Thanks for the links, those pads are significantly cheaper than CRC, i'll give
them a go. I heard the same horror stories about superstar pads from STW but I
think that was a while ago, hopefully it has been sorted out now.

The bedding technique is interesting, you are putting alot of heat into pads
very quickly right from the start. With cars you are suppose to let the pads
wear gently to 'mold' to the groves in the disc before using them too
aggressively. Too much heat results in glazing the pads at the hot spots as not
all the pad is in contact with the disc. Where the pads have glazed they become
very hard with reduced performance - maybe this is how you are getting such good
life?!

With the rate I'm going through pads I suppose I am going to have plently of
oportunities to try these bedding in methods and see what difference it makes!

cheers
Mark



--- In edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com, Sandy Thomson <sandy.thomson@...> wrote:
>
> I've always done as Andrew suggests and never had a problem.
>
> 2009/11/23 steven cannon <stevencannon1@...>
>
> > Hi Mark, Andrews right! you need to bed those bad boys in. They reckon it
> > takes about 20-30 hard stops to do this, i always take my bike out for a
> > spin on the road after fitting new pads. What this does is bakes the pads
> > making them harder to wear down. I've never tried the water trick but i
> > read
> > somewhere that doing this tempers the rotor and as Andrew says it puts a
> > thin layer of pad on the rotor. I've tried the superstar pads and they
> > worked fine but after hearing a few horror stories about them falling to
> > pieces i switched to these
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4Prs-8Pads-Sintered-Avid-Juicy-7-5-3-Disc-Brake-Pads_W0QQi\
temZ200405486534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=it\
em2ea9190bc6#ht_650wt_928
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Andrew Whyte <andrewmwhyte@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope. Did you bed them in?
> > >
> > > What I do when I fit new pads is clean the rotor(s) with meths, go out
> > into
> > > the street and do some sprints, then hit the brakes hard. Then squirt the
> > > rotors and calipers with tap water. Repeat until the rotors are boiling
> > hot
> > > (x10?). In theory this puts a layer of pad on the rotor, and conditions
> > the
> > > face of the pad to make it resist breaking down. I'm sure someone will
> > pop
> > > up to say this is bollocks though!
> > >
> > > I always use sintered pads (Superstar ones, to be precise) and they are
> > > lasting me >6 months.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Mark Cook <markcook1@... <markcook1%40gmail.com>>
> > > To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com <edinburghmtb%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 15:20:09
> > > Subject: [edinburghmtb] Chewing through brake pads
> > >
> > >
> > > Did anyone else kill their brakes on the ride on saturday morning?
> > > I fitted new pads front and back before that ride and the rear pads were
> > > worn down to the metal! There wasn't much left on the front either.
> > > I can't afford a set of pads per ride, was it just the weather or have I
> > > got a problem?
> > > cheers
> > > Mark
> > > PS. For those interested they are Juicy 5's with sintered pads, recently
> > > bled and everything seems fine.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ERC Links
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > ERC Links
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi everybody,

My name is Grant, i'm from Australia and my girlfriend and I are moving to
Edinburgh in March next year.

I've been following this group for a few weeks now and it is great to see that
there appears to be a rather loyal MTB fraternity gracing the area.

If it's ok i would like to ask a couple of questions.

Firstly, what would be the best suburb to live in to be the closest to the local
trails but not too far from the city?

Have any of you ridden in Australia? Are any of your trails comparable to
anything out here, but here being of a lower standard, more so terrain?

I'm probably not going to have a car, so is there any easy way to get to the
larger trail centres without a vehicle?

Thanks in advanced. I can't wait to get over there and meet some of you and hit
the trails!!

Cheers,

Grant.

If you'd like to support the Cardrona project's application for People's
Millions funding voting takes place today.



For more info see:



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I've always done as Andrew suggests and never had a problem.

2009/11/23 steven cannon <stevencannon1@...>

> Hi Mark, Andrews right! you need to bed those bad boys in. They reckon it
> takes about 20-30 hard stops to do this, i always take my bike out for a
> spin on the road after fitting new pads. What this does is bakes the pads
> making them harder to wear down. I've never tried the water trick but i
> read
> somewhere that doing this tempers the rotor and as Andrew says it puts a
> thin layer of pad on the rotor. I've tried the superstar pads and they
> worked fine but after hearing a few horror stories about them falling to
> pieces i switched to these
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4Prs-8Pads-Sintered-Avid-Juicy-7-5-3-Disc-Brake-Pads_W0QQi\
temZ200405486534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=it\
em2ea9190bc6#ht_650wt_928
>
> Cheers
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Andrew Whyte <andrewmwhyte@...
> >wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Nope. Did you bed them in?
> >
> > What I do when I fit new pads is clean the rotor(s) with meths, go out
> into
> > the street and do some sprints, then hit the brakes hard. Then squirt the
> > rotors and calipers with tap water. Repeat until the rotors are boiling
> hot
> > (x10?). In theory this puts a layer of pad on the rotor, and conditions
> the
> > face of the pad to make it resist breaking down. I'm sure someone will
> pop
> > up to say this is bollocks though!
> >
> > I always use sintered pads (Superstar ones, to be precise) and they are
> > lasting me >6 months.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Mark Cook <markcook1@... <markcook1%40gmail.com>>
> > To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com <edinburghmtb%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 15:20:09
> > Subject: [edinburghmtb] Chewing through brake pads
> >
> >
> > Did anyone else kill their brakes on the ride on saturday morning?
> > I fitted new pads front and back before that ride and the rear pads were
> > worn down to the metal! There wasn't much left on the front either.
> > I can't afford a set of pads per ride, was it just the weather or have I
> > got a problem?
> > cheers
> > Mark
> > PS. For those interested they are Juicy 5's with sintered pads, recently
> > bled and everything seems fine.
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > ERC Links
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
> ERC Links
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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Hi Mark, Andrews right! you need to bed those bad boys in. They reckon it
takes about 20-30 hard stops to do this, i always take my bike out for a
spin on the road after fitting new pads. What this does is bakes the pads
making them harder to wear down. I've never tried the water trick but i read
somewhere that doing this tempers the rotor and as Andrew says it puts a
thin layer of pad on the rotor. I've tried the superstar pads and they
worked fine but after hearing a few horror stories about them falling to
pieces i switched to these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4Prs-8Pads-Sintered-Avid-Juicy-7-5-3-Disc-Brake-Pads_W0QQi\
temZ200405486534QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=it\
em2ea9190bc6#ht_650wt_928

Cheers

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Andrew Whyte <andrewmwhyte@...>wrote:

>
>
> Nope. Did you bed them in?
>
> What I do when I fit new pads is clean the rotor(s) with meths, go out into
> the street and do some sprints, then hit the brakes hard. Then squirt the
> rotors and calipers with tap water. Repeat until the rotors are boiling hot
> (x10?). In theory this puts a layer of pad on the rotor, and conditions the
> face of the pad to make it resist breaking down. I'm sure someone will pop
> up to say this is bollocks though!
>
> I always use sintered pads (Superstar ones, to be precise) and they are
> lasting me >6 months.
>
> Andrew
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mark Cook <markcook1@... <markcook1%40gmail.com>>
> To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com <edinburghmtb%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 15:20:09
> Subject: [edinburghmtb] Chewing through brake pads
>
>
> Did anyone else kill their brakes on the ride on saturday morning?
> I fitted new pads front and back before that ride and the rear pads were
> worn down to the metal! There wasn't much left on the front either.
> I can't afford a set of pads per ride, was it just the weather or have I
> got a problem?
> cheers
> Mark
> PS. For those interested they are Juicy 5's with sintered pads, recently
> bled and everything seems fine.
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> ERC Links
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Nope.  Did you bed them in?

What I do when I fit new pads is clean the rotor(s) with meths, go out into the
street and do some sprints, then hit the brakes hard.  Then squirt the rotors
and calipers with tap water.  Repeat until the rotors are boiling hot (x10?). 
In theory this puts a layer of pad on the rotor, and conditions the face of the
pad to make it resist breaking down.  I'm sure someone will pop up to say this
is bollocks though!

I always use sintered pads (Superstar ones, to be precise) and they are lasting
me >6 months.

Andrew




________________________________
From: Mark Cook <markcook1@...>
To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 23 November, 2009 15:20:09
Subject: [edinburghmtb] Chewing through brake pads

Did anyone else kill their brakes on the ride on saturday morning?
I fitted new pads front and back before that ride and the rear pads were worn
down to the metal! There wasn't much left on the front either.
I can't afford a set of pads per ride, was it just the weather or have I got a
problem?
cheers
Mark
PS. For those interested they are Juicy 5's with sintered pads, recently bled
and everything seems fine.



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ERC Links

Yahoo! Groups Links






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Did anyone else kill their brakes on the ride on saturday morning?
I fitted new pads front and back before that ride and the rear pads were worn
down to the metal! There wasn't much left on the front either.
I can't afford a set of pads per ride, was it just the weather or have I got a
problem?
cheers
Mark
PS. For those interested they are Juicy 5's with sintered pads, recently bled
and everything seems fine.

A Number 10 petition has been set up to make it law for vehicle drivers to give
cyclists a three foot minimum clearance when passing - whatever one feels about
how enforceable a law like this would be, it does actually put it in the drivers
mind that three foot is the minimum (not 6" Mr Astra driver on a blind
bend!!!!). Whereas, the Highway is quite ambiguous on this - it just says
sufficient space, which to me is anything down to where it does not cause the
cyclist to fall off.

If you feel strongly about this please sign and email on.

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/3feet2Pass/

Hi gang,

Will be heading out into the darkness at 6.30pm. Meeting at Westgarth Ave as per
usual.

Ian

Here's a final reminder that our club AGM is tonight (Monday 16th
November) at the Eric Liddell Centre, 15 Morningside Road from 7pm.



Although our club president Ken Whitson is currently on holiday in
Borneo and therefore won't be able to attend he has finally managed to
e-mail me a copy of his presidential report. You can read this online
(along with the rest of our AGM papers) at
http://www.edinburghrc.co.uk/news/627/57/ERC-AGM-papers.



Regards,

Jonny



Jonny May

Secretary, Edinburgh RC

www.edinburghrc.co.uk



jonny.may@...





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Riding Innerleithen Sunday 15th 10.30 start come on down if you want to ride.
Sorry bit late to post up :)

I'll be there mr Scally with my bullet proof vest on. No need for any tools,
i'll go mental with my bare hands....just like i did back in 'Nam.

--- In edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com, "Ian S" <bluenavyblues@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'll be heading up into the hills leaving at 6.30 from Westgarth if anyone
cares to join me.
>
> I suggest that after last weeks shenanigans we make sure we are tooled up and
ready for action....i suggest catapults made from inner tubes or throwing stars
made from chainrings or jockey wheels (luckily my bike comes ready supplied with
these!!).
>
> Ian
>

Hi Gang,

I'll be heading up into the hills leaving at 6.30 from Westgarth if anyone cares
to join me.

I suggest that after last weeks shenanigans we make sure we are tooled up and
ready for action....i suggest catapults made from inner tubes or throwing stars
made from chainrings or jockey wheels (luckily my bike comes ready supplied with
these!!).

Ian

Hi guys,

Not ridden with you lot for quite a while as I ride mostly with the
Edinburgh Uni club but hoping to get out again on the night rides in the
winter. Anyway, I put a note on the Edinburgh Uni forum about the
incident with the farmer on Wednesday night and found out he has
previously chased a group of riders with his quad bike and nearly ran
one over a few years ago.

Given this and the message from Iain I sincerely hope you'll be
reporting this incident to the police. Threatening people with a firearm
(of any description) is a serious offence and the police will take it
very seriously.

Cheers

Stu

iain321@... wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I've not yet joined you on a cycle but feel compelled to add to the
discussion.
>
>
>
> I live in Blinkbonny at the foot of Poets Glen and the farmer is well known to
us for his threats to anyone; walker, dog-walker, cyclist or in fact any other
person who has a legitimate reason to use the public right of way that passes
through his farm.
>
>
>
> I would urge anyone that is threatened by him to contact the police and report
the incident as behaviour like this must not go unreported.
>
>
>
> I'm looking forward to joining you on a cycle soon.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Iain
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Nile Blue <niblue@...>
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 04:58:15
>
> To: <edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [edinburghmtb] Re: wednesday night Pentlands
>
>
>
> Might also be worth getting someone with a helmet or bar mounted video camera
in the group to record the incident if it occurs again.
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/11/09, Graeme Blance <macpuppy@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> From: Graeme Blance <macpuppy@...>
>>
>
>
>> Subject: Re: [edinburghmtb] Re: wednesday night Pentlands
>>
>
>
>> To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com
>>
>
>
>> Date: Friday, 6 November, 2009, 12:51
>>
>
>
>> I'd have pulled my mobile out there
>>
>
>
>> and then and called the police in front
>>
>
>
>> of him !
>>
>
>
>> Might have used it to record an image of him while I was at
>>
>
>
>> it.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Helen Findlay
<helenmfindlay@...>wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> Somebody stood there with a gun, threatening to shoot
>>>
>
>
>> you, and the advice
>>
>
>
>>> is to call out the Rights of Way Strike Team ??
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Unless they have got a lot more butch recently, I
>>>
>
>
>> would have called the
>>
>
>
>>> cops, see if Farmer John likes the damage the Armed
>>>
>
>
>> Offenders Squad would do
>>
>
>
>>> to his land... (or his sheep)
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Or maybe I just watched too many episodes of
>>>
>
>
>> Generation Kill.
>>
>
>
>
>
>>> H
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> (from the comfort of her laptop at home)
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>
>
>>> From: Mark Cook <markcook1@...
>>>
>
>
>> <markcook1%40gmail.com>>
>>
>
>
>>> To: edinburghmtb@yahoogroups.com
>>>
>
>
>> <edinburghmtb%40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>
>
>>> Sent: Fri, 6 November, 2009 11:20:43
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Subject: [edinburghmtb] Re: wednesday night Pentlands
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> According to google maps we met him here: 55.88911,-3.
>>>
>
>
>> 295379
>>
>
>
>>> It was the farm at the end of Harlaw Road, at the top
>>>
>
>
>> of poet's glen, below
>>
>
>
>>> the radio mast.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Just to add to this, he wasn't concerned about his
>>>
>
>
>> sheep, he was determined
>>
>
>
>>> that there is just one group who ride from Colington
>>>
>
>
>> and back who are
>>
>
>
>>> ruining his paths. When I asked him which path he
>>>
>
>
>> meant he wouldn't specify
>>
>
>
>>> and that's when it decended into farce.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> For the record it looked like he was doing some
>>>
>
>
>> lamping, the gun was more
>>
>
>
>>> like a .22 or even an air rifle but it doesn't change
>>>
>
>
>> the fact he mentioned
>>
>
>
>>> shooting people...
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> Mark
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>> --- In edinburghmtb@ yahoogroups. com, Nile Blue
>>>
>
>
>> <niblue@...> wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> What area does this happen in?
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> --- On Fri, 6/11/09, Andrew Whyte
>>>>
>
>
>> <andrewmwhyte@ ...> wrote:
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> From: Andrew Whyte <andrewmwhyte@ ...>
>>>>
>
>
>>>> Subject: Re: [edinburghmtb] Re: wednesday night
>>>>
>
>
>> Pentlands
>>
>
>
>>>> To: edinburghmtb@ yahoogroups. com
>>>>
>
>
>>>> Date: Friday, 6 November, 2009, 10:59
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> Â
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> I agree. It should be raised with the police or,
>>>>
>
>
>> at the very least,
>>
>
>
>>> Pentlands ranger service. Their contact details are at
>>>
>
>
>> http://www.edinburg
>>
>
>
>>> h.gov.uk/ phrp/contactus/ contactus. html I suppose we
>>>
>
>
>> could ask at the
>>
>
>
>>> Harlaw ranger station tomorrow if we are going past.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>> It is tupping season though, so maybe that is why
>>>>
>
>
>> he was concerned about
>>
>
>
>>> disturbing the sheep? I saw some signs about that last
>>>
>
>
>> Saturday.
>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> Bill - you didn't say where you met this chap,
>>>>
>
>
>> and where his farm is?
>>
>
>
>>> Just so others can be wary.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>
>
>>>> From: dougie_mtb <dougie@hotmail. co.uk>
>>>>
>
>
>>>> To: edinburghmtb@ yahoogroups. com
>>>>
>
>
>>>> Sent: Thu, 5 November, 2009 22:45:23
>>>>
>
>
>>>> Subject: [edinburghmtb] Re: wednesday night
>>>>
>
>
>> Pentlands
>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> <rant>
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> I think it is about time we get some details and
>>>>
>
>
>> report this Farmer to
>>
>
>
>>> the Police. If I ever meet him again, and I have met
>>>
>
>
>> him and his gun before,
>>
>
>
>>> I'd be tempted to post a copy of the Public Access
>>>
>
>
>> Laws through his door
>>
>
>
>>> with a copy of a letter addressed to the Police.
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> Who does he think he is terrorising riders, who
>>>>
>
>
>> are perfectly entitled to
>>
>
>
>>> be there (more than him if you want my deepest
>>>
>
>
>> opinions). If he is worried
>>
>
>
>>> about his precious sheep, I've yet to see any sheep
>>>
>
>
>> scared by a mountain
>>
>
>
>>> bike rider and run for more than a handful of yards.
>>>
>
>
>> If his sheep are
>>
>
>
>>> scattered its more likely to be caused by un-leashed
>>>
>
>
>> dogs. Fair enough if it
>>
>
>
>>> is lambing season, but last time I checked that wasn't
>>>
>
>
>> now.
>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> </rant> :-)
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>> --- In edinburghmtb@ yahoogroups. com,
>>>>
>
>
>> "billdaborn04" <billdaborn@ ...>
>>
>
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
>
>
>
>>>>> Wednesday 4th. Good night ride in the
>>>>>
>
>
>> Pentlands, 4 out then me late had
>>
>
>
>>> to play catch up. Met nice farmer with shot gun under
>>>
>
>
>> arm telling us that we
>>
>
>
>>> were not allowed to ride on His hills. When asked
>>>
>
>
>> about the gun he said he
>>
>
>
>>> was going to shoot next rider who came across his
>>>
>
>
>> road. Nice man. I think he
>>
>
>
>>> does not like mbk riders some how. I can see his point
>>>
>
>
>> if we were cutting up
>>
>
>
>>> tracks ECT but we were on a hard packed public road at
>>>
>
>
>> the time.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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