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Take a look at Theriot's ST stats!   Message List  
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[Cubs' Coven] Re: Take a look at Theriot's ST stats!

I would agree that Theriot/Fontenot is the ideal 1-2. I just don't see that
happening, because for whatever reason, Fonty hasn't gotten a sniff there, nor
any whispers of him being put there. I made the Kosuke comment, because it
sounds like Pinella is putting him there - at least to start the season.

As for his stats, I expect him to have pretty close to the same stats as last
year. I don't expect him to be as hot as he was last April, but I don't expect
him to be as dreadful as he was last July-Sep. I think people are downplaying
too much the large change from last season. We see it in the US also. Many
times guys from AA or AAA who get a full time job in the big leagues burn out by
August/September because of the longer season. Well the Japanese season is
about as long as the minor league season. Plus, the other thing to consider is
the travel. Because Japan is small, the longest flight is I believe only 1.5
hours, and most are shorter than that. Throw in the mental exhaustion being in
a foreign land with a foreign language, and a throng of daily media demands and
it is very easy to see how the later into the season it got, the more tired he
became, and the worse he played.

Look, I'm not trying to make excuses per se, but from a realistic perspecitve,
that is one hell of a life and physically draining change. What happened
Theriot's first year he had a full-time gig? He was worthless in September.
Yet, Theriot had the advantage of being in a familiar country and a somewhat
better knowledge of the travel schedule (the Pacific Coast league is vastly
spread out). Why don't we extend the same benefit of the doubt to Fukudome? Is
it because he is making $10 million? That doesn't change the facts of the
situation.

Look, from all accounts, he worked his ass off this offseason to get prepared
for the long grind of the season. He has been through it once now, and has an
interpreter who he is on the same page with. I think a .280 average with a
.350-.360 OBP is a reasonable expectation. Could be higher, could be lower.
Would I put money on it, HELL NO! But if I had to make a guess, that would be
it. I'm willing to give him another shot. I just hope if he starts off cold,
the fans give him a chance to work out of it, just like any other player.




Thu Apr 2, 2009 7:42 pm

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Theriot's ST stats are unreal - even by Arizona standards. 4:1 bb:k ratio. I love the way he plays the game. I wouldn't be surprised if he topped .400 OBP...
Will
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Mar 31, 2009
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I wonder if Bradley can maintain a 1.700 OPS for the entire year... ;) ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Chris Lohroff
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Mar 31, 2009
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Especially if he hits 8th. Although I think we'll see him in the 2 spot again more than Lou is letting on. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
Chris Lohroff
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Mar 31, 2009
5:07 pm

... Even more reason that Theriot should be leading off with Soriano in the #6 or #7 hole. (I think I'd actually prefer Soto in the #6 hole because he'd give...
Socherball
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Apr 1, 2009
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... I really don't see Fukudome getting on base at that pace this year. His OBP in the second half last year was .314 and I haven't seen anything in either ...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 1, 2009
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... Couldn't agree more. Theriot and Fontenot seems so obvious as the best 1-2 combination. I think Piniella has to do something else because the best answer...
Will
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Apr 1, 2009
5:34 pm

I worry more about lee in the 3 hole, then I do Soriano leading off. I love lee, but Hoffpair is the #2 rbi guy in spring. He needs a spot on the field. D ... ...
Dwayne
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Apr 1, 2009
12:03 pm

I agree on Fukodome, but in all fairness, he has been smoking the ball the last three days, and was getting walks when he was not. It would be a huge, awesome...
Dwayne
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Apr 1, 2009
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At this point, anything above .270 from Fukudome is upside as far as I'm concerned... and having Reed Johnson ready to play everyday if Kosuke can't figure it...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 1, 2009
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I guess my point is this... I was perhaps the last one to get off the Fukudome bandwagon last year. I will not be the first one to get back on it. ... ...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 1, 2009
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I like everything about Fukudome...except for his inability to hit fastballs down the middle of the plate. He does everything right...he plays exceptional...
Will
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Apr 1, 2009
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... I think this, since Fukudome could have been considered as a rookie last year treat him like one. He started off hot and then cooled (frozen solid...
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Apr 1, 2009
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First... don't ever tell me or anyone else on this site to shut up. This isn't myspace. Second, feel free to think of Fukudome however you want... he's not a ...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 1, 2009
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and fourth, show me another rookie with a 4 year/$40M contact. Obviously the Cubs don't view him that way either. ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 1, 2009
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... Never been on myspace don't have time for it...guess you do. I know Fukudome's history and now everyone knows you know it too. (Clap, clap, Clap). I am...
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Apr 1, 2009
7:44 pm

... "Kosuke" is Japanese for "I play my ass off in April and rest for the remainder of the season"...
James Hoffa
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Apr 1, 2009
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I would agree that Theriot/Fontenot is the ideal 1-2. I just don't see that happening, because for whatever reason, Fonty hasn't gotten a sniff there, nor any...
Socherball
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Apr 2, 2009
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I don't think anyone has said they weren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt or another shot. My point is that he's on a short leash for me. I'm...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 2, 2009
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I agree with chris. We are paying him a TON of money to be a lackluster hitter with little to no power. We could have spent half as much and got 2 amazing...
sarmendinger
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Apr 4, 2009
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... The amount of money we are paying him right now is irrelevant. It is done. There is nothing we can do about it. Is he overpaid for what he is going to...
Socherball
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Apr 4, 2009
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... Not true. The money issue was brought up in regards to whether or not Fukudome should be treated like a rookie. I used the contract to point out that the...
Chris Lohroff
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Apr 4, 2009
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Shut up? Cant! Llove my Cubs, and the season is about to start! D ... From: S To: cubscoven@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:44 PM Subject:...
Dwayne
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Or the other teams who bid against the Cubs. He is not a rookie, and if anyone asked me, guys like him would not be eligible for ROY. Which makes me wonder. ...
Dwayne
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