Well I'm glad you managed to miss the last sentence that said this
is not directed at anyone in particular. Now if you'd like to unwad
your panties I'd like to make a few points.

Bringing up issues at general membership meetings, especially for
new unestablished members, it's hard to be heard. I know that this
particular issue has been brought up several times in meetings. As
soon as it was mentioned there were 5 people ready to say why it was
such a bad idea. ALso everytime it was not brought up by one of the
long-time dixie faithful. In turn it was the long-timers that almost
attacked the idea(not the person). There is a seems to be a
sentiment within the club that ideas are only exceptable from the
chosen few. When the ideas aren't fromt those sources they are
damned buy those few. This is even the case at the board meeting,
there are these factors put in place by people who aren't even on
the board. Now I'm all for being as involved as you care to be but
at some point there has to be something positive from an individuals
involvment. Otherwise they might as well not be. now again this is
not directed at anyone person, so don't try to make it.

My point here is the membership meetings are not always conducive to
people volunteering their ideas. I've watch pleanty of ideas be shot
down before the person was even done conveying what they had to say.
So don't give me any crap about responding to what you typed. It was
just that, a simple response. I had already planned on bringing up
the display issue when appropriate. Now is the time, there are more
people that seem ready for the purchase.

Now one more time for good measure. This nothing personal. They line
of reasoning that you expressed earlier has just worn thin. It is
the same school of thought that seems to keep the club from growing.
I know the site is a factor. But you know what, if we really had our
stuff together we could overcome the crappy site and still
retain/gain members. Your right time is the best thing to donate.
Time on the weekend is even better. Unfortunatly I work saturdays
and race everywhere I can on Sundays. So I don't have anovewhelming
amount to donate, before you chastise me for it. But I don't look
down on anyone who has that same lacking.

I'm getting long winded here sorry. I could continue with my point
but I'll stop hoping you can see this side of it. If not we can
discuss it in person or on the phone. I think we are in agreement on
some issues here though. Thanks for reading ;)


--- In dixieautocrosser@yahoogroups.com, Chris Yearwood
<go_speed_go@y...> wrote:
> First timers who don't return do it for 2 reasons:
> Horrible surface and a long drive. I've spoken to many people who
were
> regulars in Tallahassee, attended one event in Bainbirdge, then
never came
> back. All of them gave those 2 reasons. If we had a crappy
surface that
> was close to town or a great surface that was an hour away, we
wouldn't
> have lost nearly the amount of attendance. We were averaging 50+
entrants
> the last year in Tallahassee.
>
> That said, we can't fix the pavement, but we can get more entrants
by
> canvassing the local colleges, etc. All it takes is time.
Something I
> have very little to spare, otherwise I'd ran for the board again.
If
> you've got it, use it.
>
> Being a board member, you should be pointing your assedness at
your fellow
> board members. If you can convince them that's what the club
needs to do,
> they'll do it. Nobody wanted to move on a laptop and scoring
system until
> Sandy kept pushing for it. It was discussed for over a year
before then.
> All it took was one voice loud enough and the TIME to
> research/find/purchase all the parts.
>
> This topic has reminded me of the 2nd things I thought should stay
off
> this discussion group:
> 1. Bitching about course design/events.
> 2. Bitching about anything that should be brought up at a
membership
> meeting.
>
> If you're not willing to open your mouth in front of people who
can do
> something about it, then don't bother with those who can't.
>
> Funny, I thought stuff like this would take longer to happen.
>
> --- virgilunited <virgil_united@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm gonna be an ass here, not intentionaly but I can feel it
coming.
> > The self insured excuse is wearing thin. WE want to pretend lie
were a
> > big well organized club. Well we need to acctually act like it
and
> > stop talking about it. A display is one of the things that
woyuld
> > help. There is expendable cash available. It may not be quite
enough
> > for a display at this very moment, but if we continue to gain
like
> > this last month we will be in good shape very soon. This is
something
> > that can take us one more step to being the club most of us
think we
> > already are. Hell Dothan(wiregrass) has a display and to listen
to
> > everyone they are so podunk they shouldn't even be able to hold
there
> > own events. Now I know that I wasn't there when the trailer got
stolen
> > so I can't possible understand. However I was at the last board
> > meeting when it was brought up that there was enough money to
consider
> > investing some. I know this was not the sort of investment
thought,
> > but this can be seen as an investment in the we can acctually
look
> > like we know what we are doing and have the first timers come
back and
> > run(read spend more money) with us. Let the flaming begin and
this is
> > directed an no one particular person.
> >
> > --- In dixieautocrosser@yahoogroups.com, Chris Yearwood
> > <go_speed_go@y...> wrote:
> > > We haven't bought one yet because we're self insured (no
insurance).
> > > If the trailer and all it's contents were stolen (again), the
> > minimum
> > > replacement cost would be ~$7-8000. When the bank balance is
closer
> > to
> > > $11K, a large scoring display would be possible.
> > >
> > > --- Timmi and Cindy <ricebiker@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We have a lovely meeting late evening. the mood was set and
the
> > > > conversation was on. Seems we got somthing accomplished, but
I
> > will
> > > > have to read the minutes again to remember what.
> > > >
> > > > While I was in Jacksonville at the divisionals, I was a
wonderful
> > piece
> > > > of work called a timer. It is a display item that sets in an
area
> > so
> > > > that you can read your time after you cross the finish.
Diane
> > Austin
> > > > said she was going to bring it up at the meeting in hopes
that we
> > would
> > > > look into getting one. I understand this has been brought up
> > before,
> > > > but no one can remember why it wasn't done.
> > > >
> > > > I thought I would bring it up on here and see if any of you
have
> > an
> > > > idea why we don't have one and if you think it would be a
good
> > idea to
> > > > get one.
> > > >
> > > > thoughts, sceems, plans, dreams????
> > > >
> > > > Timmi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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