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How much leeway do my boys down in Tulsa get? I realize they havent won a
quality game
outside of Fresno on Thursday. Does the fact that their losses to Kansas and
Arkansas were
close help them at all? They deserve to be in and I will be rooting like heck
for them to
make it.

collegerpi@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
> From: "jppalm" <jppalm@...>
> 2. Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
> From: Eric Nemeth <ohpbuck@...>
> 3. Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
> From: sbrock@...
> 4. Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
> From: Brad Steeples <labradford22@...>
> 5. Committee replies
> From: "jppalm" <jppalm@...>
> 6. Re: Committee replies
> From: Brad Steeples <labradford22@...>
> 7. road warriors
> From: "Russell Bercier" <RBercier@...>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:21:04 -0000
> From: "jppalm" <jppalm@...>
> Subject: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
>
> Every year, I put together bracket projections in which I attempt to
> read the mind of the ten-person selection committee and predict what
> the bracket they release will look like. One thing I cannot do is
> duplicate their process. They're ten people who discuss and vote on
> teams and it takes them four days locked in a hotel to do it. I'm one
> guy, so there's not a lot of discussion and the voting doesn't take
> very long. :)
>
> What I would like to do is form a "committee" of ten people to attempt
> to duplicate the process, as best as can reasonably be done. I'm not
> looking for people willing to travel to Indianapolis and lock
> themselves in a hotel room. I am looking for nine other people who
> have frequent, easy access to their e-mail and are willing to spend an
> unknown (but not small) amount of their free time the week of the
> selections helping me duplicate this process online.
>
> I'm going to try to form a group as diverse as the actual committee,
> which has representatives from all across the country and from
> different size schools.
>
> You have to be willing to set aside your biases for or against
> particular teams/players/coaches. You also have to be willing to be
> true to the actual committee's goals and process. Just like each
> committee member, you will represent a team or conference and will be
> disqualified from discussing or voting on that team or conference.
>
> If you would like to do this, send me (jppalm@... - NOT the
> list) a note with the following information.
>
> 1. Your name
> 2. Your age
> 3. Where you live (just your town is fine)
> 4. Where you went to college
> 5. Your favorite team and/or conference
> 6. How much college basketball you watch
> 7. Anything else you consider pertinent
>
> Since I'm trying to form a diverse committee and I'm a Purdue guy, I'm
> not going to be looking for any more Big Ten fans. If this goes well,
> maybe I'll organize but not participate next time.
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:43:35 -0800 (PST)
> From: Eric Nemeth <ohpbuck@...>
> Subject: Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
>
> > Since I'm trying to form a diverse committee and I'm
> > a Purdue guy, I'm
> > not going to be looking for any more Big Ten fans.
>
> DOH!
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:13:29 -0600
> From: sbrock@...
> Subject: Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
>
> I would be interested in being the MVC representative on your "committee" -
> to correctly represent the real committee maybe you should construct it to
> represent the conferences the actual memebrs represent.
>
> Steve Brock
> Age 41
> Springfield, MO
> SMS Grad
> Let's Go Bears!
> Watch 5-7 games a week on the tube - my wife just shakes her head when I do
> something like taping Butler vs. Detroit to watch late at night when I
> should logically not give a rip about those two teams.
> Other things of interest: check out www.letsgobears.com and I run a small
> "office" pool for the tourney with about 150 entries.
>
>
> "jppalm"
> <jppalm@colle To: collegerpi@yahoogroups.com
> gerpi.com> cc:
> Subject: [collegerpi] Looking for
a friend.
> 02/03/02 Actually, 9 friends.
> 02:21 PM
> Please
> respond to
> collegerpi
>
>
>
> Every year, I put together bracket projections in which I attempt to
> read the mind of the ten-person selection committee and predict what
> the bracket they release will look like. One thing I cannot do is
> duplicate their process. They're ten people who discuss and vote on
> teams and it takes them four days locked in a hotel to do it. I'm one
> guy, so there's not a lot of discussion and the voting doesn't take
> very long. :)
>
> What I would like to do is form a "committee" of ten people to attempt
> to duplicate the process, as best as can reasonably be done. I'm not
> looking for people willing to travel to Indianapolis and lock
> themselves in a hotel room. I am looking for nine other people who
> have frequent, easy access to their e-mail and are willing to spend an
> unknown (but not small) amount of their free time the week of the
> selections helping me duplicate this process online.
>
> I'm going to try to form a group as diverse as the actual committee,
> which has representatives from all across the country and from
> different size schools.
>
> You have to be willing to set aside your biases for or against
> particular teams/players/coaches. You also have to be willing to be
> true to the actual committee's goals and process. Just like each
> committee member, you will represent a team or conference and will be
> disqualified from discussing or voting on that team or conference.
>
> If you would like to do this, send me (jppalm@... - NOT the
> list) a note with the following information.
>
> 1. Your name
> 2. Your age
> 3. Where you live (just your town is fine)
> 4. Where you went to college
> 5. Your favorite team and/or conference
> 6. How much college basketball you watch
> 7. Anything else you consider pertinent
>
> Since I'm trying to form a diverse committee and I'm a Purdue guy, I'm
> not going to be looking for any more Big Ten fans. If this goes well,
> maybe I'll organize but not participate next time.
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:19:51 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brad Steeples <labradford22@...>
> Subject: Re: Looking for a friend. Actually, 9 friends.
>
> Jerry,
>
> This sounds like a unique science project that you're
> embarking upon, and as a college basketball nut who's
> just gearing up for March Madness, I'd love to be a
> part of it. Here's the requested info:
>
> 1. Brad W. Steeples
>
> 2. Age 27
>
> 3. Currently reside in Euless, Texas (suburb of Fort
> Worth)
>
> 4. I went to undergrad at the University of Kansas and
> grad school at Southern Methodist University.
>
> 5. I'm a huge Jayhawk fan, and generally root for the
> Big XII conference, although I would be willing to set
> aside these biases and treat all teams objectively.
>
> 6. I watch college hoops at least four or five times a
> week. Basically, whenever I can wrestle the remote
> away from my beautiful wife. And I videotape College
> Hoops Tonight whenever it's on and typically watch it
> at home over my lunch break. Pathetic, I know.
>
> 7. I'm a big sports fan, but I'm also a big math and
> numbers geek, so naturally your collegerpi.com site is
> one of the first sites I visit every morning when I
> get into work. I've been trying to project the
> tournament teams since I was about 10 years old.
> Experience and improved technology have made me better
> at it virtually every year. I think it would be
> interesting to do this "committee" thing and see how
> my opinions are similar or dissimilar from other
> sports nuts around the country. It should make for
> some very interesting dialogue about the merits and
> demerits of various teams.
>
> --- jppalm <jppalm@...> wrote:
> > Every year, I put together bracket projections in
> > which I attempt to
> > read the mind of the ten-person selection committee
> > and predict what
> > the bracket they release will look like. One thing
> > I cannot do is
> > duplicate their process. They're ten people who
> > discuss and vote on
> > teams and it takes them four days locked in a hotel
> > to do it. I'm one
> > guy, so there's not a lot of discussion and the
> > voting doesn't take
> > very long. :)
> >
> > What I would like to do is form a "committee" of ten
> > people to attempt
> > to duplicate the process, as best as can reasonably
> > be done. I'm not
> > looking for people willing to travel to Indianapolis
> > and lock
> > themselves in a hotel room. I am looking for nine
> > other people who
> > have frequent, easy access to their e-mail and are
> > willing to spend an
> > unknown (but not small) amount of their free time
> > the week of the
> > selections helping me duplicate this process online.
> >
> > I'm going to try to form a group as diverse as the
> > actual committee,
> > which has representatives from all across the
> > country and from
> > different size schools.
> >
> > You have to be willing to set aside your biases for
> > or against
> > particular teams/players/coaches. You also have to
> > be willing to be
> > true to the actual committee's goals and process.
> > Just like each
> > committee member, you will represent a team or
> > conference and will be
> > disqualified from discussing or voting on that team
> > or conference.
> >
> > If you would like to do this, send me
> > (jppalm@... - NOT the
> > list) a note with the following information.
> >
> > 1. Your name
> > 2. Your age
> > 3. Where you live (just your town is fine)
> > 4. Where you went to college
> > 5. Your favorite team and/or conference
> > 6. How much college basketball you watch
> > 7. Anything else you consider pertinent
> >
> > Since I'm trying to form a diverse committee and I'm
> > a Purdue guy, I'm
> > not going to be looking for any more Big Ten fans.
> > If this goes well,
> > maybe I'll organize but not participate next time.
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 15:22:24 -0000
> From: "jppalm" <jppalm@...>
> Subject: Committee replies
>
> Gang,
>
> PLEASE do not reply to the group. Send your info to me directly at
> jppalm@...
>
> This requires you to change the address you send your message to if
> you hit "reply"
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:16:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brad Steeples <labradford22@...>
> Subject: Re: Committee replies
>
> Humble apologies to all. I'm accustomed to another
> email system in which "Reply" only sends a reply to
> the sender, whereas "Reply All" sends a reply to the
> sender and all recipients. I should have checked who
> this was going to before I pushed "Send".
>
> My bad...
> Brad
>
> --- jppalm <jppalm@...> wrote:
> > Gang,
> >
> > PLEASE do not reply to the group. Send your info to
> > me directly at
> > jppalm@...
> >
> > This requires you to change the address you send
> > your message to if
> > you hit "reply"
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:23:00 -0600
> From: "Russell Bercier" <RBercier@...>
> Subject: road warriors
>
> I am going to make an arguement as to why a certain
> group of mid-majors should get serious consideration
> for an at-large bid. Supporting my arguement is a
> factor that the RPI does not consider.....Road record.
> Few teams are able to consistently win away from home
> throughout the season. Some teams that have had road
> success are Duke(11-1), Kansas(9-2), Cincinati(9-2),
> USC(8-3), and Gonzaga(9-3). All of those teams are
> ranked....as they should be. They have shown the
> ability to walk into a hostile environment and win
> games. But the list does not stop there. Western
> Kentucky(9-3), Kent St(8-3), Bowling Green(8-3)
> Southern Illinois (11-4), Butler (14-1), Tulsa (8-2),
> and Penn(10-2)have all dominated away from home this
> year and are struggling to get at-large consideration.
> A road record at .700 or better puts these mid-majors
> in pretty good company if you look at the teams I
> named earlier.
> Meanwhile, Illinois (0-5 on the road)remains highly
> ranked, and Minnesota, despite being 1-6 away from
> home, is being spelled out on many mid season
> brackets. Vanderbilt is showing up on some expert
> brackets and they are a meager 3-6 on the road. What
> else can these mid-major schools do to prove
> themselves? These teams are forced to play on the
> road because no major schools will travel to play
> them, they go on to win 70-80% of those games, and
> still may find themselves left out. Hopefully the
> committee will wake up this year and take a closer
> look at these teams. This year, the committee needs
> to scroll down a bit on the RPI,and make the right
> decision. I know that road record is just one factor,
> but it is significant because obviously, nobody plays
> at home in the NCAA Tournament. They need look at all
> the factors, because if they don't, they will be
> selling short some very good basketball teams.
>
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Mon Feb 4, 2002 8:23 pm

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How much leeway do my boys down in Tulsa get? I realize they havent won a quality game outside of Fresno on Thursday. Does the fact that their losses to Kansas...
Matt Josephs
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Feb 4, 2002
8:42 pm

Tulsa is an interesting case. Right now, I'd put them in. An RPI of 36, an overall record of 17-4, and the fact that all 4 of those losses were at least ...
Brad Steeples
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Feb 4, 2002
9:11 pm

tulsa sucks, they lost at home to hawaii, lost to kansas and at home to an avg. road team in ark. Come on, the elite 8 run was 2 years ago and it is time to ...
David Yengoyan
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Feb 4, 2002
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I would rate Tulsa's at-large chances as slim right now. They must win at Hawaii to have any chance. The home losses to Arkansas and Hawaii are troubling,...
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