  A team made up
of Futsal players.
>
> You are correct about the MISL.  They should take a good long look
at the indoor game.  If they see the benefits of Futsal, more action,
more scoring, more fan excitement than any MISL indoor soccer game,
then maybe they will see the light as we all have.  They need to
reevaluate their business plan.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Phillips <david0@...>
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 11:21:24 PM
> Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: US Futsal
>
> I see futsal in the hands of US Soccer as both a blessing and a
curse.. The good part is that
> they have the resources and the money to actually promote the game
and take it past the
> grassroots level. The downside is that the national team will
continue to be made up of
> mostly MISL players, probably none of whom play futsal outside of
national team preparation
> (and don't think for a minute that the MISL will lift a finger to
have a futsal tourney or
> anything to help get them ready). The only hope I see for a pro
futsal league in this country
> would be to have Nike or somebody have some sort of pro tour (like
the old roller hockey
> league that played at Disney), and pay ESPN or Versus to show it in
between "Extreme Butt
> Scratching," and "World Series of Finding Pi" (hey, they show the
national spelling bee and
> drum corps, so why not?).
>
>
>
>
>
>
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