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Re: An interesting comparison---> the RPI and the PS R   Message List  
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Re: An interesting comparison---> the RPI and the PSR ratings

--- In collegerpi@yahoogroups.com, Jon Scott <jonpscott@y...> wrote:
> If you were to correlate the NCAA seeds (from the #1 seeds down to
theat-large bids) against the RPI, you will find that while there is
a general correlation, the accuracy is only so-so. You can do the
same analysis for polls (by including the 'also receiving votes')
and other mathematical models and will find varying correlations,
some worse but many better than the RPI.

My reply:
Jerry [Palm, of course] has run these numbers and finds the polls to
be the most accurate predictor of seeding.

> But what is really interesting to me is that if you take an
average of these disparate ways of ranking teams and then correlate
it against the actual NCAA seeds, you will find a very good
correlation.

Inevitably true, none will predict exactly, you just have to figure
out the weighting (which will vary year-to-year, of course).

> The Georgia example is one which points to the power of the RPI,
but there are certainly other examples where a team made the at-
large field with a less than stellar RPI rating. As I said, on
average, it's obvious that there are quite a number of factors which
go into the NCAA's decision making, whether people want to recognize
it or not.

We were just talking on the other list about 2002 Oregon: RPI 33 but
2 seed and went to the elite eight. Conversely Gonzaga who people
thought got screwed last year.

:o) ccf







Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:46 am

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You seem to be operating from the assumption that the RPI is the be-all, end-all when it comes to evaluating teams and picking them for the Big Dance. Year...
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Feb 18, 2004
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In reply to one of Canadianbucko's previous posts, "Evans, Jason (CNN HLN)" wrote the following: 'Teams at the middle and even some at the bottom of those...
Colin R.Wrubleski
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Feb 24, 2004
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... Every year someone interviews someone on the NCAA committee about the [un]importance of the RPI and every year the committee mentions that the RPI is but...
Jon Scott
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Feb 25, 2004
2:22 am

... theat-large bids) against the RPI, you will find that while there is a general correlation, the accuracy is only so-so. You can do the same analysis for...
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Feb 26, 2004
1:54 am

Perhaps Jon's analysis has merit. However, it still seems that the committee places more emphasis on RPI than it says it does. Notice that when a team's...
Colin R.Wrubleski
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Feb 28, 2004
10:56 am

Colin, I see where you're coming from, but at the same time, I would argue that Butler's low RPI was symptomatic of another problem that probably kept Butler...
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Mar 1, 2004
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