----- Original Message -----

From: David Bennett

To: Dee Reed

Cc: fleetfeetrunnersclub@yahoogroups.com ; llauner@... ; SLTC

Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:24 AM

Subject: Re: [fleetfeetrunnersclub] Marion Jones admits to doping

Not Lasse Viren! He was one of the best ever, and to my knowledge
never accused
of anything illegal. The Guy who beat Shorter in 76 (Shorter won gold in 72)
was a Czec named Cierpinski I believe.

Quoting Dee Reed <deereed@centurytel.net>:

>
>
> Yes I remember during 1972 Munich that I think it was German Las
> Viren won
> the marathon when it should have been frank shorter, because Las was
> doping
> or drugs, something to that, and Frank is still trying to strip his
> medal.
> Yes I suppose this has always been there, but it sure doesn't set a
> good
> example for the young up coming kids and who their role models are
> anymore.
> Do you think basically the athletes trust their trainers and take
> whatever
> they give them and think its good for them? Don't they ever question
> what
> the coaches or trainers are giving them and investigate it. I sure
> would
> want to know what my trainer was giving me, vitamins as he says or
> not,
> there is simple lab tests you can do.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "Dee Reed" ;
>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [fleetfeetrunnersclub] Marion Jones admits to doping
>
>>> This is getting bad, so I guess there are no real winners anymore?
>>
>> I read about this and this is all fallout from a company called
> BALCO
>> which took advantage of many athletes, both Olympic and
> professional and
>> practically junked them up.
>>
>> There are some great athletes. What I don't like is now the aura
> of
>> suspicion on every athlete that the media places on them after an
>> incredible feat, whether it is a win or a record breaker. Back in
> the
>> days of the Cold War and when I was a kid, even in the 1970s and
> 1980s,
>> you heard about the blood doping and all of the other stuff that
>> eventually was "discovered" in the 1990s. The surprise was that
> East
>> Germany was more of a villian compared to the Soviet Union. It
> really
>> isn't anything new. Yes, some medals have been stripped and titles
> have
>> been returned.
>>
>> What young athletes should do is to compete and go at it fair and
> square.
>> But there's always this push for new records and that is not the
> essence
>> or the incentive of competition that needs to exist. It should be
> on any
>> given day, the best time on that day against that field. Athletes
>> definitely need to be clean. But it is all of this scrutiny that
> the
>> "jury of the media" and the "court of public opinion" place on the
> athlete
>> that is the real tarnish to track and field and other sports.
>>
>> Louis
>>
>>
>>
>
>