For a short time I did consider purchasing additional
barrel/shroud sets for my AC but decided not to.
Since there is no provision for a rear sight, it is
apparent the AC and PPC were intended for sight rails
or scope mounts only.
I have not been able to find any information as to
weather or not the guns left DW with DAO actions,
bobbed hammers and cylinders machined to accept moon
clips. My assumption is they did.
I did communicate via email with Keith Lawton
(Production Manager) at Dan Wesson Arms (CZUSA). I
found him to be friendly and very helpful,
unfortunately he had no information to offer and had
not herd of the Action Cup model. Apparently all the
arms production information was lost or not transfered
to CZ.
In the link below is an add on Gunbroker.com. This
gun has been re-listed at least one time. The DW in
the picture is a model 8, not a model 15 as is stated.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=61710124
Regards,
Wayne
--- tracemyers <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I appreciate the information on the chamfered
> cylinder. I am only semi
> familiar with the concept of moon clips from seeing
> them in used
> during some minor action shooting. I put the single
> action hammer on
> the gun but have not gotten rid of any parts, I am
> interested in
> options, not changing from the original
> configuration. Speaking of
> original configuration, I have been looking at the
> rules for ppc
> shooting to find the reasons for the dao hammer.
> Almost all, but not
> all rounds have to be fired from double action, but
> the final set can
> be fired single action if my research is correct,
> this leads me to
> believe that the person who had this gun before me
> modified it with a
> hammer from an Action Cup gun as they all seem to
> require dao. I also
> have pictures of one other PPC gun almost exactly
> like mine and it has
> a single action hammer. Can anyone help me figure
> out which
> configuration is stock?
>
> I am not currently interested in trading the gun as
> I am trying to
> make a full set. I would like the best of all
> worlds, a very unique
> PPC gun with the ability to use all of the other
> barrel lengths and
> shrouds as well.
>
> As for the question of sights, it has no rear sight
> as the entire
> sight bar slides off with the shroud so I will have
> to use an
> aftermarket sight bar with all of the ribbed
> barrels.
>
> --- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, Wayne DeLack
> <wdelack@...> wrote:
> >
> > My Action Cup is based on the model 708, which is
> .38
> > Special only. The frame and cylinder appear
> nearly
> > identical to my model 15. The model 8/708 did not
> > have an adjustable rear sight and my AC (frame)
> has no
> > rear sight at all. I could probably re-chamber
> the
> > gun for .38/.357 by replacing the cylinder. My
> desire
> > is to keep the gun original. I have the model 15
> for
> > .357 anyway.
> >
> > My understanding is the AC was made available in
> 1992
> > but I am not sure if this when the gun was
> actually
> > manufactured, as this is right during the period
> when
> > DW changed ownership.
> >
> > The heavy barrel shroud slides off just like any
> other
> > DW. I cannot find any information for barrel
> lengths
> > other than 6" as I believe this was the regulation
> > length.
> >
> >
> > Wayne
> >
> >
> > --- drclem <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Trace,
> > >
> > > With out the privlage of handling the pistol, I
> > > beleive the
> > > differance you see in the cylinder is the
> camfered
> > > chambers. The camfered chambers basicly speed
> > > reloading when using
> > > Speed loaders by taking the "edge" off of the
> > > chambers. With my
> > > first DW I some times found the casings would
> hang
> > > up on the edge
> > > and blow a reload during a match. My current
> pistol
> > > is slated for
> > > camfering at Cylinder & Slide, and no speed
> loaders
> > > are not
> > > required. I am not familure with such thing as a
> > > .38/357 moon clip.
> > >
> > > The little data that I have places the Action
> Cup
> > > and PPC in
> > > production during the late 80's early 90's. The
> PPC
> > > was made
> > > in .38/357 in both Stainless and Blued. Does the
> > > Aristocrat Sight
> > > slide off with the barrel? If so, what sort of
> sight
> > > do you have on
> > > the back end?
> > >
> > > Not to offend, but I hate to see this rather
> rare
> > > pistol is taken
> > > out of the original configuration. I would be
> > > interested in swapping
> > > you my blued Model 15 with 2" (Norwich) and 4"
> (MA)
> > > barrels w/ heavy
> > > shrouds, 2 holsters for your pistol only
> w/original
> > > hammer, you keep
> > > the 6" barrel.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > -- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, tracemyers
> > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello again, I have posted a couple of new
> > > pictures of my fledgling
> > > > collection. I have a couple of new additions,
> a
> > > new 6" barrel and
> > > > shroud for the .357 PPC and a few tools. As
> you
> > > can see, it is a
> > > six
> > > > shot, and I replaced the DAO hammer with a
> single
> > > action hammer. I
> > > am
> > > > in the market for 2", 4", and 8" heavy shroud
> > > barrels for the .357
> > > and
> > > > for 2" and 4" heavy shroud barrels for the
> > > stainless .44. I
> > > recently
> > > > purchased a stainless 8" barrel and shroud for
> the
> > > .44 which will
> > > be
> > > > in pictures soon.
> > > >
> > > > Wayne, how much do you know about the action
> cup
> > > and ppc pistols?
> > > What
> > > > caliber is yours. What calibers were they made
> in.
> > > I would love to
> > > > replace mine with a stainless version but not
> > > willing to lose
> > > the .357
> > > > power. I just ran across this one at a friends
> > > pawn shop and
> > > picked it> up but I do not have any real
> information
> > > on the gun as
> > > of now. I
> > > > would like to know when it was manufactured,
> what
> > > it came with and
> > > > anything else you can think of. I have been
> > > looking at the cylinder
> > > > and it is a little different than the other
> > > cylinders I have looked
> > > > at, it may be set up for moon clips but not
> sure.
> > > If it is, do I
> > > need
> > > > to always use them?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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