I've got a Model 15-2 with 6 inch and 8 inch barrels.  Though it
groups nicely it shoots way left - to the point that I have the sights
adjusted almost all the way to the right.  I have read in various
places that some of these revolvers had QC problems that can be fixed
by a competent and well equiped gunsmith.  Does anyone have any
experience or suggestions regarding this problem?

Hi

Anyone that nows how to get a factory narrow trigger for the 15-2

Kind regards
Tom

I have found Ebay to be a good supplier of DW parts. An 8" shroud just
sold there, I did bid onit, but felt the selling price of nearly $80 to
on the high side. Others are sure to pop up.


--- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, laremm@a... wrote:
> I need a new shroud for the 8 inch barrel. Anyone carry it?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi

Anyone having an extra 6" VH blue shroud ?

Im tunning one of my 15-2's for PPC and I need
a heavy shroud for that. I have one normal
for anyone willing to trade.

Kind regards
Tomas

I need a new shroud for the 8 inch barrel. Anyone carry it?


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Greetings everyone,
I've been looking for this group for a long time. Glad to have found
you all. I'm a rabid DW wheel man and am looking for my first DW
1911.
A while ago I purchased a VL12 barrel for my DW 357 model 15. I had
hoped that it would make a great target barrel, but it doesn't shoot
DEWC w/ W231 worth a damn. I have been trying out 158 gr FP's with
H110 and it seems to like those better. With a twist rate of 1 /
18.75 I don't believe it likes slow but rather medium loads
traveling at a high velocity. My guess is that this barrel was
probably made for silhoutte shooting and not paper punching. Can
anyone give me any insight into this reloading project. I'd
appreciate it.
Glad to be here.

stephen b

Thanks for the Warm welcome. I called Mitchells Mausers and they said
that they had no such product... odd.


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wrote:
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>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Ron Rubenack
> Date: 01/11/05 13:39:38
> To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com; no_reply@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DAN WESSON] Just joined
>
> Frank,
> Welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy the group. I know people who have
never
> heard of Dan Wesson and people who have several. I don't think I
have ever
> run up against someone who has only one. Must be something to this
worth
> pondering. Oh, well, again Welcome. DW has been trying to downsize
and
> concentrate on making only the firearms that are making them some
money. Can
> t blame them for that. It would be a shame if they stop making the
small
> frame though. I know that they have had reasonable success with
their new
> line of 1911s, because they are still hard to find. As for the
Mitchell
> Valkyr revolver, there is a company located in Southern California
named
> Mitchell's Mausers. This company started by importing a ton of
Eastern
> European rifles (M-48). This company has expanded their product
line to
> include remanufactured Lugers and P-38 in presentation grade. They
also cut
> a deal to have Dan Wesson private label revolvers for them. I
assume the
> quality is exactly the same as the DW product. I know here in the
PRK, Dan
> Wesson did not want to go through the hassle and cost to get their
1911
> models "approved" by the state because they did not think the sales
would
> justify the expense. However, Mitchell did step up to the plate and
the
> Mitchell version of the Dan Wesson 1911 is now approved in
Kalifornia. Three
> cheers for Mitchell's. I am saving my pennies and will be buying a
Mitchell
> 1911 next. If you can get a good deal on a Mitchell labeled Dan
Wesson
> pistol or revolver, grab it. It is hard to go wrong with a DW, no
matter
> what name is on it. Just my $0.02 worth.
> PapaRon
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: pinetor
> Date: 01/11/05 12:13:35
> To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DAN WESSON] Just joined
>
>
> Just joined the group.
>
> I own a 1986 DW Pistol Pac V15 ( vent not heavy)
> This is my 3rd DW.
> From reading your list it seems that DW will discontinue the Small
> frame line (which includes mine). Could I get a second on that? Also
> I was looking a the january Shooting Times "gun guide" and they
> showed a a Mitchel Valkyr that looks just like my DW, small frame.
> Did DW sell it( the gun rights)? (page 72, 3rd gun down). No web
> presence of the above mentioned gun maker. Also the DW site has a
> DW/SW for sale 1 of 6, which has the rear ( thumb) release. Not sure
> I would want it myself.
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From: Ron Rubenack
Date: 01/11/05 13:39:38
To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com; no_reply@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DAN WESSON] Just joined

Frank,
Welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy the group. I know people who have never
heard of Dan Wesson and people who have several. I don't think I have ever
run up against someone who has only one. Must be something to this worth
pondering. Oh, well, again Welcome. DW has been trying to downsize and
concentrate on making only the firearms that are making them some money. Can
t blame them for that. It would be a shame if they stop making the small
frame though. I know that they have had reasonable success with their new
line of 1911s, because they are still hard to find. As for the Mitchell
Valkyr revolver, there is a company located in Southern California named
Mitchell's Mausers. This company started by importing a ton of Eastern
European rifles (M-48). This company has expanded their product line to
include remanufactured Lugers and P-38 in presentation grade. They also cut
a deal to have Dan Wesson private label revolvers for them. I assume the
quality is exactly the same as the DW product. I know here in the PRK, Dan
Wesson did not want to go through the hassle and cost to get their 1911
models "approved" by the state because they did not think the sales would
justify the expense. However, Mitchell did step up to the plate and the
Mitchell version of the Dan Wesson 1911 is now approved in Kalifornia. Three
cheers for Mitchell's. I am saving my pennies and will be buying a Mitchell
1911 next. If you can get a good deal on a Mitchell labeled Dan Wesson
pistol or revolver, grab it. It is hard to go wrong with a DW, no matter
what name is on it. Just my $0.02 worth.
PapaRon

-------Original Message-------

From: pinetor
Date: 01/11/05 12:13:35
To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DAN WESSON] Just joined


Just joined the group.

I own a 1986 DW Pistol Pac V15 ( vent not heavy)
This is my 3rd DW.
From reading your list it seems that DW will discontinue the Small
frame line (which includes mine). Could I get a second on that? Also
I was looking a the january Shooting Times "gun guide" and they
showed a a Mitchel Valkyr that looks just like my DW, small frame.
Did DW sell it( the gun rights)? (page 72, 3rd gun down). No web
presence of the above mentioned gun maker. Also the DW site has a
DW/SW for sale 1 of 6, which has the rear ( thumb) release. Not sure
I would want it myself.


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Just joined the group.

I own a 1986 DW Pistol Pac V15 ( vent not heavy)
This is my 3rd DW.
From reading your list it seems that DW will discontinue the Small
frame line (which includes mine). Could I get a second on that? Also
I was looking a the january Shooting Times "gun guide" and they
showed a a Mitchel Valkyr that looks just like my DW, small frame.
Did DW sell it( the gun rights)? (page 72, 3rd gun down). No web
presence of the above mentioned gun maker. Also the DW site has a
DW/SW for sale 1 of 6, which has the rear ( thumb) release. Not sure
I would want it myself.


Frank

Thanks for the info,

   I have only loaded the 270 gr. at 1500fps. with a cronigraph and am having
good results and have not tride any smaller bullets.

   If you happen to locate any of your previous load data for 240gr or larger
please email me and thanks again.
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I haven't been shooting my 445 just lately so I would have to go dig
for my 445 loads.  But I would stay away from the 200 grain bullet
for anything but light loads for two reasons.

One, if you push it really fast it will shed velocity rapidly and at
any real distance the 240 grain might have more velocity.

Two, the SuperMags were originally conceived as a way to push heavy
bullets at the velocities of medium weight bullets in the standard
magnum cartridges.  In other words, the 445 should push a 300 grain
bullet at around the velocity a 44 mag pushes a 240 grain bullet.  I
don't use anything lighter than 240 grains in my 445.

The SuperMags do not do so well pushing light bullets at hyper
velocities.  They will do it, but at the risk of erosion.  The
powder used has a bearing on this, some being better than others as
far as erosion is concerned.  It was the light bullet at hyper
velocity with the wrong powder in the factory load that got the 357
Maximum a bad reputation it didn't really deserve.  The 357 SuperMag
shooters didn't have this problem as they were using heavier bullets
to do what was intended.

This problem does not apply in single shot pistols with no cylinder
gap.

The Dan Wesson 357 SuperMag is actually chambered for the 357
SuperMag cartrdige not withstanding it's being marked 357 Maximum.
The 357 SuperMag has a longer OAL than the Maximum which allows more
powder room with heavy bullets.




--- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, "vconstruc" <vconstruc@y...> wrote:
>
>   Hy!
>
>   I am looking for some good load data for my Danwesson 445 super
mag
> for the 200 gr., 240 gr. and the 270 gr. gold dot. for hunting.
The
> load data I have is in my Hornady book but is not what I am
looking
> for because it has been proven to be slow velcity compared to the
> capibility of the 445 super mag.
>
>   If some one could give some feed back on where I could obtain
this
> load data I would be greatfull.
>
>   Thanks  Dan





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I haven't been shooting my 445 just lately so I would have to go dig
for my 445 loads.  But I would stay away from the 200 grain bullet
for anything but light loads for two reasons.

One, if you push it really fast it will shed velocity rapidly and at
any real distance the 240 grain might have more velocity.

Two, the SuperMags were originally conceived as a way to push heavy
bullets at the velocities of medium weight bullets in the standard
magnum cartridges.  In other words, the 445 should push a 300 grain
bullet at around the velocity a 44 mag pushes a 240 grain bullet.  I
don't use anything lighter than 240 grains in my 445.

The SuperMags do not do so well pushing light bullets at hyper
velocities.  They will do it, but at the risk of erosion.  The
powder used has a bearing on this, some being better than others as
far as erosion is concerned.  It was the light bullet at hyper
velocity with the wrong powder in the factory load that got the 357
Maximum a bad reputation it didn't really deserve.  The 357 SuperMag
shooters didn't have this problem as they were using heavier bullets
to do what was intended.

This problem does not apply in single shot pistols with no cylinder
gap.

The Dan Wesson 357 SuperMag is actually chambered for the 357
SuperMag cartrdige not withstanding it's being marked 357 Maximum.
The 357 SuperMag has a longer OAL than the Maximum which allows more
powder room with heavy bullets.




--- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, "vconstruc" <vconstruc@y...> wrote:
>
>   Hy!
>
>   I am looking for some good load data for my Danwesson 445 super
mag
> for the 200 gr., 240 gr. and the 270 gr. gold dot. for hunting.
The
> load data I have is in my Hornady book but is not what I am
looking
> for because it has been proven to be slow velcity compared to the
> capibility of the 445 super mag.
>
>   If some one could give some feed back on where I could obtain
this
> load data I would be greatfull.
>
>   Thanks  Dan

I won a .357 and have ordered the extra barrels. Never had a problem, they even
asked if I wanted my name on the side of them.

Sorry you had a bad time with them.

--- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, c b <dw445supermag@y...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of poor service, I have gotten the short end of the stick
with Dan Wesson three times over the course of one year.  The gun I
am speaking of was a new 445 stainless supermag.  For starters, the
gun itself made two trips to Norwich to fix the same problem.  Like
you, I suffered the same aggressive rudeness over the phone and
missed delivery deadlines.  I should have gotten the point they
weren't interested in building a reliable product or doing business
with me.  But like an idiot I believed these were just mishaps and in
January 2003 I ordered a 10 inch barrel and shroud ($330).  I was
told my barrel would be at my door in seven to ten business days.
Five weeks later--long enough for me to have forgotten I even ordered
anything--the barrel arrived unwrapped in an oversized cardboard
FedEx box severely scratched and dented.    To add insult to injury,
the barrel was machined improperly and did not fit.  It was then my
responsibility to pay for return shipping so they could
>  take another two weeks to repair what they had done.
>
>   I understand your frustrations in dealing with factorys because
you are the least of their worries, and they have recieved their
money. And that is why I do my own gunsmithing, and have friends with
machines to do the above and beond.  But if you don't mind, I'm stuck
with a delima of my own. I can't find any good load data for my 445
super mag. because the load data I do have is in my Honady book and
frankley it sucks and lacks the willpower to sail my bullets.
   Thanks Dan
> Consequently I can no longer stand the sight of the gun and plan to
sell it for half of its value.  I do not need Dan Wesson.  Dan Wesson
needs customers like me…however I plan to take my business elsewhere
from now on.
>
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Hy!

   I am looking for some good load data for my Danwesson 445 super mag
for the 200 gr., 240 gr. and the 270 gr. gold dot. for hunting.  The
load data I have is in my Hornady book but is not what I am looking
for because it has been proven to be slow velcity compared to the
capibility of the 445 super mag.

   If some one could give some feed back on where I could obtain this
load data I would be greatfull.

   Thanks  Dan

Gentlemen,

Thanks for those of you that have returned to this forum.  My long
deployment to Afganistan left a gap for the ugly spam that you
recieved to be unchecked.  I hope that in the future you will be
able to use this forum again to share your love of Dan Wessons
products.

Is it as hard for others has it is here in be back water of NY to
get a Dan Wesson Revolver?  I am about ready to become a dealer or
drive to the plant in pick one up from their new shop.  I love their
1911's but it is harder to get the revolvers the company started
with then it is to get those 1911's.

Anyone interested in Military or police type equipment can check out
my new website, www.desertsystms.com.  Hopefully you can find
something you would like.  It should be live for purchases by the
15th of Oct, perhaps sooner.

I am also looking for some one to help as a moderator, since my
company is taking a lot of my time.

Thanks again for your time,

Robert Clements

Hi All

Anyone now about a book describing all Dan Wesson
Modells ?

have found one 15-2 in 38 special and I didn't even
now that there where revolvers made in this caliber
from Dan wesson.

Kind regards
Thomas Svensson
Sweden


  --- Thomas Svensson <aw93se@...> skrev:

---------------------------------
Hi

regular by the caliber and frame sice

Thomas
Sweden

  --- kc0hh <kc0hh@...> skrev:

---------------------------------
Hi All,

   How can I tell what model revolver I have? I bought
it many years
ago. It is blued, made in Monson, Mass and is in the
282,000 serial
range but has no model number. I have had it since
about 1980 or 1981
if I remember right.

Thanks.
Rick


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regular by the caliber and frame sice

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   How can I tell what model revolver I have? I bought
it many years
ago. It is blued, made in Monson, Mass and is in the
282,000 serial
range but has no model number. I have had it since
about 1980 or 1981
if I remember right.

Thanks.
Rick


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Hi All,

   How can I tell what model revolver I have? I bought it many years
ago. It is blued, made in Monson, Mass and is in the 282,000 serial
range but has no model number. I have had it since about 1980 or 1981
if I remember right.

Thanks.
Rick

I have dealt with DW on parts and they are great, call them or e-mail them. They
are very responsive.

I have a 715H in .357/.38. It has become unreliable. Sometimes it
fires, sometimes it doesn't. The primer is struck off-center. I don't
remember if that was always the case. One person who looked at it
said that the crane was bent. I'm hoping I can get DW to service it.
If not does anyone know of a gunsmith who will?

Sorry for all the trash that I found on this forum.  I Just returned
from a long stay in Afghanistan and hadn't checked any of this out.

I will ban all future such off topic filth.

Robert

"Surely there are those who have had positive responses from the company and
examples of where the company has gone out of their way to satisfy a
customer.  Can we hear about some of these?"

I have a .357 I bought back in the early 80's. A couple years ago I wanted
the other barrels, I called (no dealer where I was) They were help full, asked
if I wanted my name engraved on the sides (Or the serial number of the barrel).
Very quicly I recieved each on.

The only bad I can say is the color is not perfect, but I own a revolver with
4 barrles that fit all kinds of needs. I wish I could buy a pistol pack
today, I'd buy another fast.


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This kind of talk concerns me however as I am a dealer for Dan Wesson and this
does not bode well for the company.  I receive a lot of gun magazines as many of
you do and there is always a letter to the editor championing the service of one
of the gun makers and what a great job they did for the writer.  Where is it for
Dan Wesson.  Surely there are those who have had positive responses from the
company and examples of where the company has gone out of their way to satisfy a
customer.  Can we hear about some of these?

Wayne
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Mike Rowles
   To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 3:39 PM
   Subject: Re: [DAN WESSON] big part dissapointment


   Frank,
      Thank you, couldn't have put it better myself but I hesitate to get
   on my horse since I sell DWs and "the customer is always right" does
   normally carry some weight.
      There are always people who have problems with guns and service etc.
   If they do, go some where else.  Keep the childishness to yourself.
   Everyone has their favorites and their slam dunks.  That is why there
   is more than one manufacturer out there.........just no wheel guns any
   more accurate than a DAN.

   Mr. DW


   fwarren@... wrote:

   >On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 04:16 AM, i_maus wrote:
   >
   >Lots of snipped crap which has been deleted as it was not worth reading.
   >
   >You be done with DW.  That's fine with me.  Customers like you they
   >don't need, I don't need, nobody needs.  What you think you are
   >achieving is beyond me but whatever it is, you have to be without a
   >doubt the most puerile and ugliest overgrown child I've yet met.
   >
   >Just as you were entitled to come on here and spew your bilge, I've now
   >spewed some of mine.  Since you're "done with" us anyway, don't let the
   >door hit you in your ass on the way out.
   >
   >Frank
   >
   >"The righteous man has nothing to fear neither in life nor in death,
   >and the Gods will not forsake him."  - Socrates
   >
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Thanks, Mike.  I put up with this guy so far with considerable
impatience.  Things don't always work right.  But this is a user group,
not a manufacturer web site.

I can't speak for anyone else here but there is more than enough
ugliness in the world without some malicious clown coming here to cover
us in more.

The sound you now hear is that of imaus being dropped into my killfile.

The people to discuss the problems with were the service folks at DW.
But, no, he couldn't do that.  He couldn't try to iron out a few
wrinkles - exceedingly common when doing business.  The conclusion as
to his character and his sanity are too obvious.

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 01:39 PM, Mike Rowles wrote:

> Frank,
>    Thank you, couldn't have put it better myself but I hesitate to get
> on my horse since I sell DWs and "the customer is always right" does
> normally carry some weight.
>    There are always people who have problems with guns and service etc.
> If they do, go some where else.  Keep the childishness to yourself.
> Everyone has their favorites and their slam dunks.  That is why there
> is more than one manufacturer out there.........just no wheel guns any
> more accurate than a DAN.
>
> Mr. DW
>
>
> fwarren@... wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 04:16 AM, i_maus wrote:
> >
> >Lots of snipped crap which has been deleted as it was not worth
> reading.
> >
> >You be done with DW.  That's fine with me.  Customers like you they
> >don't need, I don't need, nobody needs.  What you think you are
> >achieving is beyond me but whatever it is, you have to be without a
> >doubt the most puerile and ugliest overgrown child I've yet met.
> >
> >Just as you were entitled to come on here and spew your bilge, I've
> now
> >spewed some of mine.  Since you're "done with" us anyway, don't let
> the
> >door hit you in your ass on the way out.
> >
> >Frank
> >
> >"The righteous man has nothing to fear neither in life nor in death,
> >and the Gods will not forsake him."  - Socrates
> >
> >
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> >
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Frank,
    Thank you, couldn't have put it better myself but I hesitate to get
on my horse since I sell DWs and "the customer is always right" does
normally carry some weight.
    There are always people who have problems with guns and service etc.
  If they do, go some where else.  Keep the childishness to yourself.
  Everyone has their favorites and their slam dunks.  That is why there
is more than one manufacturer out there.........just no wheel guns any
more accurate than a DAN.

Mr. DW


fwarren@... wrote:

>On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 04:16 AM, i_maus wrote:
>
>Lots of snipped crap which has been deleted as it was not worth reading.
>
>You be done with DW.  That's fine with me.  Customers like you they
>don't need, I don't need, nobody needs.  What you think you are
>achieving is beyond me but whatever it is, you have to be without a
>doubt the most puerile and ugliest overgrown child I've yet met.
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>Just as you were entitled to come on here and spew your bilge, I've now
>spewed some of mine.  Since you're "done with" us anyway, don't let the
>door hit you in your ass on the way out.
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>Frank
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>and the Gods will not forsake him."  - Socrates
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On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 04:16 AM, i_maus wrote:

Lots of snipped crap which has been deleted as it was not worth reading.

You be done with DW.  That's fine with me.  Customers like you they
don't need, I don't need, nobody needs.  What you think you are
achieving is beyond me but whatever it is, you have to be without a
doubt the most puerile and ugliest overgrown child I've yet met.

Just as you were entitled to come on here and spew your bilge, I've now
spewed some of mine.  Since you're "done with" us anyway, don't let the
door hit you in your ass on the way out.

Frank

"The righteous man has nothing to fear neither in life nor in death,
and the Gods will not forsake him."  - Socrates


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welp i got the part finally,talk about dissapointed.1st off its an mim
part,not machined like my origanal one.

2nd off its out of spec. ie: the bolt that raises up into the ogive on
the cylinder is too damn long on its shank from the pin.

3rd it sits on its pin backed up by the spring,she sits forward
approximatley 1/16" of an inch.

4rth i am still with an unsuable,unsafe gun i cannot sell now unless
for parts.

5th i am now done with dw for good and theyre product line,sorry folks
thats how it goes along with theyre service.

6th if anyone has a machined steel bolt part #37 please let me know,i
will not buy another out of spec bolt.as it was i didnt suspect the
problem until after i had worked the bolt lip and get the pistol in time,

7th come late next week i am calling the dw company c.e.o. and giving
him this website and  the complaints posted along with the womans
nasty attitude towards customers of the dan wesson line when questioned.

8th and yes i am quite pissed folks as i sit here looking at a nice
accurate boat anchor of which is not useable or safe as the bolthead
still sits forward in the cylinder ogive and not seating as it should
creating a loose sloppy cylinder.nice going folks,i place your company
in the same with the rest of the 3rd world cheap gun makers at over
inflated prices.

9th i am calling the better buisness bereau and the fraud unit on
you,i have the envolope stamped usps which was mailed for 49 cents,i
have the invoice which says shipping method fedex,i paid for overnight
and you screwed me for the last time.....bob serva i am pissed.

to boot i am calling my credit card company and have them investigate
the fraud as well as recind the order payment.you will never take me
again.nice way to treat your customers.

Speaking of poor service, I have gotten the short end of the stick with Dan
Wesson three times over the course of one year.  The gun I am speaking of was a
new 445 stainless supermag.  For starters, the gun itself made two trips to
Norwich to fix the same problem.  Like you, I suffered the same aggressive
rudeness over the phone and missed delivery deadlines.  I should have gotten the
point they weren’t interested in building a reliable product or doing business
with me.  But like an idiot I believed these were just mishaps and in January
2003 I ordered a 10 inch barrel and shroud ($330).  I was told my barrel would
be at my door in seven to ten business days.  Five weeks later--long enough for
me to have forgotten I even ordered anything--the barrel arrived unwrapped in an
oversized cardboard FedEx box severely scratched and dented.    To add insult to
injury, the barrel was machined improperly and did not fit.  It was then my
responsibility to pay for return shipping so they could
  take another two weeks to repair what they had done.


Consequently I can no longer stand the sight of the gun and plan to sell it for
half of its value.  I do not need Dan Wesson.  Dan Wesson needs customers like
me…however I plan to take my business elsewhere from now on.


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For Sale:  very low mileage 15-2V pistol pac.  V for vent rib.  not the heavy
barrel set.  condition is excellent.  case, 2 grips, sight inserts, buckle and
patch.

s/n in 87xxx range. 2-1/2", 4-1/4", 6" and 8" barrels.

pictures available.  asking $400 plus shipping to your FFL.  I'll absorb FFL fee
at my end.

kpgordon










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Sorry to hear about the small frames.  I have 2 15-2V6" and 1 15-2VH-8" from the
original Dan Wesson factory which has never been issued.  I purchased these in
1979 and they have been in my safe.  Now selling them if anyone is interested. 
They have not been offered for sale until recently. All are unhandled or turned
and still in the original boxwith all paperwork.  The distributors invoice to me
is available for copying.

W. Guesner
Foxfire Trading Company, LLC
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: thundergod29
   To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:16 PM
   Subject: [DAN WESSON] Re: .357


   Aslo whats the future for the current .357 small frame?
   > >
   > >


   They are selling like Lemonde in the hottest part of Hell, from
   what I gather.
   Basically, in a depressed economy, the two biggest sellers in
   my neck of the woods remain snub .357 carry peices and .45
   autos for enthusiasts.....
   To be honest, I carry a five shot .357 J frame myself and
   generally leave the heavy iron behind.


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