Hi Guys
had huge issues with the cylinder revolving yesterday at the range - after about
200 rounds fired, the cylinder started to lock up under double action on 2 of
the cylinders only - he other ones remained relatively the same as at the start
of the day.
Thinking it was the teflon powder, I have today cleaned and lubed using an oil
based teflon - havs made a bit of difference, but I can still feel the
resistance on two of the cylinders on double action. Any thoughts on what might
be the cause???
Driving me nuts - and I have no idea as to the cause.
Any help appreciated.
Regards
John
--- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com, "David Bensey" <bensey@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the info. I found this online:
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> http://www.spurlocktools.com/id39.htm
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> It is for piano actions, apparently. I bet it is the equivalent of the
> Hoppe's stuff at a lower price. I think I might give it a try.
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> From: danwesson@yahoogroups.com [mailto:danwesson@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of johncharleshunter
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:14 PM
> To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DAN WESSON] Re: Dan Wesson purchase in Australia
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> I use a HOPPE'S product, just called Powdered Teflon, comes from Coatesville
> PA 19320.
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> South Australia is a very dry dusty environment, and over the years I have
> found the teflon powder keep all my rifles, pistols and shotguns working
> better for longer - oil based lubricants attract and hold the airborne dust,
> causing a gritty feel when working a bolt, closing an over/under or, as I
> found when I cleaned the Dan Wesson on the weekend, cycling a pistol.
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> I actuallu dipped the entire pistol in B3 Solvent and swirled in around a
> bit. By the time I have finished, the solvent had a reddish brown
> discolouration to it, which ultimately settled to the bottom of the dish I
> was using. It was like a fine silt when pubbed between my fingers.
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> I then got another dish of clean solvent, took the mechanism apart, and
> washed each piece separately - again, but to a much lesser extent, then was
> a fine silt that settled to the bottom of the dish.
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> I then thoroughly dried all components before reassembly. I liberally
> squirted all friction points, posts etc with the powdered teflon using the
> very fine nozzle attached, as I reassembled the action.Unlike oil etc, I
> dont think you can overdo the teflon, as the excess powder just falls out
> the pottom of the action.
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> Once assembled I shook and blew excess powder away (came out the bottom
> where the trigger exists), dry fired etc until no more residual powder was
> apparent.
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> The difference was amazing. Will fire it over the coming month, maybe put
> 500 rounds through it before cleaning again, and will do the same exercise
> using the solvent to see if there is a siginificant difference in the amount
> of silt at the bottom of the pan. I don't expect there will be, but will
> post to this forum for your information if you like.
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> --- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "David Bensey" <bensey@> wrote:
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> > What is this powdered Teflon?
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> > From: danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf
> > Of johncharleshunter
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:25 AM
> > To: danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [DAN WESSON] Re: Dan Wesson purchase in Australia
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> > Good evening Gents - please note I am sending this to DWF and this group -
> > seems a few of you are members to both,, and I have had great help from
> both
> > groups / forums.
> >
> > Took your advice Dusty, actually stripped the whole thing down, degreased,
> > and reassembled with a powdered teflon as lubrication. Has significantly
> > reduced the resistance, and the stacking effect is actually pleasant ¨C
> can
> > stop right on the point of hammer fall and hold ¨C just squeeze off for
> the
> > final little bit. The entire movement is now smooth and increasing ¨C no
> > more ¡°stages of resistance¡±.
> >
> > It actually feels like a totally different trigger ¨C cheapest trigger job
> > I've ever had, and the single action is even better than it was before.
> >
> > A couple of questions ¨C does anyone have any experience of projectile
> > weight and profile that go particularly well in a 6¡å barrel? Would be
> > pleased for any information I can get hold of.
> >
> > I'm currently using lead coated projectiles due to cost and the fact that
> I
> > am only shooting on the firing range at this time. A link to the
> projectile
> > manufacturer site would be handy if you do have it, as I qouldn't expect
> > plain cast lead to be imported from USA, so will check the profile.
> > I'm using Australian made ADI powder AP70N pushing 128gr round nose wad
> > cutter proj, and am getting reasonable results, but want to work on
> getting
> > the load and accuracy up as far as I can. I have heard that 158gr is the
> ¡±
> > best weight¡± from a couple f sources, so let me know what you think.
> >
> > Would be interested in a blue 4¡å barrel and shroud, an inlet grip ready
> to
> > shape, and a 357 barrel removal tool if anyone has one.
> > Since the major clean, cannot believe how good the 15/2 feels. 'I am
> > definately now a DW convert.
> >
> > For those interested in how long it took to get the firearm purchase
> > approval, I am happy to say that firearms branch had the approval back in
> my
> > letter box within 8 days ¨C hence my shooting and maintenance work over
> the
> > weekend.
> >
> > Thanks to all for your advice and help.
> >
> > Cheers
> > John Hunter
> > --- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "pinetor" <pinetor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Been following your thread for a bit.. didn't chime in as you seemed to
> be
> > getting pretty good advice. I am on my 3rd DW revolver ( two .357 and a
> > .22). Actually the only type pistol I have ever owned. I think the most
> > pleasant times I have had shooting the gun is when others shoot it. My (at
> > the time 15yo) loves to throw out how she out-shot me with it. My then 9yo
> > son also has shot it. Then last year in Texas.. a big (I do mean BIG)
> texan
> > shot it and wanted to know where he could buy one. Of course there is my
> one
> > and only trophy from a police style competition.. which I won even though
> I
> > didn't have holster. I keep that in the living room in case said daughter
> > decides to bring home a fella.
> > >
> > > Pics in the photo section Pines custom DW.
> > >
> > > PS: I keep 1800 rounds in two tool boxes at the foot of my bed. I would
> > keep them out on the porch but someone might take them figuring they was
> > tools.
> > >
> > > I think you will enjoy it.
> > > Pine
> > >
> > > --- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "johncharleshunter" <johncharleshunter@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In danwesson@yahoogroups.com <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:danwesson%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "bde2200" <bensey@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Hi all, thanks one more time for all your advice regarding the DW 15/2
> > that I have been looking to purchase here in Adelaide Australia.
> > > >
> > > > Today I commenced the purchase process. For those of you interested to
> > know the difficulty of purchasing a revolver here in Australia, some
> > pertinent details:
> > > >
> > > > Firstly, I must hold a firearms licence endorsed for the revolver type
> > that I shoot. As I have handguns endorsed on my licence, I can only obtain
> a
> > licence for 12 months at a time, and must be reaccredited by my club each
> > year. Note that I must be a member of a registered, certified club, and
> must
> > compete in three competitions for EACH caliber that I own. If I do that,
> > then I can reapply for my licence each year with an approval chit from my
> > club to get my licence.
> > > >
> > > > Then, when a revolver is identified by me to purchase, I must get
> > another chit from my club endorsing that I am still an active member, and
> > complete a permission to murchase slip to send to firearms branch of our
> > police.
> > > >
> > > > This is attached to the chit from my club, and sent off to firearms.
> > > >
> > > > Usually permission to purchase is granted within 30 days of the
> > application being received by firearms. Once I receive the permission to
> > purchase, I go down to the dealer, and pick up the firearm.
> > > >
> > > > I must present this firearm for registration at a police station
> within
> > 7 or 14 days of picking it up (cant remeber which as I always register it
> on
> > the way home).
> > > >
> > > > Firearm must be secured in a suitable safe bolted to wall or floor,
> > ammunition in a separate lockable storage area.
> > > >
> > > > Police can come and inspect that my storage is as I have told them
> with
> > my licence renewal ( we provide details at licence renewal time)
> > > >
> > > > While this may seem tedious and very time consuming, most of us here
> > seem to have gotten used to it - we now work around the timings etc, and I
> > personally dont find it an inconvenience - probably because I am
> accostomed
> > to it all.
> > > >
> > > > So to the point - a very tidy DW 15/2 should be safely secured in my
> > workshop by the end of July. Will post photos etc once it is home.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Let me say one more thing about the DWs. I bought some Hercules,
> (now
> > Alliant) Blue Dot gunpowder many years ago to reload .357 rounds for my
> > model 15. Unknown to me, the canister was filled with Green Dot powder, a
> > much faster gunpowder. I loaded a few hundred rounds with quantities of
> > powder that would have been safe with Blue Dot, but which were excessive
> > with Green Dot. I knew something was wrong when I tried to reload the
> fired
> > cases and discovered that they had been stretched excessively. I didn't
> have
> > time to figure out the mystery, so I set the rounds aside for years.
> > Recently I pulled the bullets and solved the mystery.
> > > > >
> > > > > This means that I fired two or three hundred rounds of +P++++++ .357
> > ammo in my DW15. The gun appears to be perfect. I have not yet cast the
> > chambers to see if they are stretched. But the gun locks up like new, and
> > fires reliably and accurately. Everything appears to be fine when proper
> > ammo is used.
> > > > >
> > > > > No one should ever knowingly duplicate what I did, but it is nice to
> > know how strong and tough the DWs are.
> > > > >
> > > >
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