From: NebraskaRSfan <airchief43@...>
Subject: RE: Friendly Fenway Re: Nomar Dreams Of Finishing Career With Red Sox
To: friendlyfenway@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:38 PM

If by caught in the machine,  you mean  that Nomar was a player who ‘seemingly’ exhibited the behaviors of someone on roids?  If you mean he  also fell victim to greed by turning down a 4 year $60 million contract? Then we can agree he got caught up in the machine..  If you mean Sox management stuck it to him then we have to agree to disagree,  as in my opinion, Nomar did far more to hasten his exit from Boston than the ‘machine’ did to push him out.  

 

How well did holding out, sulking and quitting on his teammates  work out for him?  And folks conveniently forget how Nomar got injured ?/ Playing soccer with Mia when his contract supposedly forbade that? How does one magically show up to spring training (Trot Nixon anyone?) with an injury that they don’t remember how they did it?

 

  Nomar had a good run with the Red Sox.. It could have  been for 4 additional years.  It was his decision not to accept that.  When he did things like quitting on his teammates, Theo had little choice but to get rid of him . 

 

 I have spent 35 years on a baseball diamond as a player and as an umpire through the AAA level. I can still remember that game with the Yankees when Jeter showed Nomar what team leadership is all about by diving into the stands to make a superb play while Nomar sat in the dugout staring into space while his teammates were on the tops step of the dugout supporting their team.  Only a player who wants off the team does that.. Nomar made it clear he wanted out

 

 Anyone who has played team sports truly understands the impact on the team when a player quits on the team.  Nomar could not separate his own efforts to win a better contract from his responsibility toward the team.  Que Sera… He suffered the consequences of that… by playing the next two years for half of what he would have received in Boston …  The truly sad thing is that Nomar had the chance to enhance his image with Sox fans to the point of being remembered with the elite of Red Sox players… Now?  Quite a mixed bag. 

 

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From: friendlyfenway@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: friendlyfenway@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Sean Wilson
Sent: July 10, 2009 10:55
To: friendlyfenway@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: Friendly Fenway Re: Nomar Dreams Of Finishing Career With Red Sox

 

Nomar would have to be down to his last dollar to come back to the Sox. Remember how Luccino trashed him on the way out? All of a sudden we heard about all the "trouble" with Nomar.   I gotta admit, I was on this board absolutely trashing the Nomar trade in 2004. I was obvioulsy wrong. For one thing Cabrera was an "upgrade" simply because he was a healthy, slick fielding SS. Nomar's health/availability was a big question.  I still think Nomar was a great Sox player that just got caught in the machine. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Larry Bromley <labro54@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Larry Bromley <labro54@yahoo. com> Subject: Friendly Fenway Re: Nomar Dreams Of Finishing Career With Red Sox To: friendlyfenway@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 12:38 AM Does he LOOK like a juicer? WTH is that question for? You start out defending him, then there's that little implication. Are you suspicious of anyone who gets hurt now? I'd like to see this group suddenly come to life in response to the steriod claim. go.john99 <no_reply@.. .> wrote: > > Nomar was absolutely one of my favorites. The talk shows were still trying to badmouth him Monday, saying they didn't think he was sincere with his pre-game comments. I think he is sincere and seemed to appreciate the ovation. > > The unanswered question is was he a juicer and did this contribute to his quick downfall, or was it just injuries? I still appreciate all he did, including the 3 HR game I saw (the one on his birthday).