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Yup, you're 100% right. I've watched all that as well.

--- virgilunited <virgil_united@...> wrote:

>
> Well I'm glad you managed to miss the last sentence that said this
> is not directed at anyone in particular. Now if you'd like to unwad
> your panties I'd like to make a few points.
>
> Bringing up issues at general membership meetings, especially for
> new unestablished members, it's hard to be heard. I know that this
> particular issue has been brought up several times in meetings. As
> soon as it was mentioned there were 5 people ready to say why it was
> such a bad idea. ALso everytime it was not brought up by one of the
> long-time dixie faithful. In turn it was the long-timers that almost
> attacked the idea(not the person). There is a seems to be a
> sentiment within the club that ideas are only exceptable from the
> chosen few. When the ideas aren't fromt those sources they are
> damned buy those few. This is even the case at the board meeting,
> there are these factors put in place by people who aren't even on
> the board. Now I'm all for being as involved as you care to be but
> at some point there has to be something positive from an individuals
> involvment. Otherwise they might as well not be. now again this is
> not directed at anyone person, so don't try to make it.
>
> My point here is the membership meetings are not always conducive to
> people volunteering their ideas. I've watch pleanty of ideas be shot
> down before the person was even done conveying what they had to say.
> So don't give me any crap about responding to what you typed. It was
> just that, a simple response. I had already planned on bringing up
> the display issue when appropriate. Now is the time, there are more
> people that seem ready for the purchase.
>
> Now one more time for good measure. This nothing personal. They line
> of reasoning that you expressed earlier has just worn thin. It is
> the same school of thought that seems to keep the club from growing.
> I know the site is a factor. But you know what, if we really had our
> stuff together we could overcome the crappy site and still
> retain/gain members. Your right time is the best thing to donate.
> Time on the weekend is even better. Unfortunatly I work saturdays
> and race everywhere I can on Sundays. So I don't have anovewhelming
> amount to donate, before you chastise me for it. But I don't look
> down on anyone who has that same lacking.
>
> I'm getting long winded here sorry. I could continue with my point
> but I'll stop hoping you can see this side of it. If not we can
> discuss it in person or on the phone. I think we are in agreement on
> some issues here though. Thanks for reading ;)
>
>
> --- In dixieautocrosser@yahoogroups.com, Chris Yearwood
> <go_speed_go@y...> wrote:
> > First timers who don't return do it for 2 reasons:
> > Horrible surface and a long drive. I've spoken to many people who
> were
> > regulars in Tallahassee, attended one event in Bainbirdge, then
> never came
> > back. All of them gave those 2 reasons. If we had a crappy
> surface that
> > was close to town or a great surface that was an hour away, we
> wouldn't
> > have lost nearly the amount of attendance. We were averaging 50+
> entrants
> > the last year in Tallahassee.
> >
> > That said, we can't fix the pavement, but we can get more entrants
> by
> > canvassing the local colleges, etc. All it takes is time.
> Something I
> > have very little to spare, otherwise I'd ran for the board again.
> If
> > you've got it, use it.
> >
> > Being a board member, you should be pointing your assedness at
> your fellow
> > board members. If you can convince them that's what the club
> needs to do,
> > they'll do it. Nobody wanted to move on a laptop and scoring
> system until
> > Sandy kept pushing for it. It was discussed for over a year
> before then.
> > All it took was one voice loud enough and the TIME to
> > research/find/purchase all the parts.
> >
> > This topic has reminded me of the 2nd things I thought should stay
> off
> > this discussion group:
> > 1. Bitching about course design/events.
> > 2. Bitching about anything that should be brought up at a
> membership
> > meeting.
> >
> > If you're not willing to open your mouth in front of people who
> can do
> > something about it, then don't bother with those who can't.
> >
> > Funny, I thought stuff like this would take longer to happen.
> >
> > --- virgilunited <virgil_united@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm gonna be an ass here, not intentionaly but I can feel it
> coming.
> > > The self insured excuse is wearing thin. WE want to pretend lie
> were a
> > > big well organized club. Well we need to acctually act like it
> and
> > > stop talking about it. A display is one of the things that
> woyuld
> > > help. There is expendable cash available. It may not be quite
> enough
> > > for a display at this very moment, but if we continue to gain
> like
> > > this last month we will be in good shape very soon. This is
> something
> > > that can take us one more step to being the club most of us
> think we
> > > already are. Hell Dothan(wiregrass) has a display and to listen
> to
> > > everyone they are so podunk they shouldn't even be able to hold
> there
> > > own events. Now I know that I wasn't there when the trailer got
> stolen
> > > so I can't possible understand. However I was at the last board
> > > meeting when it was brought up that there was enough money to
> consider
> > > investing some. I know this was not the sort of investment
> thought,
> > > but this can be seen as an investment in the we can acctually
> look
> > > like we know what we are doing and have the first timers come
> back and
> > > run(read spend more money) with us. Let the flaming begin and
> this is
> > > directed an no one particular person.
> > >
> > > --- In dixieautocrosser@yahoogroups.com, Chris Yearwood
> > > <go_speed_go@y...> wrote:
> > > > We haven't bought one yet because we're self insured (no
> insurance).
> > > > If the trailer and all it's contents were stolen (again), the
> > > minimum
> > > > replacement cost would be ~$7-8000. When the bank balance is
> closer
> > > to
> > > > $11K, a large scoring display would be possible.
> > > >
> > > > --- Timmi and Cindy <ricebiker@h...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a lovely meeting late evening. the mood was set and
> the
> > > > > conversation was on. Seems we got somthing accomplished, but
> I
> > > will
> > > > > have to read the minutes again to remember what.
> > > > >
> > > > > While I was in Jacksonville at the divisionals, I was a
> wonderful
> > > piece
> > > > > of work called a timer. It is a display item that sets in an
> area
> > > so
> > > > > that you can read your time after you cross the finish.
> Diane
> > > Austin
> > > > > said she was going to bring it up at the meeting in hopes
> that we
> > > would
> > > > > look into getting one. I understand this has been brought up
> > > before,
> > > > > but no one can remember why it wasn't done.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought I would bring it up on here and see if any of you
> have
> > > an
> > > > > idea why we don't have one and if you think it would be a
> good
> > > idea to
> > > > > get one.
> > > > >
> > > > > thoughts, sceems, plans, dreams????
> > > > >
> > > > > Timmi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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