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Utah Futsal

Hello all,

 

We will have a U12 boys team from Brazil her in February to play in our 4th Annual President’s Day Futsal Cup. Renato Lopes a Former Professional Player and now Professional Coach will be here as well holding Futsal Clinics from teams and personal training as well. Our Leagues have grown to over 140 teams and Futsal in Utah has exploded around the whole State with new league boasting 90, 65, 50, and 30 teams in the different league through out our State.

 

Attached is more information about our tournament. We have found room for as low as $100 per night in downtown SLC and within walking distance to the Salt Palace Convention Center. We even have free shuttles from the Airport to the Hotels, then free TRAX in downtown SLC, no need to rent a car on this trip.

 

We have over 50 teams committed to play in this tournament as of today, which was the total amount of teams we had last year.

 

Please feel free to contact us with any questions,

 

Peter Minenno

Owner

Score Goal – Utah Futsal

801-706-7363

www.score-goal.com

info@...

 

 

 


From: Tom MacDougall [mailto:tom@...]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:45 AM
To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: The nature of establishing futsal as a sport in America

 


Peter

I was considering it ... but that is the last day of our league
season.  We had our schedule set before we found out about your
tournament.  Next year I will offer to schedule around it for teams
that want to attend.

What does your BU14, BU16 and BU19 age group look like?

I do have your tournament on our webpage and will be talking to teams
to see if they wish to go.

Tom

--- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
<pminenno@c...> wrote:
> Please come and play in our Regional tournament this Feb. 19-21st.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter
>

>

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom MacDougall [mailto:tom@s...]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:12 AM
> To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] Re: The nature of establishing
futsal as a
> sport in America
>

>
>
> Peter
>
> We are trying a larger court size as well.  But not the full 20m x
> 40m size.
>
> Last year we played all games on 84' x 50' basketball courts.  Our
> trip to Nationals showed me that the difference in size made a huge
> difference in how Futsal was played.
>
> This year we are trying out a new 112' x 59' court size.  The odd
> size is because I use some existing lines from two Volleyball
courts
> (59') and two Basketball courts.
>
> The new size is smaller than Nationals but is large enough to play
> the same type of game.  The older teams, U14 on up, seem to prefer
> the larger size.
>
> Looking forward I think we are going to use different court sizes
> based on age.  U12 and younger on basketball courts ... the rest on
> larger courts.
>
>
> --- In futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Minenno"
> <pminenno@c...> wrote:
> > I do not know what that is suppose to mean, but go to this
website:
> > www.score-goal.com <http://www.score-goal.com/
> >
> > and you will see what is hanging in Utah! The largest Futsal
> specific
> > facility in the USA, with the only 20 x 40 meter Futsal court out
> there!
> >
> > 
> >
> > Golazo!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Baker [mailto:psb7508@y...]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 1:43 PM
> > To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [futsalonline_newsgroup] The nature of establishing
> futsal as a
> > sport in America
> >
> > 
> >
> > Hang in there awhile. 
> >
> > Peter Minenno <pminenno@c...> wrote:
> >
> > Very insightful, and well thought out.
> >
> > 
> >
> > From a "Chief" in Utah!  one of 4 "chiefs"
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: psb7508 [mailto:psb7508@y...]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:16 AM
> > To: futsalonline_newsgroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [futsalonline_newsgroup] The nature of establishing
futsal
> as a
> > sport in America
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > I have been reading a book called "Born Fighting" by James Webb
> > about the history of the Scots Irish in America. The author
> > indicates that due to the "tribal" and inherent independent
nature
> > of these people that the form of democracy that they would
practice
> > would be "bottom up" and not "top down".  They would not answer
to
> > Kings but would be very loyal to tribal chiefs and would
> participate
> > democratically.
> >
> > I beleive that this is also true of the development of futsal in
> the
> > US.  Futsal is developing in "pockets" throughout the United
States

> > led by "chiefs" who have developed local followings. A couple of
> > observations is that absent a "chief" many futsal programs die. 
> For
> > instance when several programs were successfully started and the
> > chief who established the program left, died or discontinued the
> > futsal program, the program soon died.  It seems a program must
go
> > through a stable 7-10 year period or so before it becomes
> > established to the point that it can lose its chief and still
> > survive and re-establish itself.  Once established, futsal can
> begin
> > the next phase in its development of "cultural war" with the
older
> > Indoor Soccer.  Futsal must first be seen as viable before it can
> be
> > taken as a serious competitor to Indoor Soccer. 
> >
> > Once the 5-10 year cultural war period shakes out real futsal
> > supporters from the casual supporter, a viable professional
futsal
> > league can be established in our country within tribal areas of
> > support.
> >
> > It seems to me from a natural progression standpoint that many of
> us
> > are far too impatient and are trying to rush things too much.  We
> > need to establish our "beach head" of support -first, develop a
> > committed base of support -second before expanding into endeavors
> > such as professional leagues that require financial commitment -
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I have been reading a book called "Born Fighting" by James Webb about the history of the Scots Irish in America. The author indicates that due to the "tribal"...
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Very insightful, and well thought out. From a "Chief" in Utah! one of 4 "chiefs" ... From: psb7508 [mailto:psb7508@...] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004...
Peter Minenno
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Hang in there awhile. Peter Minenno <pminenno@...> wrote: Very insightful, and well thought out. From a “Chief” in Utah! one of 4 “chiefs” ......
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Hang in there awhile. Peter Minenno <pminenno@...> wrote: Very insightful, and well thought out. From a “Chief” in Utah! one of 4 “chiefs” ......
Paul Baker
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I do not know what that is suppose to mean, but go to this website: www.score-goal.com <http://www.score-goal.com/> and you will see what is hanging in Utah!...
Peter Minenno
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Wow! That is great. Are you planning any tournaments? How many futsal courts do you have that can be played on a weekend? Peter Minenno...
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Check out the website! How would 84 hours of playing time in one facility sound? Plus, for a big tournament we can expand and add 2 more courts! add another ...
Peter Minenno
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Our courts are approximately (4) 70' X 110' for our older teams and (4) regulation basketball for younger teams. This year we have added one 20M X 30M court at...
Paul Baker
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Maybe we could rotate the National Championships say - Salt Lake, Kansas City and Massachussets. Obviously other Cities could be included that could provide...
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That's an excellent idea. Paul Baker <psb7508@...> wrote:Maybe we could rotate the National Championships say - Salt Lake, Kansas City and Massachussets....
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I discussed the idea with Jon Parry today and he seems willing. I don't want to exclude anyone but, I think that these cities at a minimum could host a...
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Peter We are trying a larger court size as well. But not the full 20m x 40m size. Last year we played all games on 84' x 50' basketball courts. Our trip to...
Tom MacDougall
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Please come and play in our Regional tournament this Feb. 19-21st. Thanks, Peter ... From: Tom MacDougall [mailto:tom@...] Sent: Monday, November...
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Peter I was considering it ... but that is the last day of our league season. We had our schedule set before we found out about your tournament. Next year I...
Tom MacDougall
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Yes, All the information is on the website: Here in Utah we do not have any outdoor tournaments at this time, nor any indoor tournaments, so we will have a...
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Hello all, We will have a U12 boys team from Brazil her in February to play in our 4th Annual President's Day Futsal Cup. Renato Lopes a Former Professional...
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Great reading .. I agree with the Chief analogy. Early on there are two requirements to being Cheif ... the desire to see Futsal succeed ... and the...
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