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BCS unveils new poll,will start on Sept. 25   Message List  
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Re: [collegebcs] BCS unveils new poll,will start on Sept. 25

Didn't this whole BCS stuff start so that we'd have one National Champion? It
looks like we're back to square one in college football with multiple national
champions and politics. AP obviously got the message once everyone started
referring to USC as back to back National Champs. Why would they need the BCS
champ when they can have their own? Maybe a little competition might actually
bring a playoff.

I'm certainly glad that after testing multiple computers and rankings that
they've finally decided to use the Harris Interactive College Football Poll as
33% of the formula. Without that venerable institution, it would make the BCS
rankings a joke.

The BCS is dying and the major players, ESPN and AP, are pulling out. A playoff
is coming

John Martin
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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:36 PM
Subject: [collegebcs] BCS unveils new poll,will start on Sept. 25


BCS unveils new poll
Harris Poll to replace AP; will start on Sept. 25
Posted: Monday July 11, 2005 3:37PM; Updated: Monday July 11, 2005
3:37PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Bowl Championship Series has a new poll, one
that begins a month into the college football season and will
include former coaches and players, plus media members.

Called the Harris Interactive College Football Poll, it will rank
the top 25 teams on a weekly basis, starting Sept. 25, the BCS said
Monday. Plans call for 114 voters.

The BCS has said it wanted to eliminate preseason polls, which some
believe give highly touted teams an unfair headstart in the rankings.

The new poll replaces The Associated Press poll, which the BCS had
used in its formula for ranking teams since 1998. Last season,
however, the AP told the BCS it could no longer use its media poll.

In addition to the new poll, the BCS will continue to use the USA
Today coaches' poll and a compilation of six computer rankings --
each counting for one-third of a team's grade.

Recently, ESPN pulled out of participating in the coaches poll.

The AP preseason poll will be released Aug. 20, with the first
regular-season poll Sept. 6. The AP national champion will be
crowned after the Rose Bowl on Jan. 4. The coaches will also compile
a preseason ballot.

Last season, Southern California and Oklahoma held the top two spots
in both the AP and coaches' polls in the preseason and kept those
positions throughout undefeated regular seasons.

Auburn, which began the season ranked in the teens in the polls,
went unbeaten but never could pass the Trojans and Sooners. The
Tigers did manage to tie Oklahoma in the AP poll for one week late
in the season.

All three teams finished the regular season unbeaten and USC and
Oklahoma played for the national title in the Orange Bowl. Auburn
went to the Sugar Bowl, finished the season 13-0 and had to settle
for a final ranking of No. 2 behind national champion USC.

Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville said the preseason rankings put his
team at a disadvantage because they had too much ground to make up
in the BCS standings before games were even played.

Harris Interactive Inc., a marketing company hired by the BCS last
month to coordinate the new poll, is in the process of compiling a
panel from 300 possible participants. Voters' names will be made
public and the panel will represent all 11 Division I-A conferences
and independent teams.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...s.ap/index.html






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... new ... regional ... The announcement I saw indicates that it will be 114 members as follows: ten with ties to each of the 11 1A conferences, three to ...
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Didn't this whole BCS stuff start so that we'd have one National Champion? It looks like we're back to square one in college football with multiple national...
John Martin
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... First off, it would solve the issue of split-champions a whole lot easier if everyone stopped worshipping the AP poll. And secondly, you fail to realize...
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...."First off, it would solve the issue of split-champions a whole lot easier if everyone stopped worshipping the AP poll. And secondly, you fail to realize...
Michael Stehlin
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Jul 21, 2005
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... Well, what good is publishing your votes when they don't count for anything? ... Any final competition to break a tie or determine a championship. That is...
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I like my chances of having the best teams selected with 4 or 8 more then 2. 2 teams do not make a playoff. Let's face itno team finishing 9 or 10 has ever...
Michael Stehlin
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... Irrelevant. ... So nobody can call the World Series prior to 1969 a playoff? That doesn't make any sense. ... That's not for you to decide. Unless of...
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Actually yes..the World Series was not'is not a playoff, was never referred to as a playoff. Playoffs, more or less, involve several teams playing off head to...
Michael Stehlin
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... Yeah, the term includes the championship game or series as part of the playoffs regardless of the size of the field. ... I guess if you keep repeating...
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Jul 22, 2005
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... playoff that included all conference champions. << Great idea! I can't wait to see North Texas, which was 0-4 in non-con games including a 65-0 loss to...
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I agree Kevin. I like 8 teams, 6 major conferences, 2 at-large selected by a bball-like commiittee, and have at it. In 45 years of following college football I...
Michael Stehlin
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... You mean to be handed the title with no playoff? I'd say teams 5 through 8 hardly have a claim as well....
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... The point has been utterly missed. I'll play along though. Ideally, division I-A should be about a third smaller than it is right now, because all the Sun...
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... 0-4 in non-con games including a 65-0 loss to Texas, getting a bid over a much more deserving non-champion. << ... though. Ideally, division I-A should be...
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... You'd still get a true champion in such a playoff. It happens in college basketball all the time. There were at least a dozen teams this year that were, as...
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... I have to agree with Coug here with respect to Div I-A being bloated, but I disagree that paring it down will give us a legitimate champion. Take the...
Jeff Imes
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Jul 24, 2005
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... teams ... Actually, how many regular season opponents a team has isn't the right measurement. In the NFL, for istance, the Conference schedules are ...
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... How can you have a "true champion" from a 16-team playoff if you exclude X number of the 16 best teams and give the top-ranked teams what amount to an...
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It also doesn't fly if you include the bowls. They want no part of a full playoff (I've asked) because they know the economics don't work for them. Nobody...
Jerry Palm
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Forget an 8 or 16 team playoff for now. As pointed out, we're a long way away from that due to the bowls not wanting to host these games. Our best bet is a...
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T.V. ratings would be sky high, but what do you think the attendance would be at the semi-finals vs. the BCS title game? Brian Samilian...
Jerry F. Becker
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... I don't know, how can you have a "true champion" from a 64-team playoff if you include X number of the 64 best teams and give the top-ranked teams what...
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#5 did a lot of griping last year, and they had no chance to make a playoff. You can imagine there will be even more griping from #5 if 1-4 made a playoff. ...
Jerry Palm
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... much more deserving two or three-loss team from a power conference is folly. << ... point. << How about discussing a playoff in the context of the real ...
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... What I'm discussing is something more than just a playoff. It's about teams that sit in the cellar of I-A, dilute the talent across the division, and don't...
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... January, after the bowls? << ... early-December. << Let me see if I've got this right: You're going to have playoffs followed by bowl games??? And the...
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... I can't tell if you forgot to read the rest of my post, or if you conveniently forgot reading it. Either way, it seems as though you've ran out of points...
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I agree with Trader Kevin. A 4-team mini-playoff should clearly be the next step. We essentially already have a two-team playoff, which has proven to be...
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... I agree on all those points. At the very least the top four need to be included if the playoffs are to be considered adequate. Therefore, it should be the...
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The best playoff scenario would be the 11 conference champs, plus 5 at-large teams. That's how it's done at eveeyr other level of NCAA football except I-A....
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