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Re: [collegerpi] Re: Small conference Schools

I agree.

Every year about this time the same argument erupts.
Someone wails about how the world is coming to an end
because mid-major XYZ with an overall record of 21-7
and an RPI of 50-something may not get an at-large bid
while major ABC with an overall record of 17-12 and an
RPI of 30-something may get an at-large.

And every year the committee does (in my opinion,
anyway) a pretty good job, given the circumstances and
vagaries that they are faced with.

And, of course, every year not a minute goes by after
the brackets have been released that the coach of
mid-major XYZ is live nationally on CBS being
interviewed by Greg Gumbel and Billy Packer, telling
the whole world about what a travesty it is that his
boys didn't get a shot.

I'll grant that, every year, there are probably half a
dozen teams that have a legitimate gripe, but guess
what... if any of those half dozen teams was put in
the tournament, there would be another team left out
with a legitimate gripe.

And, of course, Dick Vitale will always argue that a
bunch of teams that didn't get in should have. If we
listened to Dicky V, the tournament would have about
80 teams.


--- jahart8 <jahart8@...> wrote:
> --- In collegerpi@yahoogroups.com, "dd564"
> <dd564@y...> wrote:
> > Big schools advancing, beating small conference
> schools
> > (because they are supposed to)is never talked
> about to
> > the degree of the small school getting an upset
> win.
>
> Of course it's not. People like to talk about the
> unexpected, not
> the expected. That's simply human nature. (Most)
> everyone loves a
> Cinderella story.
>
> Think back to 1999, when Gonzaga made the Elite
> Eight, or 2002, when
> Kent State did. It was an incredibly compelling
> story...maybe, just
> maybe, this is the year that the small school cracks
> the big time
> and reaches the Final Four. Whether or not you
> wanted them to
> succeed, I'm sure you watched those games.
>
> Frankly, I think the committee by and large gets the
> balance right.
> Despite assertions to the contrary, they don't rely
> too heavily on
> any one specific criteria for admission, and, while
> they might drop
> a clanger every once in a while, the at-large teams
> selected usually
> provide entertaining matchups.
>
>
>


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Mon Mar 1, 2004 4:13 pm

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Okay, now let's remember that this IS the year that the committee rewarded the small conferences. Now let's see how the Butlers, So. Illinois, and Gonzaga's...
dd564
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Mar 24, 2003
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... have a team in the final four. Be careful when you say "never/ever". But then again, the moment I mention that Penn from the Ivy League made the Final...
Brian
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Mar 24, 2003
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Indiana St was also in that Final Four (TM), and of course, some of Tarkanian's powerhouse UNLV teams were in the Big West. ... ===== ...
Jerry P. Palm
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Mar 24, 2003
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As a followup, there have only been 24 Final Four (TM) appearances by teams not currently in a major conference, the last of which were the two in 1979, which,...
Jerry P. Palm
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Mar 24, 2003
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Holy cow. We're talking 25 years ago. (Save UNLV). Also, was it even a 64 team tournament at that time. I don't think so. UNLV on the other hand did make...
dd564
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Feb 29, 2004
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... Those specific teams may have lost but two years ago Kent State made a run to the elite 8. The year beofe that, they made the sweet 16. In fact, when was...
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Mar 1, 2004
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Bill Harty
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Mar 1, 2004
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Okay, so every other year or so we get a mid major or small conference at large bubble team to go a couple rounds. Is that what we are looking for? Just...
dd564
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Mar 1, 2004
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I could not diagree more. The SEC, PAC-10 and Big-10 seem to always get 6+ teams in with seeds better than 7. You remeber the good teams that make it, most of...
Danny Cox
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Mar 1, 2004
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... Of course it's not. People like to talk about the unexpected, not the expected. That's simply human nature. (Most) everyone loves a Cinderella story. Think...
jahart8
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Mar 1, 2004
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I agree. Every year about this time the same argument erupts. Someone wails about how the world is coming to an end because mid-major XYZ with an overall...
Brad Steeples
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Mar 1, 2004
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Finally, someone I can agree with. I agree the panel usually does a very good job. I just think it's sad how much these mid-majors complain. Last year was a...
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