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Enjoy babe :)

If you don't want to spend any money at all, but have time and patience, you can
do it for just about nothing.  :)

Take a look at my project blog for my ebikes; there's two successful ways I've
done it.   http://electricle.blogspot.com

The first was using two pancake style radiator fan motors, of the axial-flux
permanent-magnet brushed DC type, 4-pole.  Found in a junkyard for (I
think--been a while now) $10.  Those were mounted to a metal plate salvaged from
a rackmount computer device years before (I think it came off the side of the
road in a pile of abandoned stuff, but I don't remember for sure).

Roller skate wheels were mounted on the shafts by bolting thru them to the
aluminum hubs I heated a bit to pull out of the plastic radiator fans.

The plate was mounted on the side of a regular diamond-frame bike so that the
rollers were frictioning against the rear wheel.  I'd originally intended to
make it so a shifter cable would have pulled against a spring loading to push
the motors against the wheel, so I could disconnect them physically when I
wanted to just pedal.  I never did get around to doing that part.

Both motors were powered in parallel by a repaired and modified ScootNGo motor
controller, which ran from 3 old UPS batteries 12V/12Ah, wired in series.  If I
did it now I'd set it up more like the EV drag racers with siamese motors
do--switch them between series and parallel for startup and high speed.



The second way I did it was with old powerchair/wheelchair motors, on a
completely custom bike built from old frames.  It's a lot more complicated, and
the details would change depending on what parts you have and skills and tools
you've got.  But the details are on the project blog, or you can just ask about
specific parts if you have questions.

Oh, and I was going to use a treadmill motor before I got the powerchair motors,
but since the latter already had a reduction gearbox to get it close (120) to
the RPM I wanted (90-100), I skipped the treadmill motor right after I'd just
finished making a fairly final drivetrain for it, and never road tested it. 
Pretty sure it'd've worked, too, and will someday go back and test that.


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i bot two 9 continent front and one rear hubmotor from jason at e-bikekit.com. i
also won  a rear motor in the monthly giveaway, where he gives a free kit away
every month, you only have to sign up to be eligible. so now i have 4 9C, one
goldenmotor, one heinzzmann, a tarn geared hubmotor, and a schwinn stingray
chopper parts chopper with a 350W ananda geared hubmotor, super wide.

i think that is the right address for e-bikekit.com  go there and see if you can
get a good deal and enter his monthly giveaway.

he sometimes advertises closeout deals on hubmotors on the
endless-sphere.com/forum website where we all hang out and they usually get sold
in just a few minutes. if you haven't joined endless-sphere.com/forums then you
should go there right away. best EV and ebike stuff on the net.

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone would like to share the cost of the motors and bataries
you've picked up...

I'm looking to do a retrofit of a bike and wondering where the best place and
least expensive cost for motors and batteries.

I initially though a front wheel hub motor would be best but after looking at
the cyclone web site, am intriged by the chain assist motors -just need to
freewheel the bottom bracket...

How expensive are these motors you folks are installing ??

...rs

First post - Hi all - New to the group and looking at retrofitting a bike that's
been in my shed for the last few years.  Lots of info on the internet (and lots
of garbage).  Deciding I'd like a brushless front wheel hub motor for my 26"
tire and obviously with battery and controller/etc...

Lots of variation in prices - not sure what the best make/manufacture etc
(Crystalyte or others ?9C) - Looking at 400 to 500W but haven't gotten the grasp
of how many Ah my controller should be rated for -

Will still need to do research to get a better grasp of understanding the
electronics but I would ask anyone to give me their opinions regarding best
product/best price/where to buy etc - I've seen price variations anywhere from
$200 - $600 for what I think is very similar products.

I live near London, Ontario - I figure purchasing over the internet would be
simplest.  I appreciate any thoughts, input regarding how I can best proceed
with procuring the necessary parts for this project.

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Hi to all !!   First post.  I'm looking to buy a V-belt drive ring for
a 26 or 24" wheel. Does any one have one for sale, or know where I
could get one. I think I have a clutch with V pully on it.. Thanks..
Bill

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I have a 36v hub motor and controller (don't the current rating). I
used to have a 36v, 7AH SLA battery pack installed. It works fine until
I just upgrade my battery to a 36v, 15AH LiFePO4 battery pack.
Everytime when I push the throttle to the maximum, the motor runs about
5 seconds then stops. In order to make it run again, I have to turn the
power key off then on again.

I wonder is this because my controller is designed for 7AH battery
only, not the 15AH? Does this make sense?

It all depends on the $$ YA WANT TO SPEND.Hub motors are pretty much
plug and go.Batteries you have a vast choice price. I use UPS
batteries for way cheap.






--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "teristab" <teristab@...> wrote:
>
> Is there anyone who has step by step instructions for making an e-bike
> with who could share? I'm desprate at this point.
>

Is there anyone who has step by step instructions for making an e-bike
with who could share? I'm desprate at this point.

I'm new here so a bit bout me and my wheels.I'm in Vancouver bc.Been
Driving an e-bike for a few years. my latest is a 500 watt brushless
golden motor on a motorino frame (see pics).Now before ya'll go
crapping on the golden hub it's cheap and the last 1 put together
lasted almost 2 years.this bike cost me $300 (cdn) $225 for
motor,controller and throttle.$75 to rebuild 2 pacs of expired never
used power source batteries. I am slowly building a trailer to cover
with solar panels.

Jim, I have the 500 cyclone kit,,  what kit did you buy , I was
thinking about ordering one of the 1000 watt kits from Tiawan

Did it take 2 months to arive ?

I looked at the 1000 watt kit and it does not have a gear
reduction on it , does anyone else have a 1000 watt kit on this form ?
>  Anyone have a user report on the 1000 watt kit ??



--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "jim58ba2000" <jim58ba@...>
wrote:
>
> Almost 2 months since my last post but my cyclone kit finally
arrived
> from overseas. Looks simple enough but didn't come with battries. I
> know that I will need to start with SLA because of the cost, may be
> able to upgrade after the gas savings start to add up but for now
> can't go another several hundred dollars for battries. Any
> recomendations on good SLA batteries to use? I have the 500 Watt
kit
> so I am thinking I will need to run at least a 20AH pack?
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>
> --- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@>
> wrote:
> >
> > hi Jim!
> >
> > I have not had much experience with internal hubs as such, but
the
> newer
> > ones seem to have the same sturdy qualities as the older ones
did.
> I had a
> > 7 speed hub for a while and it seemed to be OK and the same with
a
> 3 speed
> > with an 8 speed cassette on it.  THAT was an interesting wheel!
> Actually I
> > had a pair of them!  a 26 inch and a 20 inch.  Both were quite
> sturdy.
> >
> > Mostly I have used multi speed bikes myself because I have found
> them pretty
> > bulletproof most of the time.  also easy to fix if things do go
> Wahoonie
> > shaped.   the biggest problem with the "10 speed racers" is that
> they were
> > 10 speed racers!  Two things to remember arre that MOST "racing"
> bikes are
> > built lighter and hence more fragile, and that racers are often
> relatively
> > experimental bikes.  a mountain bike will be a much sturdier set
up
> as will
> > a bike intended for more utilitarian use.  I happen to prefer
> sturdy over
> > fast mostly too.
> >
> > Personally my Currie works quite well.  It is off the bike at the
> moment
> > because the charger went TU on me and a friend is fixing it.  but
I
> would
> > suggest looking at the Cyclone motor the 360 or 500 either one
> would be fine
> > I think unless you are more portly than I am! (I weigh 240 more
or
> less!)
> > It is placed in the chain line of a bike or trike and drives the
> chain.  The
> > Stokemonkey does the same thing.  This means that you MUST pedal
> with the
> > motor unless you have a freewheeling crank, and there seems to
have
> been a
> > bit of difficulty with those recently.
> >
> > I have never had difficulty with pedaling when the motor is
running
> honestly
> > though my motor freewheels well so that I don't have to worry
about
> it.   If
> > you can find a used Currie, they are a nice unit too, but they
are
> getting
> > hard to find!
> >
> > mark
> >
> > On 7/4/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com <ebikebuilders%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 7/1/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark: Thanks for the quick response, any recomendations for
> the
> > > best
> > > > > set up? The Currie drive is not one of those hub motors
right?
> > > Have
> > > > > you had any problems riding in the rain?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jim: I have not really ridden in the rain in all honesty,
at
> > > least not
> > > > the way you might think. I have ridden the trike with a
Velokit
> on
> > > it in
> > > > the rain but that hardly counts! the Velokit keeps the rider
dry
> > > and the
> > > > motor only gets a bit of mist from splashing and stuff. the
> > > mountain bike
> > > > is unpleasant to ride in the rain!
> > > >
> > > > The Currie is a motor that bolts onto a 36 spoke X3 wheel so
it
> not
> > > exactly
> > > > a "hub motor" it is a chain drive to an attachment on the
hub. I
> > > have been
> > > > very satisfied with mine. But Currie is no longer importing e-
> > > bike "kits"
> > > > to the USA. EV Deals may have them still, but I don't think
so.
> > > The best
> > > > bet these days in my opinion is the Cyclone which puts the
> motor in
> > > the
> > > > chainline so that you have all the rear wheel gears. Making
the
> > > motor much
> > > > more efficient. That extends the range as well.
> > > >
> > > > mark
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "Human Misery is caused by human expectations." Buddha
> > > >
> > > > Mark Garvey
> > > > Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
> > > >
> > > > Check out the web site at:
> > > > http://www.vine-ave.com
> > > >
> > > > contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
> > > Details at
> > > > www.vine-ave.com
> > > >
> > > > I am a bicycling lifestylist!
> > >
> > > Hi Mark: Riding in the rain didn't seem to bother me much last
> year,
> > > ok I wasn't too excited about slipping & sliding on wet leaves
> last
> > > fall but the rain itself was never a big problem, I was just
> > > wondering if e-bikes have a potential problem with anything
> shorting
> > > out if it gets wet or if the set up is pretty well sealed.
> > >
> > > Powering it through the gears sounds like it would give me a
lot
> more
> > > flexability than a hub motor and if I can peddle along with the
> motor
> > > and not have to choose the motor or me that would be way cool!
I
> may
> > > be dating myself here but when I was a kid I rode an "english
> racer"
> > > with a sturmey-archer 3 speed hub. While my buddies and I were
> hard
> > > on our bikes, with lots of flat tires and bent spokes, that hub
> was
> > > bullit proof. When I got a little older and had "10-speeds" they
> > > didn't seem to hold up as well as the internally geared hubs and
> > > always needed to be fussed with to keep the chain tension right
> and
> > > drivetrain components bent back into alingment. So now I am
> wondering
> > > if a sturmy-archer hub could stand up to the motor. Any
experince
> > > with these?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Human Misery is caused by human expectations."  Buddah
> >
> > Mark  Garvey
> > Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
> >
> > Check out the web site at:
> > http://www.vine-ave.com
> >
> > contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
> Details at
> > www.vine-ave.com
> >
> > I am a bicycling lifestylist!
> >
>

-\HI Mark
  I love my cyclone 500 kit,,  the crank freewheels so I can pedal
when I want and assist when I want,,  it also has a 3 speed hub with
a 8 speed freewheel in the rear,, lots of gears for speed and hill
climbing ..


Regards Brad


> hi Jim!
>
> I have not had much experience with internal hubs as such, but the
newer
> ones seem to have the same sturdy qualities as the older ones did.
I had a
> 7 speed hub for a while and it seemed to be OK and the same with a
3 speed
> with an 8 speed cassette on it.  THAT was an interesting wheel!
Actually I
> had a pair of them!  a 26 inch and a 20 inch.  Both were quite
sturdy.
>
> Mostly I have used multi speed bikes myself because I have found
them pretty
> bulletproof most of the time.  also easy to fix if things do go
Wahoonie
> shaped.   the biggest problem with the "10 speed racers" is that
they were
> 10 speed racers!  Two things to remember arre that MOST "racing"
bikes are
> built lighter and hence more fragile, and that racers are often
relatively
> experimental bikes.  a mountain bike will be a much sturdier set up
as will
> a bike intended for more utilitarian use.  I happen to prefer
sturdy over
> fast mostly too.
>
> Personally my Currie works quite well.  It is off the bike at the
moment
> because the charger went TU on me and a friend is fixing it.  but I
would
> suggest looking at the Cyclone motor the 360 or 500 either one
would be fine
> I think unless you are more portly than I am! (I weigh 240 more or
less!)
> It is placed in the chain line of a bike or trike and drives the
chain.  The
> Stokemonkey does the same thing.  This means that you MUST pedal
with the
> motor unless you have a freewheeling crank, and there seems to have
been a
> bit of difficulty with those recently.
>
> I have never had difficulty with pedaling when the motor is running
honestly
> though my motor freewheels well so that I don't have to worry about
it.   If
> you can find a used Currie, they are a nice unit too, but they are
getting
> hard to find!
>
> mark
>
> On 7/4/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com <ebikebuilders%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/1/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mark: Thanks for the quick response, any recomendations for
the
> > best
> > > > set up? The Currie drive is not one of those hub motors right?
> > Have
> > > > you had any problems riding in the rain?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jim: I have not really ridden in the rain in all honesty, at
> > least not
> > > the way you might think. I have ridden the trike with a Velokit
on
> > it in
> > > the rain but that hardly counts! the Velokit keeps the rider dry
> > and the
> > > motor only gets a bit of mist from splashing and stuff. the
> > mountain bike
> > > is unpleasant to ride in the rain!
> > >
> > > The Currie is a motor that bolts onto a 36 spoke X3 wheel so it
not
> > exactly
> > > a "hub motor" it is a chain drive to an attachment on the hub. I
> > have been
> > > very satisfied with mine. But Currie is no longer importing e-
> > bike "kits"
> > > to the USA. EV Deals may have them still, but I don't think so.
> > The best
> > > bet these days in my opinion is the Cyclone which puts the
motor in
> > the
> > > chainline so that you have all the rear wheel gears. Making the
> > motor much
> > > more efficient. That extends the range as well.
> > >
> > > mark
> > >
> > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Human Misery is caused by human expectations." Buddha
> > >
> > > Mark Garvey
> > > Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
> > >
> > > Check out the web site at:
> > > http://www.vine-ave.com
> > >
> > > contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
> > Details at
> > > www.vine-ave.com
> > >
> > > I am a bicycling lifestylist!
> >
> > Hi Mark: Riding in the rain didn't seem to bother me much last
year,
> > ok I wasn't too excited about slipping & sliding on wet leaves
last
> > fall but the rain itself was never a big problem, I was just
> > wondering if e-bikes have a potential problem with anything
shorting
> > out if it gets wet or if the set up is pretty well sealed.
> >
> > Powering it through the gears sounds like it would give me a lot
more
> > flexability than a hub motor and if I can peddle along with the
motor
> > and not have to choose the motor or me that would be way cool! I
may
> > be dating myself here but when I was a kid I rode an "english
racer"
> > with a sturmey-archer 3 speed hub. While my buddies and I were
hard
> > on our bikes, with lots of flat tires and bent spokes, that hub
was
> > bullit proof. When I got a little older and had "10-speeds" they
> > didn't seem to hold up as well as the internally geared hubs and
> > always needed to be fussed with to keep the chain tension right
and
> > drivetrain components bent back into alingment. So now I am
wondering
> > if a sturmy-archer hub could stand up to the motor. Any experince
> > with these?
> >
> > Jim
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Human Misery is caused by human expectations."  Buddah
>
> Mark  Garvey
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
>
> Check out the web site at:
> http://www.vine-ave.com
>
> contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
Details at
> www.vine-ave.com
>
> I am a bicycling lifestylist!
>

The Cyclone ebike conversion kit is a through the crank kit..
I have one and i like it a lot..

Brad

-- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <danlocks@...> wrote:
>
> Stokemonkey sales are on hold.  I'd buy one for sure, but can't.  I'd
> rather not simply rip off the idea, but the design seems much better
> than other options I've run across.  Are there any other
> through-the-crank conversions around?  Would it be crazy to just strap
> a crystalyte motor into an extracycle (or tandem sans stoker :-), and
> call it MyMonkey (or CrystalMonkey, or CryStoker, or to rip off a rip
> off, TrunkMonkey?)
>
> Dan
>

I think its worth kicking around,,  but I have seen explanations of
motors that have difffernt torque figures with the number of windings
I have a Cyclone 500 watt motor ,, i can keep it in a an rpm that
seems to keep it crisp and make the batteries last longer , I have
lots of gears ,,8 chain gears and 3 hub gears , the motor has a 15-1
gear reduction that keeps the motor spinning pretty fast,,  i know it
means nothing without an amp meter but it really can climb hills and
accelerate pretty good.. I run it at 33 volts,, its rated for 24
volts but is a big improvement over the 24 volts in power..
i often cruise at 25 mph so i use close to the max power all the time
I have gone 35 mph when I pedal like crazy ...
  I think in efect if you draw 100 watts off your batteries you
efectively have a 100 watt motor ,, I kinda see what your saying with
the higher voltage. Someone please correct me if i am wrong but when
you caculate watts you multiply ( amps X volts) so in effect you get
the hp produced  making the change in voltage just changes the amps
used in a givin time,, but not changing the power(watts) produced to
keep the bike going at a givin speed..
Brad  ,,
\\
hummmm what did i just say ,,LOL


-- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <busybee@...> wrote:
>
> Considering the huge difference in power needed to travel on flat
> ground vs climbing hills
> (http://www.alysion.org/ebiketours/power.html) I'm trying to figure
> out how to efficiently produce about 100-150 watts continuous on the
> flats, but still have a sort of overdrive reserve of 500-750 watts
for
> climbing.  While 100 watts through the gears plus pedaling would get
> you over the hill, it would be slow going on the steep ones.
Pulling
> 5 times the amps might make sense if it got you over the hill 4
times
> faster.  I doubt one motor could operated at peak efficiency at 100
> and 500 watts.  Perhaps if the motor could operate on 12-48v and you
> had 4 12v packs that you could reconfigure on the fly into a 12v,
24v,
> and 48v system?
>
> A fairly straight forward approach would be to have one motor
> optimized for the flats and another overdrive motor assisting the
> smaller one as needed--a sort of double assist power system.
>
> So, an idea worth kicking around?
>

Stokemonkey sales are on hold.  I'd buy one for sure, but can't.  I'd
rather not simply rip off the idea, but the design seems much better
than other options I've run across.  Are there any other
through-the-crank conversions around?  Would it be crazy to just strap
a crystalyte motor into an extracycle (or tandem sans stoker :-), and
call it MyMonkey (or CrystalMonkey, or CryStoker, or to rip off a rip
off, TrunkMonkey?)

Dan

I haven't used any SLA batteries, but BB Battery makes some sold by
NYcewheels and others.  Might also want to look into Silicone batteries.


http://nycewheels.com/batteries1.html

Eric

--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "jim58ba2000" <jim58ba@...> wrote:
>
> Almost 2 months since my last post but my cyclone kit finally arrived
> from overseas. Looks simple enough but didn't come with battries. I
> know that I will need to start with SLA because of the cost, may be
> able to upgrade after the gas savings start to add up but for now
> can't go another several hundred dollars for battries. Any
> recomendations on good SLA batteries to use? I have the 500 Watt kit
> so I am thinking I will need to run at least a 20AH pack?
>
> Thanks
> Jim
>

Almost 2 months since my last post but my cyclone kit finally arrived
from overseas. Looks simple enough but didn't come with battries. I
know that I will need to start with SLA because of the cost, may be
able to upgrade after the gas savings start to add up but for now
can't go another several hundred dollars for battries. Any
recomendations on good SLA batteries to use? I have the 500 Watt kit
so I am thinking I will need to run at least a 20AH pack?

Thanks
Jim

--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@...>
wrote:
>
> hi Jim!
>
> I have not had much experience with internal hubs as such, but the
newer
> ones seem to have the same sturdy qualities as the older ones did.
I had a
> 7 speed hub for a while and it seemed to be OK and the same with a
3 speed
> with an 8 speed cassette on it.  THAT was an interesting wheel!
Actually I
> had a pair of them!  a 26 inch and a 20 inch.  Both were quite
sturdy.
>
> Mostly I have used multi speed bikes myself because I have found
them pretty
> bulletproof most of the time.  also easy to fix if things do go
Wahoonie
> shaped.   the biggest problem with the "10 speed racers" is that
they were
> 10 speed racers!  Two things to remember arre that MOST "racing"
bikes are
> built lighter and hence more fragile, and that racers are often
relatively
> experimental bikes.  a mountain bike will be a much sturdier set up
as will
> a bike intended for more utilitarian use.  I happen to prefer
sturdy over
> fast mostly too.
>
> Personally my Currie works quite well.  It is off the bike at the
moment
> because the charger went TU on me and a friend is fixing it.  but I
would
> suggest looking at the Cyclone motor the 360 or 500 either one
would be fine
> I think unless you are more portly than I am! (I weigh 240 more or
less!)
> It is placed in the chain line of a bike or trike and drives the
chain.  The
> Stokemonkey does the same thing.  This means that you MUST pedal
with the
> motor unless you have a freewheeling crank, and there seems to have
been a
> bit of difficulty with those recently.
>
> I have never had difficulty with pedaling when the motor is running
honestly
> though my motor freewheels well so that I don't have to worry about
it.   If
> you can find a used Currie, they are a nice unit too, but they are
getting
> hard to find!
>
> mark
>
> On 7/4/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com <ebikebuilders%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 7/1/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mark: Thanks for the quick response, any recomendations for
the
> > best
> > > > set up? The Currie drive is not one of those hub motors right?
> > Have
> > > > you had any problems riding in the rain?
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Jim: I have not really ridden in the rain in all honesty, at
> > least not
> > > the way you might think. I have ridden the trike with a Velokit
on
> > it in
> > > the rain but that hardly counts! the Velokit keeps the rider dry
> > and the
> > > motor only gets a bit of mist from splashing and stuff. the
> > mountain bike
> > > is unpleasant to ride in the rain!
> > >
> > > The Currie is a motor that bolts onto a 36 spoke X3 wheel so it
not
> > exactly
> > > a "hub motor" it is a chain drive to an attachment on the hub. I
> > have been
> > > very satisfied with mine. But Currie is no longer importing e-
> > bike "kits"
> > > to the USA. EV Deals may have them still, but I don't think so.
> > The best
> > > bet these days in my opinion is the Cyclone which puts the
motor in
> > the
> > > chainline so that you have all the rear wheel gears. Making the
> > motor much
> > > more efficient. That extends the range as well.
> > >
> > > mark
> > >
> > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Human Misery is caused by human expectations." Buddha
> > >
> > > Mark Garvey
> > > Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
> > >
> > > Check out the web site at:
> > > http://www.vine-ave.com
> > >
> > > contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
> > Details at
> > > www.vine-ave.com
> > >
> > > I am a bicycling lifestylist!
> >
> > Hi Mark: Riding in the rain didn't seem to bother me much last
year,
> > ok I wasn't too excited about slipping & sliding on wet leaves
last
> > fall but the rain itself was never a big problem, I was just
> > wondering if e-bikes have a potential problem with anything
shorting
> > out if it gets wet or if the set up is pretty well sealed.
> >
> > Powering it through the gears sounds like it would give me a lot
more
> > flexability than a hub motor and if I can peddle along with the
motor
> > and not have to choose the motor or me that would be way cool! I
may
> > be dating myself here but when I was a kid I rode an "english
racer"
> > with a sturmey-archer 3 speed hub. While my buddies and I were
hard
> > on our bikes, with lots of flat tires and bent spokes, that hub
was
> > bullit proof. When I got a little older and had "10-speeds" they
> > didn't seem to hold up as well as the internally geared hubs and
> > always needed to be fussed with to keep the chain tension right
and
> > drivetrain components bent back into alingment. So now I am
wondering
> > if a sturmy-archer hub could stand up to the motor. Any experince
> > with these?
> >
> > Jim
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Human Misery is caused by human expectations."  Buddah
>
> Mark  Garvey
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
>
> Check out the web site at:
> http://www.vine-ave.com
>
> contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
Details at
> www.vine-ave.com
>
> I am a bicycling lifestylist!
>

--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@...>
wrote:
>
> On 7/1/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Mark: Thanks for the quick response, any recomendations for the
best
> > set up? The Currie drive is not one of those hub motors right?
Have
> > you had any problems riding in the rain?
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Jim:  I have not really ridden in the rain in all honesty, at
least not
> the way you might think.  I have ridden the trike with a Velokit on
it in
> the rain but that hardly counts!  the Velokit keeps the rider dry
and the
> motor only gets a bit of mist from splashing and stuff.  the
mountain bike
> is unpleasant to ride in the rain!
>
> The Currie is a motor that bolts onto a 36 spoke X3 wheel so it not
exactly
> a "hub motor" it is a chain drive to an attachment on the hub.  I
have been
> very satisfied with mine.  But Currie is no longer importing e-
bike "kits"
> to the USA.  EV Deals may have them still, but I don't think so.
The best
> bet these days in my opinion is the Cyclone which puts the motor in
the
> chainline so that you have all the rear wheel gears.  Making the
motor much
> more efficient.  That extends the range as well.
>
> mark
>
> .
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Human Misery is caused by human expectations."  Buddha
>
> Mark  Garvey
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
>
> Check out the web site at:
> http://www.vine-ave.com
>
> contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
Details at
> www.vine-ave.com
>
> I am a bicycling lifestylist!

Hi Mark: Riding in the rain didn't seem to bother me much last year,
ok I wasn't too excited about slipping & sliding on wet leaves last
fall but the rain itself was never a big problem, I was just
wondering if e-bikes have a potential problem with anything shorting
out if it gets wet or if the set up is pretty well sealed.

Powering it through the gears sounds like it would give me a lot more
flexability than a hub motor and if I can peddle along with the motor
and not have to choose the motor or me that would be way cool! I may
be dating myself here but when I was a kid I rode an "english racer"
with a sturmey-archer 3 speed hub. While my buddies and I were hard
on our bikes, with lots of flat tires and bent spokes, that hub was
bullit proof. When I got a little older and had "10-speeds" they
didn't seem to hold up as well as the internally geared hubs and
always needed to be fussed with to keep the chain tension right and
drivetrain components bent back into alingment. So now I am wondering
if a sturmy-archer hub could stand up to the motor. Any experince
with these?

Jim
>

Mark: Thanks for the quick response, any recomendations for the best
set up? The Currie drive is not one of those hub motors right? Have
you had any problems riding in the rain?

Jim

--- In ebikebuilders@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Jim, Much depends on your riding habits.  I have a Currie drive
on my
> mountain bike and have used it on a Recumbent trike too.  i can
easily get
> well over 20 miles on that with the standard 12 ah battery pack.
If you set
> the bike up AS A BIKE with an assist motor, and not an underpowered
electric
> motorcycle, you should be fine!  i have easily ridden 25-30 miles
and still
> had power left.  but then I pedal on the flats, and coast downhill
and pedal
> to help teh motor when I am going uphill too!
>
> mark
>
> On 7/1/07, jim58ba2000 <jim58ba@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Last summer I finally got fed up with the high cost of gas and
started
> > doing my 15mile commute on a 1995 Schwinn Cruiser. Heavy single
speed
> > with just a coaster brake but very cool retro looks. We moved a
couple
> > of months ago and now the commute is about 25 miles each way.
Most of
> > what I have read shows e-bikes only have a range of about 20
miles or
> > so, is there a way to extend this range without excessive cost?
It is
> > pretty hilly here and windy too so I am guessing that even the
claimed
> > 20 mile range would not be something I would see under these
> > conditions. I am conserned that if the bike runs out of juice, I
would
> > too very shortly lugging around all the extra weight of the motor
&
> > battries. Possible to go the distance without spending thousands
of
> > dollars on the set up.
> >
> > Greatful for any information.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Human Misery is caused by human expectations."  Buddah
>
> Mark  Garvey
> Cedar Rapids, Iowa free state!
>
> Check out the web site at:
> http://www.vine-ave.com
>
> contact us to have INVISIBLE INC! appear at your next program!
Details at
> www.vine-ave.com
>
> I am a bicycling lifestylist!
>