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[Dallas Cowboy Fanclub] Re: Vick

I completely disagree with this statement:

"Now obviously atlanta is much happier now to have matt ryan, but at the time i
can count on one hand how many teams didn't wish they had Vick as their QB"

I'm assuming you meant, "at THIS time" and just missed the word, so that's what
I'm going on. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think Vick was very highly
thought of as a starting QB across the league. He showed very little development
as a passer in his career, and also has very, very questionable leadership
qualities. Now, would teams out there still sign him and give him a chance?
Absolutely. But, I don't think there were many teams (if any at all) who were
foaming at the mouth to get a hold of him.

--- In dallascowboyfanclub@yahoogroups.com, ccw_1982 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> to be honest i'm not really sure that he cares that a successful team took a
shot on him if he's not being used to help that team succeed, which i can
completely understand. I never want to see the guy play another down of
football but my personal feelings aside on him as a human being, i can
completely understand how winning anything in philly would feel a bit empty due
to the fact that (currently) he's had no impact on their success. I know i
personally wouldn't enjoy basking in someone else's glory when your entire life
you were always that type of athlete who made major contributions to your teams
success.
>
> and for the record, Vick was the exception to the rule when it comes to "that
type of qb"....he was so incredibly dangerous at QB due to his ability to
suddenly pop off with a 40 yard run that his average arm was a moot point. Now
obviously atlanta is much happier now to have matt ryan, but at the time i can
count on one hand how many teams didn't wish they had Vick as their QB
>
> as far as his ego....if TO can continue to get a job i see no reason why Vick
wont get a legit offer next season. My guess is that philly wasn't the only
team interested but he felt like it was going to be a great situation for him,
yet as it turns out it really hasn't been (although he should've know his
playing time was going to be next to nothing if mcnabb stayed healthy). The
league has seen that the fan base has forgotten his actions and is willing to
accept him back in the league (well i haven't, but i'm starting to feel like the
miority)...my guess is that there will be at least 5 desperate teams willing to
give him a chance as their starting QB, you have Oakland and Washington for sure
and he could possibly have interest from detroit, st louis, tennessee, kansas
city, seattle, tampa bay, carolina, or cleveland all dependent on how desperate
some of these owners are.
>
>
>
> --- In dallascowboyfanclub@yahoogroups.com, "conattila" <conattila@> wrote:
> >
> > He has to be happy tho that a team that has potential to be successful
(playoff team last year) took a chance on him. He should be grateful that he is
able to play at all. He "could" have been banned for life (tho I didn't think
that would have been appropriate). He is a great athlete but like a lot of
these types of QB's - they don't really end up having huge success in the long
term. Heck, I bet that Atlanta is secretly ECSTATIC now that they have Matt
Ryan instead of the superb athlete but enigma that Vick was at QB.
> >
> > Vick might want to think about setting his EGO aside because I don't see any
team really wanting to use him as their starting QB unless they are desperate.
Is Buffalo that desperate?
> >
> > --- In dallascowboyfanclub@yahoogroups.com, ccw_1982 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > which is why he should be effective in the wildcat....he's a lot more
athletic than choice or 90% of the other backs used in the wildcat and can
actually pose a real threat to potentially pass the ball (well at times he can)
> > >
> > > on a side note i just read that he's not happy with how he's being
used....obviously he didn't go so far as to say that directly, but indirectly he
said he's not a wildcat QB and wont be next season
> > >
> > > --- In dallascowboyfanclub@yahoogroups.com, Coop <coop1974a@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just that there is a big difference in being on the field every play and
being able to make things happen and being on the field 1 or 2 plays. I saw a
interview with McNabb last week and he said that Vick is the 2nd or 3rd fastest
guy on the team. 
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, viper_4445 <viper4445@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: viper_4445 <viper4445@>
> > > > Subject: [Dallas Cowboy Fanclub] Re: Vick
> > > > To: dallascowboyfanclub@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 2:00 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So what's your point?
> > > >
> > > > --- In dallascowboyfanclub @yahoogroups. com, Coop <coop1974a@ ..>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From what I've seen this year he only gets in for 2 or 3 plays a
game.if that and the plays that he runs on are designed runs. Most of his yards
normally came from when the pass play broke down.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Mon, 11/9/09, ccw_1982 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ccw_1982 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> > > > > Subject: [Dallas Cowboy Fanclub] Re: Vick
> > > > > To: dallascowboyfanclub @yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Date: Monday, November 9, 2009, 12:21 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > i don't doubt that from a psychological stand point...but as talented
as vick was as a runner i thought he would at the least be semi effective in a
reduced role. I think it goes to show how much training these guys go through
year in and year out to prepare themselves to play on a professional level.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In dallascowboyfanclub @yahoogroups. com, "viper_4445" <viper4445@
..> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think prison affects people more than we even realize. Remember
Jamal Lewis when he came back? Not even close to the same guy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In dallascowboyfanclub @yahoogroups. com, ccw_1982 <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i'm just curious how he went from being one of the most
athletically gifted players in the league to looking like a bum in all of a few
years...i mean i didn't expect him to be the old Vick, but i figured he would
look at least somewhat dangerous
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> > > > > > > --- In dallascowboyfanclub @yahoogroups. com, "viper_4445"
<viper4445@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Do you think he'll go back to prison anytime soon for stealing
money from the Eagles?
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you gotta love it if youre a football fan, and you hear the following comment about your quarterback: "The Saints are forcing Michael Vick to pass, and that's...
Dan
viper_4445
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Sep 26, 2006
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haha, that's great....the saints have officially earned my respect as a good team...
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Sep 26, 2006
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Ooh, pull the out slowly :-) Thanks for the humor pick me up Dan :-) Richard...
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Do you think he'll go back to prison anytime soon for stealing money from the Eagles?...
viper_4445
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i'm just curious how he went from being one of the most athletically gifted players in the league to looking like a bum in all of a few years...i mean i didn't...
ccw_1982
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Nov 9, 2009
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I think prison affects people more than we even realize. Remember Jamal Lewis when he came back? Not even close to the same guy....
viper_4445
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Nov 9, 2009
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Did he even get on the field last night??? ... From: viper_4445 <viper4445@...> Subject: [Dallas Cowboy Fanclub] Re: Vick To:...
Coop
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Nov 9, 2009
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I think 2 plays....
viper_4445
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i don't doubt that from a psychological stand point...but as talented as vick was as a runner i thought he would at the least be semi effective in a reduced...
ccw_1982
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Nov 9, 2009
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From what I've seen this year he only gets in for 2 or 3 plays a game.if that and the plays that he runs on are designed runs. Most of his yards normally came...
Coop
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Nov 9, 2009
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So what's your point?...
viper_4445
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Just that there is a big difference in being on the field every play and being able to make things happen and being on the field 1 or 2 plays. I saw a...
Coop
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Nov 9, 2009
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which is why he should be effective in the wildcat....he's a lot more athletic than choice or 90% of the other backs used in the wildcat and can actually pose...
ccw_1982
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Nov 10, 2009
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He has to be happy tho that a team that has potential to be successful (playoff team last year) took a chance on him. He should be grateful that he is able to...
conattila
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Nov 10, 2009
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to be honest i'm not really sure that he cares that a successful team took a shot on him if he's not being used to help that team succeed, which i can...
ccw_1982
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I guess what I was trying to say was somewhat muddled. I guess I felt that he might be a bit more grateful that he was signed by a team that could allow him...
conattila
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Nov 10, 2009
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well if i were guessing i would say that he's very greatful to be getting an opportunity to play in the NFL...i just think from the sound of things that he...
ccw_1982
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Nov 10, 2009
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For the record...Vick has a cannon for an arm. He just can't hit the broad side of a barn. And I would consider McNabb a pocket passer who can run, not a...
viper_4445
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Nov 10, 2009
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I completely disagree with this statement: "Now obviously atlanta is much happier now to have matt ryan, but at the time i can count on one hand how many teams...
viper_4445
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Nov 10, 2009
3:53 pm

i was referring to 4 or 5 years ago when he was considered a pro bowl caliber and received the biggest contract in league history...at that point in time i...
ccw_1982
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Nov 10, 2009
5:41 pm

Hmm...I'm still not sure. Again, I think he was moreso liked by the fans than by front office people around the league. But...before we get into a long back...
viper_4445
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Nov 10, 2009
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obviously there's no way to say for certain but it appeared as though there was always a lot of hype surrounding him and GM's can just as easily get caught up...
ccw_1982
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i guess i should've gotten to my point which is there are a lot of idiot GM's in sports who for as intelligent as they are can really be morons at times. I...
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So what? Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world. He probably sucks at football. If he was dangerous and effective, he'd be seeing the field more than a few...
viper_4445
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Nov 10, 2009
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you have to admit thought that it would be fun to watch him line up in pads...the DB's would be forced to line 20 yards back. To me the idea of Bolt playing...
ccw_1982
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well i think that he should not play football because he cant control his own decisions. ________________________________ From: Coop <coop1974a@...> To:...
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Nov 17, 2009
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Don't forget he came in 12lbs over weight, and said he's just now getting into "football" shape... ________________________________ From: ccw_1982...
william
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