Does anybody sail off the north side of Pineda (in the Banana River) anymore? Is there anywhere to launch there these days? I remember some really fun days in the past on a wind such as the last couple of days...(From what I understand, the NE wind has to do w/ the remnants of Henri to our north)...

   Anyway, thanks for all the great reports - I'll get back out there one of these days...

Fred Cheney

Clyde wrote:

 OK you forum users, where oh where were you on Wed. afternoon? NE
winds sent me up to 14th Street only to leave to soon and miss the
good wind there. Patience. Oh well, ended up at the BRR and sailed
powered to over on a 6.7 in really flat water. It was fun so the
regrets for missing an ocean day weren't that bad. I know that C.L.
stayed at 14th and was lit up on a 6.2. L.F. made kelly on a 5.9 and
didn't regret that sail size. How about SL? Did the kiters invade?

And the wind. Anybody care to explain the NE wind over the last 3
days? Seems like a seabreeze to me but yesterday put more confusion
than clarity into that idea: stronger in the river and weaker in the
ocean... it just seemed like a seabreeze. What do you think?
 

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Mike R, Dave D, Dave J and Dan S sailed at Scurrah's on 7.5 to 5.5.
Good wind but gusty over the bridge. And yes the kiters did invade.
--- In ecfw@yahoogroups.com, "Clyde" <clydepeggy@h...> wrote:
> OK you forum users, where oh where were you on Wed. afternoon? NE
> winds sent me up to 14th Street only to leave to soon and miss the
> good wind there. Patience. Oh well, ended up at the BRR and sailed
> powered to over on a 6.7 in really flat water. It was fun so the
> regrets for missing an ocean day weren't that bad. I know that C.L.
> stayed at 14th and was lit up on a 6.2. L.F. made kelly on a 5.9
and
> didn't regret that sail size. How about SL? Did the kiters invade?
>
> And the wind. Anybody care to explain the NE wind over the last 3
> days? Seems like a seabreeze to me but yesterday put more confusion
> than clarity into that idea: stronger in the river and weaker in
the
> ocean... it just seemed like a seabreeze. What do you think?

OK you forum users, where oh where were you on Wed. afternoon? NE
winds sent me up to 14th Street only to leave to soon and miss the
good wind there. Patience. Oh well, ended up at the BRR and sailed
powered to over on a 6.7 in really flat water. It was fun so the
regrets for missing an ocean day weren't that bad. I know that C.L.
stayed at 14th and was lit up on a 6.2. L.F. made kelly on a 5.9 and
didn't regret that sail size. How about SL? Did the kiters invade?

And the wind. Anybody care to explain the NE wind over the last 3
days? Seems like a seabreeze to me but yesterday put more confusion
than clarity into that idea: stronger in the river and weaker in the
ocean... it just seemed like a seabreeze. What do you think?

Left the house at 4:00 with a west wind at Melbourne and a NE wind at
Patrick. Surprise. SL was pretty breezy and NE so decided to stay put
not believing it would last. As time went on I realized that I
probably missed a day in the ocean. Actual wind readings at PAFB were
fairly impressive,so did anyone...?

The trick is to face the fact that a sailor needs float in LW.  Lets
call it bobbing for waves?  Yesterday, I used the Compact Move 115
and a 7.0.  Waves were overhead, probably 1-2 foot over.  Wind was
indeed puffy, something then nearly nothing. Wave rides were
terrific. I sail in all conditions in the ocean enough to feel
comfortable with slogging through the impact zone.  Cross training
for this fairly daunting task is easy.  Freestyle non-planing in the
rivers with a similar setup, or bobbing for smaller waves.  Also,
sailing big winds onshore helps.

John, with big waves already in place what do you think if the wind
is light from the south? Probably around 15 and I assume gusty what
is your guess for the most survivable launch?

Perfect scenarios are rare here in FL.  TD 12 is setting up on the
Gulf while Fabian swell has arrived!  Don't worry, wx men claim
during daylight hours, we will experience west winds.  That's right,
directly offshore.  Lets hope they get the direction, and timing
wrong.  Not like they haven't done that before, right?

TD 12 could deliver the perfect set up. provided the wind is either
NW-N or SE-S for Playalinda.  N or S for Patrick.  NE or SSW for
Cherie  Down Park.  NNW- N or SE - SSW For Ponce Inlet.  This is the
opportunity, provided the wx men are wrong on the timing of these
west winds, for an EPIC wave day or two.  Let us pray...

Seabreezes quite often buck common sense.  I've written off in my
mind days where the H is on either side of us and there may be no
gradient over us here in the middle.  Some of the best thermals
happen then.  Heat up next to the oceans or river makes it happen,
no matter what's going on at the macro scale.  I don't know nearly
enough to explain the why, just the is.  Ever feel like a hostage to
the wind?  That's what makes the sport such a challange, I think.

Yesterday was a clear example of just that.  20ish for 1-2 hours
yesterday  2:15pm or so.  Drove by some foamy action to Cocoa Beach,
just in time for the wind to stop.  Sailed Compact Move 115 and Air
7.8 thru chest high waves anyway.  Caught 8-10 waves mainly out of
the straps, but at least riding something.  Then surfed crappy
crimblers outside and thumpers inside.  High tide scenario.

SW 10-15 on Friday with Fabian swell... hmm.  We'll see.  Thermal
wave session?

In Florida, a high over the Bermuda Island area will reinforce the
thermal wind which will develop from the East.
But sometimes (Early June)a high can develop over the Gulf of Mexico
and will "fight" the East Coast thermal wind.

Anybody catch some usable wind today?

http://www.peakpeak.com/~kb0tvj/states/FL.html

MARINE...SHARPENING RIDGE AXIS TO OUR NORTH WILL INCREASE THE
EASTERLY WINDS TODAY THROUGH SUNDAY. GFS MOS FOR BUOY 009 SHOWS
WINDS INCREASING TO 20 KNOTS FOR MUCH OF SUNDAY. BUT GEOSTROPHIC
APPROXIMATION (AND ETA/NGM) ARE CLOSER TO 15 KNOTS SO WILL LEAN THAT
WAY. NONETHELESS...INCREASING SWELL CONTRIBUTION MAY PRODUCE
COMBINED SEAS OF 6 FT BY SUNDAY SO EXERCISE CAUTION MAY BE NEEDED AS
EARLY AS TONIGHT. GRADIENT BEGINS TO WEAKEN MONDAY WITH FLOW VEERING
TO THE S/SE MIDWEEK WITH LIGHT WINDS.

Wind data junkies check this out:
http://www.peakpeak.com/~kbOtvj/states/FL.html
These sites represent the NOAA volunteer system of weather reporting
for the state of Fl. and if they are working, produce wind updates
every 3 minutes. If you are thinking of a road trip, one of these
stations may provide a great view of current conditions near your
destination.

Iwindsurf .com is considering putting up a wind station appro. 8
miles south of Scurrah's Landing on the west side of the Lagoon. The
thinking here is it will help with forecasting for Sebastian,Valkaria
and SL. It will be FX so it is going to cost $90/year. Anyone who is
interested should post to this forum as 12 people are needed for this
to begin. See you on the water........

Eau Gallie HS   http://aws.com/aws_2001/asp/obsforecast.asp?...

Hold on to your hats as today may produce the best conditions in
quite a while. HST, it still may only make 15 knts. But heh, that
ain't so bad for us!

Yesterday at Scurrah's Landing Mike Rayl showed up about 5:30. After
rigging his Aerotech 12.5 and Starboard X186 he mentioned planing in
the light winds. Chris Lowrie, coming off the water after a session
of light wind freestyling, made the comment "Planing? no way". Mike
answered with "Are you challenging me to plane?". Chris replied "Yes
I challenge you". Mike proceeded out to the water, made a slight
downhaul adjustment and hopped on his board. At that moment a slight
puff enabled him to pop onto a plane and sail planing across the
river, thus proving the old guys can still perform at times. The wind
was light but still enough for about an hour of planing conditions.

check out this site:http://wx.findu.com/ke4ozd-1

Enter the one day interval.

Hi-

I'm definitely interested.  Thanks.

-Tom
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Mike Gebhardt hs Neil Pryde formula rigs for sale, 11, 9.8 and 9
complete. Used very little, e-mail me if interested and I will put
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Mike Gebhardt hs Neil Pryde formula rigs for sale, 11, 9.8 and 9
complete. Used very little, e-mail me if interested and I will put
you in touch.

Sailed Sunday afternoon from my backyard in Eau Gallie.  Wind was great for
my light weight daughter, but the seabreeze could barely lift me on a plan
with my Aerotech 9.6...perhaps I'm carrying too much balast.  I hope
everyone at Calema enjoyed the race!

-Tom
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Subject: [ecfw] Wind


Anyone do some sailing over the weekend or go to Calema's race?
I was unable to sail over the weekend and hoped to sail vicariously.
Mike



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Anyone do some sailing over the weekend or go to Calema's race?
I was unable to sail over the weekend and hoped to sail vicariously.
Mike

Offshore buoys are showing a good wind flow and the NOAA group is
promising a better forecast than last night meaning the wind will
last throughout the day. Early may be the best....see you on the
water.

Ocean temps are still frigid, but the summer duldrumy thunder storm
junk is moving in too early to allow breezes to build.  Lets get
some drier air going already.  Who volunteers to fix it?  I'm going
to the Gorge on the 15th.  Look forward to enjoying the mountains
and getting on some smaller ws stuff (maybe).  Only going for a
week, so the skunk risk is a little sketch.  However, the other "non-
Floridalike" things to do make that risk not so painful.

Tom Ingram, I hope you enjoy whatever board you choose.  BTW, Steve
thinks the bigger Formulas are the way to stay in that the light
wind part of your consideration has the most bearing.  The larger
boards don't give up much top end to the smaller ones.  Dollars to
donuts the Exocet TF 100 has the best mix of benefits in my mind.
But, in all fairness to AHD and Mistral, try 'em all and see.
Again, I'd like to try the hollow AHD and do some head to head
comparisons with it.  Some day, when there is more time, hopefully I
will get a chance.

  Oh yeah, the water is very low at Kelly right now, and the weeds
have their sparse days and their heavy ones.  A real crap shoot.

Rigged the formula stuff for about 1/2 hour and then boom.  Pure 20.
Probably could have been on 6.0 or smaller...  CM115 and 7.0 Charge
is getting as much use, almost, as the big stuff.  Ocean remains
really cold. I like this set up in wx pattern. Daytona folks get the
rain, too bad for them...

FOR TODAY: FLOW WILL CONTINUE
OUT OF THE SW AT THE SURFACE. JUST ABOVE THE BOUNDARY LAYER...
WESTERLY WINDS SHOULD CREATE AN ACTIVE COLLISION WITH EC SEA BREEZE...

John's Theory says an early sw wind sets up for a punchy seabreeze.
So far the theory has proven quite accurate as yesterday was once
again a good day on the water with winds in the 15 to 20 range for 2+
hours: from 3 to 5:30 Scurrah's Landing was working el primo!
Eventually it all closed out going sw but for awhile s/sse winds
lifted my spirits with a great August session. I think Kelly must
have gotten some of this wind as the 5:40 KSC Mesonet showed number
300 at 20 knts. Anyone who can confirm this?

Attended the race this weekend, unfortunately no wind above 5 all
weekend. As usual the remainder of the weekend was excellent, dinner
in St. Augustine and lots of sailing discussions. Shell Point always
has the best races, 2 days of racing, cocktails Sat. nite, a tee
shirt and only $20. I attached a couple of photos of the area.

Could this be the right day for Seabreeze and waves?  I hope so.
It's not been a good summer for the Maui-esque setup that happens on
the SE seabreze scenario that worked so often in the past.
Playalinda has not delivered as well this year for the left foot
forward side to side off like previous years have.  Kelly and
Scurrah's have been the spots.  Better than nothin' I guess.  BTW,
the weeds really came back with a vengence this past weekend at
Kelly.  Formula can power through it more readily than free ride.
Saturday dealt us a big surprize for about an hour I was on a CM115
and a 7.0 Charge about 3ish at Kelly. The weeds were more hideous
with the free ride stuff than I would have thought.

One last note, Sandy Point is blowing out the Exocet L99 Formula
boards for $799 while they last.  Been using one for about a month,
great stick esp. for the $$$!

NEWS #28 01.08.2003 : Living on a Prayer



Now with a perfectly prepared speed course, the Winds at Arinaga
finally returned by late Friday afternoon, raising hopes that the
extension through the weekend will produce the winds and the
direction needed to make history.

Although today's wind direction was not ideal, blowing North-
Northeast at 19 knots mean, Björn Dunkerbeck was able to manage a run
over the 500 meter distance at 41,64 knots average, while Robby Naish
was able to claim his best for the day of 38,48 knots

In any event, the mood at the camp is one of celebration and guarded
optimism.