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Thanks Nic
I've been over to Liverpool by rail myself a few times recently. On one of these I was jammed for hours on St George's Plateau at the behest of my grandson Calum, awaiting a football team carrying some sort of trophy. I took the opportunity of talking with cyclists on the trains, and got the impression like you, that it wasn't a problem. Whether it is at peak times, I wonder ?
Forwarding to Dave Holladay CTC HQ for info.
Regards to all
Roy
----- Original Message -----From: Nic SiddleSent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:29 PMSubject: Re: [cyclomania] Fw: Arriva Conwy Valley Rail Line complaintI've been travelling to Liverpool on the merseyrail train quite a bit recently. There are always people with bikes and there rarely seems to be any problem or fuss from other passengers - quite re-assuring really
Nic
David Robinson wrote:RoyI take my bike on the train regularly and rarely have any problems but I do have to be assertive. Arriva Trains Wales and Merseyrail are normally great with most guards casting aside the 2 bike max rule.Virgin can be more exacting where pre booking is essential. Voyageurs are fine - they can take 4 bikes, hanging from 'meat hooks' and you dont need the help of the guard to get on - knowing which end of the train is the key and you can tell this by looking at the front of the train as it arrives in the station. A horizontal yellow bar on the leading power unit means that the bike area is at the other end of the train.Pendolinos are a pain (fortunatley only two a day pass along the North Wales line.) The trains are long and the guard has to open a door to let you on and off - often fraught with problems.Many years ago I failed to meet the Conway Valley connection so requested the staff to provide a taxi which would accommodate my bike - they did and I was taken through to Blaneau F.The basic problem is that capacity is limited, although last week I was pleased to see that the single units have had some seats taken out doubling the bike carrying from 2 to 4.Nice to hear from you and I hope to make the enquiry next month.The attached letter appeared in the weekly North Wales Pioneer.
As you can see it refers to a most unfortunate experience by a Matt Jones
and Chris Horlock.
I don't know them. Does anyone know who they are?
I would like them to know that a strategy to take this matter further is
under consideration. Chris has articulated well a problem of which we are
all aware. He's gone to the trouble of writing; he and everyone else likely
to fall into this trap deserve our support.
Roy
CTC RTR Denbighshire/Conwy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Spilsbury" <royspilsbury@...>
To: "Dave (CTC) Holladay" <dave.holladay@...>
Cc: <ctc-cymru-committee@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Arriva Conwy Valley Line complaint
>
>
> Greetings Dave
>
> Just come to my attention - complaint in the North Wales Pioneer on 16th
> November (attached). One way or another I think we should make a
response.
> It's a good letter. Any thoughts?
>
> Regards
>
> Roy
>
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