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Subject: Sox's Foulke to return Sept. 1


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> RHP Keith Foulke is scheduled to make another rehab outing
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Come on now Sean, he can't be any WORSE than Remlinger!

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Sean Wilson <scoop1981@y...> wrote:
> Trachsel and Harvill? Oh Joy!
>

The bullpen has been dreadful, the offense terrific. The Sox may be able to survive and win
the division if Foulke returns and Schilling is less than sharp; Schilling would then have to
be on reasonable form for any shot in the playoffs. The AL this season is a mixed bag of
teams that all have some kind of issue, although the Angels, notwithstanding their sweep
by the Rays, seem to be the best balanced if F-Rod regains his form.

What was the stat in the Globe the other day (now updated) -- that the bullpen has
pitched shutout ball twice in now 22 games? That isn't going to cut it. All of the other
contenders have better-performing bullpens right now.

I think we'll know what the Sox's chances are Labor Day, because this week is the last
great chance to widen the margin. The Yanks still have to face Felix Hernandez and the A's
this week, and the Sox have to maintain their Fenway dominance. If that happens, I expect
a division title. Though deep down I expect an Angels (though I'd rather see White Sox)-
Cardinals World Series.

Glenn

P.S.: But all of this being said, if Theo & Co. can keep the farm system together, I think the
Sox will finally have their long, consistent run together in the very near future. It's hard to
pass on one season and wait, but we may find that even if they fail this year, by '07 the
Sox may really be the big dogs in the division.







--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "jecarney64" <jecarney64@y...> wrote:
> I agree with Matt - this team has some great hitting, but it's
> pitching and defense are flawed.  I think the Sox can take the
> division or perhaps the Wild Card.   But the Yankees have some serious
> flaws too, so this year the wild card may not even come from the AL
> East.   Who knows, anything can happen in October, as well all saw
> last year.   We really need Schilling and Foulke to stabilize the
> pitching staff.
>
> --- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> > Of course I want to win again, too.  But I'm trying to be realistic. 
> > This team has the unmistakable makeup of a team that fades and either
> > misses the playoffs or makes it and is bounced early.  Why? We have
> > slugged our way to this point, without solid pitching and defense. 
> > Last year the big run was accomplished by pitching and defense.
> >
> >

The bullpen has been dreadful, the offense terrific. The Sox may be able to
survive and win
the division if Foulke returns and Schilling is less than sharp; Schilling would
then have to
be on reasonable form for any shot in the playoffs. The AL this season is a
mixed bag of
teams that all have some kind of issue, although the Angels, notwithstanding
their sweep
by the Rays, seem to be the best balanced if F-Rod regains his form.

What was the stat in the Globe the other day (now updated) -- that the bullpen
has
pitched shutout ball twice in now 22 games? That isn't going to cut it. All of
the other
contenders have better-performing bullpens right now.

I think we'll know what the Sox's chances are Labor Day, because this week is
the last
great chance to widen the margin. The Yanks still have to face Felix Hernandez
and the A's
this week, and the Sox have to maintain their Fenway dominance. If that happens,
I expect
a division title. Though deep down I expect an Angels (though I'd rather see
White Sox)-
Cardinals World Series.

Glenn

P.S.: But all of this being said, if Theo & Co. can keep the farm system
together, I think the
Sox will finally have their long, consistent run together in the very near
future. It's hard to
pass on one season and wait, but we may find that even if they fail this year,
by '07 the
Sox may really be the big dogs in the division.







--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "jecarney64" <jecarney64@y...> wrote:
> I agree with Matt - this team has some great hitting, but it's
> pitching and defense are flawed.  I think the Sox can take the
> division or perhaps the Wild Card.   But the Yankees have some serious
> flaws too, so this year the wild card may not even come from the AL
> East.   Who knows, anything can happen in October, as well all saw
> last year.   We really need Schilling and Foulke to stabilize the
> pitching staff.
>
> --- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> > Of course I want to win again, too.  But I'm trying to be realistic.
> > This team has the unmistakable makeup of a team that fades and either
> > misses the playoffs or makes it and is bounced early.  Why? We have
> > slugged our way to this point, without solid pitching and defense.
> > Last year the big run was accomplished by pitching and defense.
> >
> >

That time of year with rumours....every other source is stating that
Trachsel did NOT ask for a trade and that the Mets are not looking to
trade him.


Don't hold your breath on us getting trachsel...every source bar Olney
is saying the chances of a deal for him are all but zero.

Cheers
Rich





jecarney64@... wrote:

>According the the Fire Brand blog, Astros reliever Chad Harville was
>claimed on waivers by the Sox.
>
>Also "according to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Red Sox are close to
>acquiring Steve Trachsel from the New York Mets who after throwing a
>gem was banished to the bullpen. Steve has demanded a trade. The Mets
>are asking for a relief pitcher, and also would consider a first
>baseman - John Olerud or Roberto Petagine. (Apparently, Kevin Millar
>is not available.)"
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According the the Fire Brand blog, Astros reliever Chad Harville was
claimed on waivers by the Sox.

Also "according to ESPN's Buster Olney, the Red Sox are close to
acquiring Steve Trachsel from the New York Mets who after throwing a
gem was banished to the bullpen. Steve has demanded a trade. The Mets
are asking for a relief pitcher, and also would consider a first
baseman - John Olerud or Roberto Petagine. (Apparently, Kevin Millar
is not available.)"

For years and years it was the other way around, the Red Sox picking
up Yankees cast-offs.   Can't wait to see Bellhorn strike out again!

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "franticfan2000"
<franticfan2000@y...> wrote:
> Well, Bellhorn has come through big time in the playoff's and in
> clutch hitting...Funny, the Yanks are taking our cast-off's though.
> Embree, I don't worry about helping the Yankee's, Bellhorn could.
> fran
>

We all know how long it took to expose Palmeiro, in my opinion, this
late in the season, they should test the contending teams frequently.
Wells said he'd been tested three times this year already..that made me
laugh..
fran
-- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> The guy is really starting to irritate me.
>
>
>
> He just hit a 3 run homer against Seattle.  4 homers in 2 games.
>
>
>
> There is no way he is not on the juice.  He's an admitted user.
This year
> he's almost sent back to the minors early on, goes on a tear,
completely
> cannot hit for a month, and now goes on a HR tear again.  How can
this guy
> not be on the stuff?  How come they can't catch him?  If they have
him
> already it's unconscionable that he hasn't been exposed.

We all know how long it took to expose Palmeiro, in my opinion, this
late in the season, they should test the contending teams frequently.
Wells said he'd been tested three times this year already..that made me
laugh..
fran
-- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> The guy is really starting to irritate me.
>
>
>
> He just hit a 3 run homer against Seattle.  4 homers in 2 games.
>
>
>
> There is no way he is not on the juice.  He's an admitted user.
This year
> he's almost sent back to the minors early on, goes on a tear,
completely
> cannot hit for a month, and now goes on a HR tear again.  How can
this guy
> not be on the stuff?  How come they can't catch him?  If they have
him
> already it's unconscionable that he hasn't been exposed.

Well, Bellhorn has come through big time in the playoff's and in
clutch hitting...Funny, the Yanks are taking our cast-off's though.
Embree, I don't worry about helping the Yankee's, Bellhorn could.
fran

-- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> See http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?
ymd=20050829
> <http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?
ymd=20050829&con
> tent_id=1188893&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy>
> &content_id=1188893&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy
>
>
>
> Embree and Bellhorn - it's payback time for Ramiro Mendoza.

RS:Rico Petrocelli/Manny

Non RS: Hank Aaron/Ralph Garr

--- Jeff <punnybone@...> wrote:

> --- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Zvi Shilon"
> <zvika6@z...> wrote:
> > I seemed to have a lot of success with the four
> (six) sports
> > question, so I decided to try again. Name your top
> two favourite
> > Red Sox players and your top two favourite non-Red
> Sox (do not
> > include former Red Sox in part two). Again,I will
> start the ball
> > rolling.
> >
> > Red Sox:      1/ Ted Williams              2/ Carl
> Yaztremski
> > Non-Red Sox:  1/ Sandy Koufax - Dodgers    2/ Duke
> Snider - Dodgers
>
> I asked similar questions in 2(or was it 3?) recent
> polls in the
> other/newer Friendly Fenway group, so you'll find
> some folks
> answers(of a sort, at least) over there.  I remember
> I had a poll
> about your favorite current Bosox and your fave of
> all-time.  I may
> have also had one for your fave ex-Bosox too.  I
> don't remember tho.
>
> My fave Bosox are:
> 1) Damon and 2) Varitek.
>
> Carl Yastrzemski & Jim Rice are close behind.  But
> their eras
> are largely prior to mine, so I "favored" the guys I
> can remember
> seeing play a lot, either in person, on TV, or both.
>  I'd put Lynn
> with Rice & Yaz, but most of his career was
> elsewhere, UNfortunately.
> After them, I mostly like unusual/non-traditional
> pix.  Like Greenwell.
>
> My fave non-Bosox are:
> 1) Mike Schmidt - Phils and 2) Steve Carlton -
> Phils.
>
> Getting back to the last 2 parts of your earlier
> question: although
> I _rarely_  watch it at all, I root for Penn State &
> UMichigan in
> CFB along with rooting against Ohio State,
> Miami(Fla), and Notre
> Dame(and I'm a hoosier too!).  I couldn't care less
> about CBB tho.
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I agree with Matt - this team has some great hitting, but it's
pitching and defense are flawed.  I think the Sox can take the
division or perhaps the Wild Card.   But the Yankees have some serious
flaws too, so this year the wild card may not even come from the AL
East.   Who knows, anything can happen in October, as well all saw
last year.   We really need Schilling and Foulke to stabilize the
pitching staff.

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Osber" <mosber@o...> wrote:
> Of course I want to win again, too.  But I'm trying to be realistic.
> This team has the unmistakable makeup of a team that fades and either
> misses the playoffs or makes it and is bounced early.  Why? We have
> slugged our way to this point, without solid pitching and defense.
> Last year the big run was accomplished by pitching and defense.
>
>

Of course I want to win again, too.  But I'm trying to be realistic.
This team has the unmistakable makeup of a team that fades and either
misses the playoffs or makes it and is bounced early.  Why? We have
slugged our way to this point, without solid pitching and defense.
Last year the big run was accomplished by pitching and defense.

Management can be blamed for wasting too much time on retreads like
Remlinger, Halama, and Mantei when we could have been bringing some
young pitchers along.  They couldn't have done worse.

I wasn't saying forget this year, but rather optimism for next year.
This is the first time in many years we've got a crop of kids to look
forward to watching.

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Sean Wilson <scoop1981@y...>
wrote:
> Hey, I want to win THIS year, AGAIN!  And it can be done. Yes, we
need some big things to work out in our favor. The problem is that
none of the moves the Sox management have made have really worked
out. Yes, Wells and Clement have been OK, about what I expected and
maybe a little bit better than expected with Wells. The bullpen has
been a disaster, Schilling did not come back from the injury has
hoped, Wade Miller has been poor and Renteria is somewhat of a
disappointment.
>
> If the Sox don't make the playoffs I will hold the management
accountable for going into this season with two proven stiffs in the
bullpen (Halama and Mantei). They left no margin for error, and they
should have anticipated the tight trade market. Overall, the  Theo &
Co. have struggled with the bullpen for most of their tenure, going
back to the embarrassing "bullpen by committee" in the beginning of
2003.
>

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Sean Wilson <scoop1981@y...>
wrote:
>
> The next week to 10 days will tell the story - we can see the
> next two Schilling starts and see how Foulke looks. We need both
> of these guys to be effective to excellent to have a chance of
> winning a playoff series and maybe even making the playoffs.

Yes, I agree; the next 10 days or so will tell a story.  But, at the
risk of being overly optimistic(just when I'm sure many here thought
I was being overly pessimistic, lol), I think the story they'll tell
is WHICH playoff spot(ALE or ALWC) is more likely to be ours this
season.

Iow, maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I DON'T see us missing the
playoffs entirely this season.  "Maybe even making the playoffs"?
Imo, we'll get there, it's just a matter of HOW(ALE or ALWC) at this
point.

Yes, you're right; "these things happen".

But so do pennant races like '78.  And/or first round playoff
eliminations, via SWEEPS, after division titles, like '95.

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Rich Grove <Grich1159@a...>
wrote:
> Don't forget though Jeff that the skankees got swept at KC
> earlier this season...these things happen.
>
> Cheers
> Rich
>
> punnybone@y... wrote:
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> >--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, John Carney
<jecarney64@y...>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I was just scoreboard watching, the Yankees rallied
> >>for 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to beat KC
> >>(Saturday afternoon) Geez, how are they doing it?
> >>
> >Well, they're playing KC.  To quote from Blues Clues, "that's the
> >first clue".
> >
> >Good teams beat the teams they should beat, and KC is DEFinitely
> >one of those teams.  I'm NOT saying we're not a good team, but I
> >still can't believe we lost 2 of 3 to them earlier this week!
> >Losing 1 of 3 to them, and/or going extra innings in a game vs
> >them is bad enough.  But losing a series to the WORST team in the
> >AL(if not all of baseball), bar none???!!!
> >
> >Maybe I should be glad they're not in our division and we're done
> >playing them for the season?  Particularly since if they were in
> >our division, they'd also be in the Yanks' division and they'd get
> >to beat up on them that much more often.

To me it will be an amazing thing if the Sox pull it together and
either hang onto first place or get the WC.  We have no #1 starter
and no closer.  If Schilling and Foulke regain last year's form, and
Wells and Clement need to pitch well.

I know we want to win now and every year, but in some ways it's an
inconvenience to be in first place right now.  All of the kids could
be getting a shot at the major league level.  Next year is going to
be interesting.

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Sean Wilson <scoop1981@y...>
wrote:
> I'll tell you how the Yankees are doing it. Its real simple - they
are getting good pitching for the most part, at least equal to the
Sox starters and thier bullpen is much better because they still have
a lights-out closer in Rivera.  Saturday night was an embarassment
with the Sox sending in Gonzalez and Remlinger to put the game out of
reach. I'm sorry, but is is difficult to be optimistic with this
collection of rag arms in the bullpen.
>

Don't forget though Jeff that the skankees got swept at KC earlier this
season...these things happen.

Cheers
Rich




punnybone@... wrote:

>--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, John Carney <jecarney64@y...>
>wrote:
> 
>
>>I was just scoreboard watching, the Yankees rallied
>>for 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to beat KC
>>(Saturday afternoon) Geez, how are they doing it?
>>   
>>
>
>Well, they're playing KC.  To quote from Blues Clues, "that's the
>first clue".
>
>Good teams beat the teams they should beat, and KC is DEFinitely one
>of those teams.  I'm NOT saying we're not a good team, but I still
>can't believe we lost 2 of 3 to them earlier this week!   Losing 1
>of 3 to them, and/or going extra innings in a game vs them is bad
>enough.  But losing a series to the WORST team in the AL(if not all
>of baseball), bar none???!!! 
>
>Maybe I should be glad they're not in our division and we're done
>playing them for the season?  Particularly since if they were in
>our division, they'd also be in the Yanks' division and they'd get
>to beat up on them that much more often.
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The Devil Rays visit Fenway for a 4 game series, while the Yankees
head west to face Seattle.    Nice win for the Sox today, good to take
2 out of 3 from Detroit.   It's also nice to see Abe Alvarez up with
the big club.

--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, Rich Grove <Grich1159@a...> wrote:
> Don't forget though Jeff that the skankees got swept at KC earlier
this season...these things happen.
>
> Cheers
> Rich
>
>

Don't forget though Jeff that the skankees got swept at KC earlier this
season...these things happen.

Cheers
Rich




punnybone@... wrote:

>--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, John Carney <jecarney64@y...>
>wrote:
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>>I was just scoreboard watching, the Yankees rallied
>>for 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to beat KC
>>(Saturday afternoon) Geez, how are they doing it?
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>Well, they're playing KC.  To quote from Blues Clues, "that's the
>first clue".
>
>Good teams beat the teams they should beat, and KC is DEFinitely one
>of those teams.  I'm NOT saying we're not a good team, but I still
>can't believe we lost 2 of 3 to them earlier this week!   Losing 1
>of 3 to them, and/or going extra innings in a game vs them is bad
>enough.  But losing a series to the WORST team in the AL(if not all
>of baseball), bar none???!!!
>
>Maybe I should be glad they're not in our division and we're done
>playing them for the season?  Particularly since if they were in
>our division, they'd also be in the Yanks' division and they'd get
>to beat up on them that much more often.
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--- In friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com, John Carney <jecarney64@y...>
wrote:
> I was just scoreboard watching, the Yankees rallied
> for 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to beat KC
> (Saturday afternoon) Geez, how are they doing it?

Well, they're playing KC.  To quote from Blues Clues, "that's the
first clue".

Good teams beat the teams they should beat, and KC is DEFinitely one
of those teams.  I'm NOT saying we're not a good team, but I still
can't believe we lost 2 of 3 to them earlier this week!   Losing 1
of 3 to them, and/or going extra innings in a game vs them is bad
enough.  But losing a series to the WORST team in the AL(if not all
of baseball), bar none???!!!

Maybe I should be glad they're not in our division and we're done
playing them for the season?  Particularly since if they were in
our division, they'd also be in the Yanks' division and they'd get
to beat up on them that much more often.