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Chicago suburban legend

Hey, are you the guy who grew up in a Chicago suburb
and played college basketball. (about 6'7")

If you are I recruited you when I was at the
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point. I think you
ended up going d-1 though.

james
--- Todd Bergmann <tbergma2@...> wrote:
>
> I do know for a fact, the coaches generally do
> their own poll themselves....granted they don't
> research it a ton.
> Now to St. Joes...just got done doing some research
> there.
> 1)Went 26-7 last year...lost BARELY to Stanford in
> Regional semis.
> 2)Only loss is Frank Wilkins, a backup post player
> 3)Marvin O'Conner and Jameer Nelson is a top-flight
> backcourt. O'Conner is a flat out scorer, no other
> way to describe that. Nelson is a coach's PG who
> runs Martelli's system better than anyone else that
> I've seen.
> 4)The top five scorers are all back....that's worth
> something for any team...experience factor is way
> underrated imo.
> 5)Martelli just wins....I've seen him do this
> before, this is by far the most talent he's ever
> had, especially with a signing like Carroll.
> My concerns - not sure about rebounding, but the A10
> isn't exactly a league with a ton of monster
> centers, also they don't have a post offense really.
> That will hurt offense rebounding off midrange
> jumpers probably.
> Overall, this team should be good enough to make to
> the elite 8 or at least sweet 16.
> Are they a traditional top ten, no. Are they good
> enough this year, yes. Should they be top ten
> preseason, maybe...top 15 no doubt.
> Todd
>
> Geoffrey Birchfield <gbirchfield@...>
> wrote: ST.JOE'S IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T
> THINK A LITTLE OVERRATED?...OH
> YEAH, IT'S THE COACHES POLL. "how's this look coach?
> good..ok, thanks"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Bergmann [mailto:tbergma2@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:07 AM
> To: collegerpi@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [collegerpi] RPI V coaches preseason
>
>
>
> SIDs have their own poll.
>
>
> St Joes oughta be a stud program this year, that's
> my expectation. O'Conner
> and Nelson is a great backcourt.
>
>
> Temple - Greer's a natural leader, if I recall, he
> played all but about 30
> minutes total last season, so he'll be key.
>
>
> Xavier should be back in the NCAAs imo..those three
> from the A10
>
>
> Todd
>
>
> Geoffrey Birchfield wrote:
>
>
> coaches don't vote. sid's do.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. Jean Chris [mailto:friars93@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: collegerpi@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [collegerpi] RPI V coaches preseason
>
>
> I don't really think these coaches that vote have a
> clue. Have you looked at the list of schools these
> coaches are from? Most are small D-1 or mid-majors,
> who seem to always vote based on popularity and past
> performance. St. Joe's #10? Give me a break. The
> Big East shoul have a couple more schools in there
> and
> the Big Ten is always over rated if you look at
> their
> post season record as a conference.
>
> --- billvhome@... wrote:
> > Just reviewed the coaches preseaon poll.
> > Naturally the power conferences, Big 10, Big 12,
> Big
> > East,&,not to
> > forget the ACC, dominate the rankings as they did
> > the season ending
> > RPI.
> > the only surprise, if you can call it that, is
> that
> > the A10, has
> > nearly as many teams ranked, as its more
> recognized
> > rival, the Big
> > East (2 v. 3).
> > every one else's opinon?
> >
> >
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Just reviewed the coaches preseaon poll. Naturally the power conferences, Big 10, Big 12, Big East,&,not to forget the ACC, dominate the rankings as they did...
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Nov 2, 2001
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I don't really think these coaches that vote have a clue. Have you looked at the list of schools these coaches are from? Most are small D-1 or mid-majors, ...
St. Jean Chris
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Big 10 overrated? A few years ago? Maybe. Now? Let's see. In the last three years, the Big Ten has taken five (Michigan State 3, Wisconsin 1, Ohio State 1) of...
Scott King
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Nov 2, 2001
5:26 pm

Scott's right. The Big Ten sends so many schools to the big Dance because the whip up on the rest of the country during the year. They do not schedule cushy ...
Rand Natlanta
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Nov 4, 2001
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Well, first off, nobody is voting for conferences, they're voting for teams. As for tournament performance, anyone who thinks the Big Ten is a bad tournament...
Jerry Palm
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Nov 2, 2001
5:31 pm

Not surprised. St. Joe's & Temple both should be really good, and Xavier's not bad either. Big East doesn't have any real heavyweights. A lot of solid clubs,...
Scott King
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since these polls are just speculation, based on what the sportswriters, and/or the coaches have heard. I just looked to see how the coaches felt the "name"...
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coaches don't vote. sid's do. ... From: St. Jean Chris [mailto:friars93@...] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:09 AM To: collegerpi@yahoogroups.com ...
Geoffrey Birchfield
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SIDs have their own poll. St Joes oughta be a stud program this year, that's my expectation. O'Conner and Nelson is a great backcourt. Temple - Greer's a...
Todd Bergmann
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Nov 2, 2001
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ST.JOE'S IS GONNA BE ALRIGHT, BUT YOU DON'T THINK A LITTLE OVERRATED?...OH YEAH, IT'S THE COACHES POLL. "how's this look coach? good..ok, thanks" ... From:...
Geoffrey Birchfield
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I do know for a fact, the coaches generally do their own poll themselves....granted they don't research it a ton. Now to St. Joes...just got done doing some...
Todd Bergmann
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Hey, are you the guy who grew up in a Chicago suburb and played college basketball. (about 6'7") If you are I recruited you when I was at the University of...
James Wilhelmi
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Nov 2, 2001
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no, that wasn't me. I graduated from high school in '71, never played sports. Was a classmate of Larry (Marcus) McCoy who went to UW madison....
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don't take too much from that Stanford loss, they stink the tourney up ... From: Todd Bergmann [mailto:tbergma2@...] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001...
Geoffrey Birchfield
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Nov 2, 2001
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... Why? ... What's an A10? ... Big East (2 v. 3)....
Paul Kislanko
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Nov 3, 2001
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the Atlantic 10 and I went over the coaches poll because I ws interested in how they voted....
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Pre-season rankings are nothing to get all upset about. billvhome@... on 11/02/2001 11:49:06 AM Please respond to collegerpi@yahoogroups.com To:...
Russell Bercier
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Nov 5, 2001
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I'd say the same thing about in-season polls. ... I'm sure Jerry would agree that the preseason polls GENERALY have nothing to do with the "real world" (the...
Jerry Palm
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Nov 5, 2001
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yeah....preseason are just that...what did teams return and then such. Any poll with just 31 people on it is gonna be shaky, especially if some coaches really...
Todd Bergmann
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naturally. preseason polls have less validity than in season polls simply because of their nature. no one has played anyone, so they are even more of a guess....
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